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Convincing my mom not to use vegetable oil?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 05, 2012 at 7:55 PM

I'm 19 and living with my parents. I've started buying my own food and eating those for breakfast and lunch. I haven't told them that I'm changing my diet and they haven't really noticed yet, they've just commented that it's unhealthy to eat so many eggs(usually 3 a day). The main issue is the family dinner. Dinners are usually chicken with vegetables and potatoes, chicken curry with white rice, fish or red meat once or twice a week, pizza/pasta once or twice a week. I don't have a problem with the potatoes or white rice since I'm trying to gain weight, and wheat doesn't seem to affect me much. But the thing I'm most worried about is that my mom uses "vegetable oil" for cooking. I just read the back of the bottle and it says "may contain genetically modified soybean oil". I hate that I'm putting this stuff inside my body. Does anyone have any articles or studies I can show her to convince her to stop using this stuff?

C5d2ca4998259d200a48e38847d19f06

on February 07, 2012
at 02:02 PM

http://raypeat.com/articles/nutrition/oils-in-context.shtml http://coolinginflammation.blogspot.com/2009/02/american-heart-association-oks-linoleic.html

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on February 07, 2012
at 01:43 AM

I've successfully used Fat Head as a weapon several times.

6714718e2245e5190017d643a7614157

on February 06, 2012
at 07:16 PM

Here is one more link for you: http://bodyecology.com/articles/benefits_of_real_butter.php

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(20378)

on February 06, 2012
at 07:40 AM

Exactly! Great plan Rakka!

C8ccf1c3cb5d7bca4bdf3060ff6a888f

(15)

on February 06, 2012
at 07:30 AM

Right, I'm not really going to douse everything in fat. The most important thing is I can most of the junk out.

C8ccf1c3cb5d7bca4bdf3060ff6a888f

(15)

on February 06, 2012
at 07:26 AM

Thanks for the links!

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on February 06, 2012
at 05:26 AM

Cooking will be great. Even if the dishes aren't high fat all of the time. At least you can control some of the oil etc...

C8ccf1c3cb5d7bca4bdf3060ff6a888f

(15)

on February 06, 2012
at 12:18 AM

The cooking is a great idea. I actually made a coconut based curry before I heard of paleo and it was pretty fatty. Even though they believe that fat isn't healthy and go for low fat milk and yogurt, they still use butter and cream sometimes, so all our meals aren't necessarily low fat. Unfortunately those meals often contain veg oil and wheat as well. I don't think they would complain at all if I made dinners that happened to be high in fat. They would probably appreciate the help, too.

C8ccf1c3cb5d7bca4bdf3060ff6a888f

(15)

on February 06, 2012
at 12:01 AM

The cooking is a great idea. I actually made a coconut based curry before I heard of paleo and it was pretty fatty. Even though they believe that fat isn't healthy and go for low fat milk and yogurt, they still use butter and cream sometimes, so all our meals aren't necessarily low fat. Unfortunately they usually use veg oil along with those things. I don't think they would complain at all if I made dinners that happened to be high in fat. They would probably appreciate the help, too.

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on February 05, 2012
at 10:21 PM

Actually, the study Jeffrey Smith is talking about in that article has pretty bad epidemiology (small sample sizes that were inbred, always a bad combination). Of course, there are many other "better" studies to look at, but they are less sensationalist (good scientist=bad pr), so if your mom has less of a science background (ie won't break your back for not showing an ideal study), probably don't worry about it. The message is the important part!

Bdf98e5a57befa6f0877f978ba09871c

on February 05, 2012
at 09:52 PM

I second the cooking suggestion. It's a good skill to have, plus you can show your parents something paleoriffic

F4a6fc9f0b701e12cdf2ad5dadaeb2dd

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on February 05, 2012
at 08:43 PM

Wow, I might have to show MY mom this!!!

C8ccf1c3cb5d7bca4bdf3060ff6a888f

(15)

on February 05, 2012
at 08:23 PM

Thanks for you response. They're into the whole "low fat" thing so I don't think I can convince them about paleo. But the problem is I'm eating dinner with them every night, so I'm eating the soybean oil too. I suppose I could stop having dinner with them but that would create other problems. It's difficult to make money or even find a job right now so I will probably be staying at home for another two years or more.

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on February 05, 2012
at 08:21 PM

Thanks for you response. They're into the whole "low fat" thing so I don't think I can convince them about paleo. But the problem is I'm eating dinner with them every night, so I'm eating the soybean oil too. I suppose I could stop having dinner with them but that would create other problems.

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11b7b7ba720a5cd43c74a0ef99a16adb

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on February 06, 2012
at 06:52 PM

Tell her vegetable oils will make her skin wrinkled.

Processed vegetable oils (like canola and corn) are rancid by the time they hit the bottle. Rancid, in this case, just means that the oil has started to oxidize. Oxidized means the oil if full of free radicals, which have been linked to aging (including causing your skin to wrinkle prematurely).

Anti-oxidants counter free radicals cased by oxidized food. The benefits of anti-oxidants to prevent wrinkles is touted far and wide by beauty companies. So, it shouldn't be too hard to explain to your mom that vegetable oil contains the bad oxidants the anti-oxidants fight.

BTW, there is a "how it's made" episode on canola oil. I believe it is on youtube. It shows the entire process, including the chemical extraction, heavy heating, bleaching, and deodorizing. After watching that, it shouldn't be too hard to explain to her why the oil is rancid before it is bottled.

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on February 05, 2012
at 09:35 PM

See if they will switch to light olive oil for cooking. Not ideal but short of coconut oil or butter it is a better choice than vegetable oils. Also let tem know you want to start cooking dinner. To get the hang of it. :-)

C8ccf1c3cb5d7bca4bdf3060ff6a888f

(15)

on February 06, 2012
at 12:18 AM

The cooking is a great idea. I actually made a coconut based curry before I heard of paleo and it was pretty fatty. Even though they believe that fat isn't healthy and go for low fat milk and yogurt, they still use butter and cream sometimes, so all our meals aren't necessarily low fat. Unfortunately those meals often contain veg oil and wheat as well. I don't think they would complain at all if I made dinners that happened to be high in fat. They would probably appreciate the help, too.

C8ccf1c3cb5d7bca4bdf3060ff6a888f

(15)

on February 06, 2012
at 12:01 AM

The cooking is a great idea. I actually made a coconut based curry before I heard of paleo and it was pretty fatty. Even though they believe that fat isn't healthy and go for low fat milk and yogurt, they still use butter and cream sometimes, so all our meals aren't necessarily low fat. Unfortunately they usually use veg oil along with those things. I don't think they would complain at all if I made dinners that happened to be high in fat. They would probably appreciate the help, too.

Bdf98e5a57befa6f0877f978ba09871c

on February 05, 2012
at 09:52 PM

I second the cooking suggestion. It's a good skill to have, plus you can show your parents something paleoriffic

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

(20378)

on February 06, 2012
at 07:40 AM

Exactly! Great plan Rakka!

C8ccf1c3cb5d7bca4bdf3060ff6a888f

(15)

on February 06, 2012
at 07:30 AM

Right, I'm not really going to douse everything in fat. The most important thing is I can most of the junk out.

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

(20378)

on February 06, 2012
at 05:26 AM

Cooking will be great. Even if the dishes aren't high fat all of the time. At least you can control some of the oil etc...

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on February 05, 2012
at 10:21 PM

Actually, the study Jeffrey Smith is talking about in that article has pretty bad epidemiology (small sample sizes that were inbred, always a bad combination). Of course, there are many other "better" studies to look at, but they are less sensationalist (good scientist=bad pr), so if your mom has less of a science background (ie won't break your back for not showing an ideal study), probably don't worry about it. The message is the important part!

F4a6fc9f0b701e12cdf2ad5dadaeb2dd

(360)

on February 05, 2012
at 08:43 PM

Wow, I might have to show MY mom this!!!

C8ccf1c3cb5d7bca4bdf3060ff6a888f

(15)

on February 06, 2012
at 07:26 AM

Thanks for the links!

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B580716e849029f2e65eb57fd86e79ca

on February 06, 2012
at 02:34 PM

http://vanessaruns.com/2011/02/08/gmos-and-why-you-should-never-use-canola-oil/ There's a nice one (ha! nice!?) on how Canola oil causes nerve damage.

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96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on February 05, 2012
at 10:40 PM

I like the idea of you doing your own cooking. My 17-yr-old grandson does all of his. Most times it's paleo but, if not, I honor his preferences. In his case, his meals are my healthy food and he gets his neolithic fix with rice cereal and moderate soda. If your parents agree, on the nights you cook substitute healthier ingredients and when they cook try to add healthy choices and eat sparingly from the bad stuff.

When you know you're eating veg oil, you might try to compensate by eating a can of sardines for O-3 balance. Just a thought.

Food for more thought: What if they were the ones who'd made a radical diet change and you were being forced to change just because you live with them? I like your goal to be healthy, but for now just try to get along and compromise where you can. All too soon you'll HAVE to buy and prepare all your food. It's better to laugh and tease about your different goals than allowing it to become a source of friction.

Special note on the pizza: Since I have to be no-wheat for health reasons, when the grand-kid wants pizza I grab toppings off a piece or two and flesh out my meal with salad or vegetables out of the fridge. If your parents are receptive to having produce around you could do the same and that would be a powerful gesture to show you're serious about this. Also, nearly everyone accepts that produce is healthy.

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on February 05, 2012
at 08:53 PM

Ultimately you won't have to eat what they eat for too much longer. And in the mean time you can still add IN healthy fats at dinner. Bring on the butter or coconut oil, even if you are the only one that eats it. Vegetable oil isn't going to kill you, not optimal, but issues around food can be really stressful. As you get healthier though, you may notice that you CAN'T eat soy oil, give me an awful tummy ache, maybe that would make them change?

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Bdf98e5a57befa6f0877f978ba09871c

on February 05, 2012
at 08:34 PM

I think you can look at it this way. You're 19, and ready to start making your own decisions. Now is the point in your life where your lifestyle becomes your own, not simply the product of your parents. I'm pretty sure there are good resources on paleo blogs, for example:

http://www.robbwolf.com/faq/

From there you can find some articles on good fats.

My point though, too, is to let your parents see you reading these things. Actions will speak louder than words, and if you suggest they read it too, they will see your interest in things paleo. Maybe they won't change mcuh, but they'll hopefully be open to the changes you're making

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(614)

on February 05, 2012
at 08:24 PM

I had my husband watch the movie Fat Head and that was fairly convincing for him. He still eats non-paleo at meals I don't prepare but he's much more on board with coconut oil and butter now. So happy he doesn't fear the fat now.

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on February 07, 2012
at 01:43 AM

I've successfully used Fat Head as a weapon several times.

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29dc8a736031cf1bcfdf3cd0c4714c18

on February 07, 2012
at 05:33 AM

Have them read a book called DEEP NUTRITION, particularly the chapter on Vegetable Oils and Sugar. But the whole book is EXCELLENT...

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F31547c23e0e6bec07b7736e94ef230a

on February 05, 2012
at 08:13 PM

Don't bother; if they question you, you let them know you've been doing your research on primal and paleo diet and desire to eat more biologically healthy -- not according to gov't funded health studies done during WWII. I'm 21. I tried to explain but it always results in arguing. Let bygones be bygones and eventually maybe after a couple years they may begin to grow more curious. I have found that trying to explain paleo to my folks is like trying to explain concepts like evolution by natural selection or that the Bible was a man-made story. (btw: I do not think evolution is required to back/support paleo.. that's just making it too complicated for the layman).

But the egg thing is absurd that you're eating too many. I myself, eat 2-3 eggs a day; it's absolutely fine. I recommend high Omega-3 flax-seed fed and veg.-fed hens or better. It's more expensive but it's your health you're paying for.

btw: Focus your energies on making $$ and get out of folk's place. Their lectures on your health will get on your nerves I guarantee!

C8ccf1c3cb5d7bca4bdf3060ff6a888f

(15)

on February 05, 2012
at 08:23 PM

Thanks for you response. They're into the whole "low fat" thing so I don't think I can convince them about paleo. But the problem is I'm eating dinner with them every night, so I'm eating the soybean oil too. I suppose I could stop having dinner with them but that would create other problems. It's difficult to make money or even find a job right now so I will probably be staying at home for another two years or more.

C8ccf1c3cb5d7bca4bdf3060ff6a888f

(15)

on February 05, 2012
at 08:21 PM

Thanks for you response. They're into the whole "low fat" thing so I don't think I can convince them about paleo. But the problem is I'm eating dinner with them every night, so I'm eating the soybean oil too. I suppose I could stop having dinner with them but that would create other problems.

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