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What is the definitive answer on safety of raw fish?

Answered on March 14, 2014
Created March 14, 2014 at 11:24 AM

Hi I have researched this but can't find anything consistent. I believe risks shouldn't always be taken. I was once keen on eating raw oysters and clams but once I read even HEALTHY people can die from that virus it really makes you step back and say "whaaaah?"

So supposedly "ahi" or "sushi" grade is how you protect yourself when you go to the store and buy raw fish, but then contrastingly I'm reading no matter what there is always the chance of getting worms, parasites, etc.

Now people will say things like "parasites are all around you" "you have them in you right now, you have worms in you right now" and I understand that. But I am being REAL here, I'm not talking about stuff that is trivial like that, I'm speaking of those worms that you end up having to go to the hospital for, I'm speaking of those urban-legend-type freaky pictures of worms the size of footballs leaking out of someone's behind, etc.

And there is never a definitive answer on freezing!! Some say freezing kills EVERYTHING but the times and temperatures are always off.

I'm just curious if science has determined an answer for this, is there a certain amount of time I can freeze, say, a chilean sea bass filet for or a tuna steak to guarantee safety? What temperature?

Thank you greatly!

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on March 14, 2014
at 01:24 PM

Even from Whole Foods stick with sushi grade from the freezer. I wouldn't trust anything in the meat case.

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on March 14, 2014
at 01:21 PM

I puked my guts out all night, alternated with diarrhea. Long night in the bathroom. It was warm, in south France, far from home. Probably from protozoans in the water instead of the food handlers.

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on March 14, 2014
at 01:10 PM

No don't worry no strip mall sushi bars. This would all be fish bought from a Whole Foods-type organic market, always wild-caught!

I hate being so worry-some but the nagger in me calls out from deep-down and says "what if?" . . I mean can you imagine getting up there with everyone else who has passed and everyone is sitting around telling their stories: you know, this person was murdered, this person died in a car crash, this person burned in a fire, and here comes I with "I died from an oyster" . . What a lame way to go....

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on March 14, 2014
at 01:06 PM

This question is for raw fish including raw shrimp and oysters and clams. My researching has resulted in unclear answers especially for the oysters and clams. I had assumed one only had to worry if one was elderly, young or sick, but there are anecdotes of peoples' spouses, healthy people, etc. getting sick and dying from raw oysters so I am not sure.

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on March 14, 2014
at 01:49 PM

wow interesting stuff. pretty weird how a worm out on the sidewalk would be no problem but a worm in meat can equal a bad day.. interesting

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on March 14, 2014
at 12:14 PM

You don't have to dig very far. The biggest problem is what plagues all raw foods.. Sanitation..

http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2012/05/cdc-reports-316-cases-in-outbreak-linked-to-sushi-tuna/

I' d stay out of strip mall sushi bars because of salmonella, e coli, hepatitis and cholera risks before worrying about parasites.

Doing it yourself there's less risk, but you have the best control if you gather it. Because I've gotten sick on raw oysters I'm leery of restaurants and fresh jar packs. But I will eat raw oysters I pick off beaches I know, in the cold weather months.

Regarding raw fish I always stay away from salmon even if I catch it. I've returned fresh wild sockeye that had sprouted red worms. I've had no problems with other seafood. Years ago I visited the Tsukigi fish market and saw rows of whole blast frozen tuna. Extreme low temperature freezing of fresh caught fish is the way to go for parasite control in a country that eats it every day as a staple. It's not something you can do with a home freezer, even with your own fresh fish.

http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2013/09/30/1-sushi-health-risk-parasites-with-7-tips-to-protect-yourself

4bf47833e2e71bbbb6946dcec7dfd5da

on March 14, 2014
at 01:10 PM

No don't worry no strip mall sushi bars. This would all be fish bought from a Whole Foods-type organic market, always wild-caught!

I hate being so worry-some but the nagger in me calls out from deep-down and says "what if?" . . I mean can you imagine getting up there with everyone else who has passed and everyone is sitting around telling their stories: you know, this person was murdered, this person died in a car crash, this person burned in a fire, and here comes I with "I died from an oyster" . . What a lame way to go....

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(10611)

on March 14, 2014
at 01:24 PM

Even from Whole Foods stick with sushi grade from the freezer. I wouldn't trust anything in the meat case.

Medium avatar

(10611)

on March 14, 2014
at 01:21 PM

I puked my guts out all night, alternated with diarrhea. Long night in the bathroom. It was warm, in south France, far from home. Probably from protozoans in the water instead of the food handlers.

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