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AIP Pancakes - is there such a thing?

Commented on March 12, 2014
Created September 28, 2013 at 12:18 AM

Uhh...Need...ppan...ccakes....

Does anyone have a recipe for pancakes that are Auto Immune Protocol friendly? I'm dying here.

I've seen general Paleo pancake recipes, but they still use eggs. The biggest poo is that I can't use gluten for the stretch and hold, nor eggs for the bind and bubbles. I experimented with expensive coconut flour that just fell apart, and had no air. I kinda knew it was going to happen, but my eyes glazed over and I went ahead anyway. Now I tap at the pile of crumbs on my plate and try to hold back the tears. :(

I've heard of people using mashed bananas and applesauce, but frustratingly no-one offers actual recipes. These sound stodgy and solid anyway...scary...

Surely a solution (a really satisfying solution) has been discovered?

67871ef2326f29da48f1522827fc0f80

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on March 12, 2014
at 01:25 PM

I'm an hour's drive from the nearest small town and they definitely don't have any ethnic markets -ha!

I'm in the Ozark Mountains and grew up raising or hunting all of our food (our own spring water, no infrastructure). While things have encroached, most things are over an hour away. WE'RE the ethnics :)

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on March 11, 2014
at 08:19 PM

I understand. If you have any sort of ethnic market nearby you can probably find plantains (most likely at a Hispanic market). Or, you can order plantain flour from Amazon. I know Paleo Mom loves her plantains, I think they are generally well tolerated, and a staple in many paleo kitchens :)

67871ef2326f29da48f1522827fc0f80

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on March 11, 2014
at 07:19 PM

I've done banana and didn't like it...

I have never used plantain flour (or plantain)--definitely doesn't grow within 1000 miles of where I live (bananas, for that matter, but you can get bananas at any market). I do not do well with faux grains (like quinoa makes me wish I were dead, I had ONE TABLESPOON of q-flour recently and I'm still not healed).

I'd have to test like everything else. Thanks for pointing it out to me. If I see plantain flour any place I go, I'll pick some up to challenge.

14b5f5508b48d8fe59499c4bbb65d5c4

on March 11, 2014
at 04:47 PM

did you see my recipe in the comment above yours? Plantain flour + gelatin = AIP pancakes. I am going to experiment with banana + coconut flour + gelatin as well and I think it will work.

Aeb4080aa185501ee22328672200b2f3

on October 05, 2013
at 01:34 AM

Thanks. Flax is seeds. I'm looking for AIP friendly recipes. :)

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on October 05, 2013
at 01:24 AM

Have you tried the popular egg replacement among vegans? 1T flax meal and 3T water per egg. I haven't tried it with pancake-like things, but it worked beautifully for cupcakes.

Aeb4080aa185501ee22328672200b2f3

on October 05, 2013
at 12:51 AM

Interesting, fun suggestion and I will try it - but first, is cassava AIP friendly?

Aeb4080aa185501ee22328672200b2f3

on October 05, 2013
at 12:49 AM

Thanks Bob!

F291857fa12a0291688ea994343156dc

(720)

on October 02, 2013
at 04:20 AM

Bummer about the hives :( Don't have to read every word but notice the a LOT of the items on these lists are the foods that the AIP says to avoid. Red wine used to give my wife a stuffy nose... about 20 years ago a family friend (MD) suggested taking an anti-histamine with the red wine, worked great but how healthy?

F291857fa12a0291688ea994343156dc

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on October 02, 2013
at 03:46 AM

"whey has a small amount of lactose and a large amount of casein" not quite correct. The process by which whey is "made" sets up a situation for easy isolation... "curds & whey". Whey is whey & curds is not. :) http://www.answerfitness.com/403/does-whey-have-casein/

PH .... FIX THE COMMENT POSTING SYSTEM! THE CHARACTER COUNTER IS JACKED UP AND THE COMMENT POSTING PROCESS "HANGS".

YES, I AM SHOUTING.

F291857fa12a0291688ea994343156dc

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on October 02, 2013
at 03:44 AM

I would agree that whey should probably be avoided by someone in @MetroCaveBoy situation but he was grasping for "a pancake fix" and people were trying to oblige. check this out.... http://primaltoad.com/whey/

A5127d60bca783084f191f38ffa357a6

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on October 01, 2013
at 06:49 PM

Yea man Ive tried water, Whats helped me most if avoiding certain histamine foods/sugar. Do you always have hives? I dont think eggs would hurt at all except raw egg whites that are said to have histamine

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on September 30, 2013
at 12:59 PM

Whey protein powder is just whey protein, not casein. A little too much koolaid here, particularly for a thread about freakin' pancakes. If you're doing auto-immune protocol paleo, just don't eat pancakes.

But if you're making pancakes, you need a protein source for it to hold together, eggs or gluten, possibly whey. I'd suggest xanthum gum, but I'm sure that's get downvoted too. But then, nearly every other answer suggests recipes involving eggs, despite that being a requirement the OP set.

Aeb4080aa185501ee22328672200b2f3

on September 30, 2013
at 12:35 PM

It seems egg yolks are very good - it's only egg white that contains the lysozyme. Even so, Paleo Mom also says the effect is very small, so if your gut isn't leaky then egg whites are ok too.

It's only whilst one is trying to heal a leaky gut that egg whites should be avoided.

Aeb4080aa185501ee22328672200b2f3

on September 30, 2013
at 12:29 PM

Thanks Sabertooth, I did see that recipe and will try it once my plantains are super ripe. It's bound to be yummy - solid, but yummy :)

Aeb4080aa185501ee22328672200b2f3

on September 30, 2013
at 12:28 PM

Hi Bob, you're right. I'll just have to get used to the idea of no pancakes until AIP is over. I just thought...maybe...just maybe...

It's actually a great time for me, really getting inside my head and accepting the beauty of clean eating. It takes time to adjust, but with knowledge and a positive, non-deprived attitude, and support like yours, the journey becomes a satisfying one.

Thanks.

1f9b52f29960095986234231d91e1967

(529)

on September 29, 2013
at 02:15 PM

Dairy is often completely removed on autoimmune protocols -- especially processed (not whole-food/close to natural state) (/oxidized?) things like whey.

In addition, whey has a small amount of lactose and a large amount of casein, both of which are often potentially aggravatory for autoimmune-like conditions.

1f9b52f29960095986234231d91e1967

(529)

on September 29, 2013
at 02:02 PM

Curious - what of egg yolks?

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on September 28, 2013
at 04:04 AM

OP is looking for something that doesn't include eggs. While Duck eggs are great they don't work here.

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67871ef2326f29da48f1522827fc0f80

(704)

on March 10, 2014
at 06:23 PM

I've given up. Anything I've tried has been so horrible, it wasted, expensive products (coconut flour or almond meal) and fell so far from the low bar I set that I haven't tried in over 2 years.

I'll go off-protocol now and then with some Udi's bread (toasted) when I'm craving 'bready' stuff but the pancake-ish thing is too disappointing.

14b5f5508b48d8fe59499c4bbb65d5c4

on March 11, 2014
at 04:47 PM

did you see my recipe in the comment above yours? Plantain flour + gelatin = AIP pancakes. I am going to experiment with banana + coconut flour + gelatin as well and I think it will work.

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14b5f5508b48d8fe59499c4bbb65d5c4

on March 08, 2014
at 10:02 PM

@MetroCaveBoy I am late to comment, but I have a recipe for autoimmune paleo pancakes on my blog. It uses plantain flour, which you can either buy (I can find it at any store in Miami, FL but I realize that's not the case with the rest of the U.S. -- it's on Amazon, too) or make it from dehydrated, ground green plantains. Gelatin is the perfect AIP egg replacement. I found that I also like to add a bit of extra fat to the egg-free version of the recipe as well. Here you go: http://thecuriouscoconut.com/blog/paleo-plantain-flour-pancakes

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4b3d506bd5c6fd435a5e5e677d81c23c

on October 04, 2013
at 05:54 PM

Well i figured it out i think, make poi, which is fermented cassava root. Bake the cassave, pound it, then mix it with water and let it ferment for several days. Then poor the poi like pancakes and bake, haven't tried it yet but i heard it worked. You can add other fruits and what not to the poi.

Aeb4080aa185501ee22328672200b2f3

on October 05, 2013
at 12:51 AM

Interesting, fun suggestion and I will try it - but first, is cassava AIP friendly?

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Aeb4080aa185501ee22328672200b2f3

on October 02, 2013
at 01:01 AM

Hi texas210,

Yes, I have hives all the time, in one form or another, and mostly at night. Sometimes I just burn up all over, sometimes I get insanely itchy fingers or wrists, and ALWAYS I get red welts wherever I lean against something edgy, eg my guitar or a chair. In the mornings I usually wake up with with welts on my neck and face..

I'm blindly following the AIP without actually knowing what foods are histamines, and what aren't. Is there a definitive list online that can tell me this so i can be more scientific about my exclusions and re-introductions?

F291857fa12a0291688ea994343156dc

(720)

on October 02, 2013
at 04:20 AM

Bummer about the hives :( Don't have to read every word but notice the a LOT of the items on these lists are the foods that the AIP says to avoid. Red wine used to give my wife a stuffy nose... about 20 years ago a family friend (MD) suggested taking an anti-histamine with the red wine, worked great but how healthy?

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1f9b52f29960095986234231d91e1967

on September 29, 2013
at 02:19 PM

(I presume you've read this basic recipe for plantain pancakes?)

Depending upon how fruits and starches affect you, you could try making taro/yuca/cassava/plantain-based pancakes.

Aeb4080aa185501ee22328672200b2f3

on September 30, 2013
at 12:29 PM

Thanks Sabertooth, I did see that recipe and will try it once my plantains are super ripe. It's bound to be yummy - solid, but yummy :)

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F291857fa12a0291688ea994343156dc

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on September 29, 2013
at 07:41 AM

@MetroCaveBoy Pancakes that are wheat, gluten & egg free to satisfy AIP?

AIP is pretty restrictive.... my wife did it for quite a while about 5 years ago, she got used to "I'll have the wild salmon and greens".

If you really need AIP then I would suggest you just get used to the idea of no pancakes for a while. The more faithful you are to AIP the better / faster it will work.

Most gluten free / wheat free / egg free "products" that are attempting to mimic a "regular" SAD recipe are going to be chemical soup. :(

I understand your desire to find & eat a yummy AIP pancakes but a wheat free & egg free pancake has got to be a pretty strange animal.

My best effort with Google, no experience with these:

http://www.foodily.com/s/protein-pancakes-no-eggs

Aeb4080aa185501ee22328672200b2f3

on September 30, 2013
at 12:28 PM

Hi Bob, you're right. I'll just have to get used to the idea of no pancakes until AIP is over. I just thought...maybe...just maybe...

It's actually a great time for me, really getting inside my head and accepting the beauty of clean eating. It takes time to adjust, but with knowledge and a positive, non-deprived attitude, and support like yours, the journey becomes a satisfying one.

Thanks.

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on September 28, 2013
at 11:26 PM

You need some sort of protein to help them hold together - gluten or eggs. Maybe whey protein powder?

1f9b52f29960095986234231d91e1967

(529)

on September 29, 2013
at 02:15 PM

Dairy is often completely removed on autoimmune protocols -- especially processed (not whole-food/close to natural state) (/oxidized?) things like whey.

In addition, whey has a small amount of lactose and a large amount of casein, both of which are often potentially aggravatory for autoimmune-like conditions.

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Aeb4080aa185501ee22328672200b2f3

on September 28, 2013
at 11:04 PM

Hi texas210, namaste. Gluten free is fine, but they no doubt have eggs as the binder. I can't find any pancake recipes that are gluten free, nut free, and egg free.

I'm trying to be strict AIP to wipe my body slate clean. I suffer from chronic hives (24 years now) and I'm not happy that I have to take antihistamines every day. Well, that's changing a bit now - I discovered the water therapy which I tried to tell you about for your chronic hives on a different post but somehow I couldn't add my comment to the thread.

I read on an online hives forum a comment by a Taiwanese guy, Sam, who suggests chronic RE-hydration. He suggests our illnesses are from chronic de-hydration. According to the formula I drink a cup of water every hour from 9am to 9pm. Sometimes I forget but usually I'm good. I pee a lot but that's ok. My hives are significantly quietened to the point where I only take an antihistamine every 3 days or so. I've been doing this for a couple of weeks, but will persevere for many more to see if I can't get rid of them once and for all.

The Water Formula is: measure your weight in pounds. Divide this number by 2. That number is how many ounces you should drink daily. Eg, if you weigh 100lbs, divide by 2 = 50, so you drink 50 oz daily. Try it, you have nothing to lose, and it's free. Just add a tiny bit of salt to the water since you'll be drinking so much water and you'll lose the important sodium balance - I use Celtic Salt, and I can't taste it.

Good luck.

A5127d60bca783084f191f38ffa357a6

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on October 01, 2013
at 06:49 PM

Yea man Ive tried water, Whats helped me most if avoiding certain histamine foods/sugar. Do you always have hives? I dont think eggs would hurt at all except raw egg whites that are said to have histamine

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A5127d60bca783084f191f38ffa357a6

on September 28, 2013
at 10:36 PM

Im on AI namaste gluten free pancakes didn't cuase me much pain, I cheated though and used syrup. Maybe you could try them what AI do you have?

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Aeb4080aa185501ee22328672200b2f3

on September 28, 2013
at 03:15 PM

I'm on the Autoimmune Protocol... no seeds. Thanks anyway :)

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on September 28, 2013
at 02:23 PM

Have you tried chia seeds? They make a very sticky, egg-like consistency when soaked in water.

http://fitnessista.com/2013/04/berry-chia-pancakes/

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on September 28, 2013
at 02:23 PM

Have you tried chia seeds? They make a very sticky, egg-like consistency when soaked in water.

http://fitnessista.com/2013/04/berry-chia-pancakes/

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Aeb4080aa185501ee22328672200b2f3

on September 28, 2013
at 02:06 PM

From my previous experience it won't work. They'll just fall apart.

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on September 28, 2013
at 02:00 PM

Danielle Walker has a pancake mix with blended bananas, coconut flour, baking soda, eggs and honey. I omitted the honey but did keep the eggs. Is it worth trying just with the first 3 ingredients.?

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Aeb4080aa185501ee22328672200b2f3

on September 28, 2013
at 05:36 AM

Thank you Want2BHealthyGirl for your suggestion and recipe. Unfortunately I'm on the AIP so all eggs are out for the moment. I'm observing this restriction only while I heal my gut, because of what I read on Paleo Mom's blog (Dr Sarah Ballantyne) about Leaky Gut and what happens to your body with egg whites, which contain lysozyme, viz:

"Lysozyme has an unusual chemical property (it maintains a positive charge) that allows it to cross through the enterocytes by electrostatic attraction to negatively charged proteins imbedded in the enterocyte cell surface (proteoglycans). Research confirms that consumed lysozyme gets into the circulation even in healthy individuals (even in conjunction with food intake, although the amount that enters the circulation is lower). 1,2,3Absorption of pure egg white lysozyme by itself into circulation is likely not problematic because lysozyme is an enzyme that the body naturally produces (unless it is absorbed in very high concentrations and then it can cause kidney damage). The problem is the other proteins that piggyback on lysozyme across the gut enterocyte barrier. It is this “leak” of other egg white proteins that is the reason why egg allergy is so common. Any other proteins present in the digestive tract can potentially bind in the lysozyme complex and get helped across the gut and into the blood stream (or lymph). And because lysozyme binds bacterial wall proteins, these are likely to “leak” across the gut enterocyte layer as well. These foreign proteins are believed to contribute to a molecular mimicry response where the body, in its attempt to form antibodies against these foreign invaders, accidentally creates an antibody that also recognizes a normal protein in the human body."

It's best to read the entire article to get her full perspective and all her wisdom and research:

Eggs and the Autoimmune Protocol

1f9b52f29960095986234231d91e1967

(529)

on September 29, 2013
at 02:02 PM

Curious - what of egg yolks?

Aeb4080aa185501ee22328672200b2f3

on September 30, 2013
at 12:35 PM

It seems egg yolks are very good - it's only egg white that contains the lysozyme. Even so, Paleo Mom also says the effect is very small, so if your gut isn't leaky then egg whites are ok too.

It's only whilst one is trying to heal a leaky gut that egg whites should be avoided.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on October 05, 2013
at 01:24 AM

Have you tried the popular egg replacement among vegans? 1T flax meal and 3T water per egg. I haven't tried it with pancake-like things, but it worked beautifully for cupcakes.

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on September 28, 2013
at 01:31 AM

I feel your pancake pain! I also love pancakes and after going gluten free and finding out I'm allergic to eggs I was so disappointed. I recently discovered Duck Eggs. I know it sounds strange but you can buy them in speciality food stores (most Whole Foods carries them) and they are wonderful and more nutritious than regular eggs. Here's the recipe I found that works great (I substitute with duck eggs, and maple syrup for honey):

http://bloggingmomof4.com/coconut-flour-paleo-pancakes/

I half the recipe, and when you add the coconut flour do a little at a time, and let it sit for a minute before putting in the pan. The flour needs time to expand and you may need to add in more coconut milk.

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on September 28, 2013
at 04:04 AM

OP is looking for something that doesn't include eggs. While Duck eggs are great they don't work here.

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