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New Moderators?

Commented on May 23, 2014
Created May 19, 2014 at 5:29 PM

Hey everyone,

It's come to my attention that I need to A) step up my game here and B) we need some more moderators and spam control on PaleoHacks.

So, I want to use this thread as an opportunity for you all to vote on 2-3 new moderators. I'll review in the next 24-48 hours or so and we'll get them started.

Have at it!

76026e8ef496039d5075440ff731aa0d

(5386)

on May 23, 2014
at 11:11 AM

I've been closing a lot of spam over the last 72 hrs. to get an idea of how bad it is...it SUCKS! I'm in Pacific standard time and from about 0100 hrs -0500 hrs, it's non stop spam (roughly 4 per hour)

If someone is needed at that particular time, I'm throwing my hat into the ring!

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on May 23, 2014
at 10:26 AM

w00t! :)

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on May 22, 2014
at 05:16 PM

an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. More mods (especially active mods) may help cure the problem, but if you can prevent it from the get-go the site as a whole would be better off.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on May 22, 2014
at 05:14 PM

Is it really common sense if it is that rare?

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10979)

on May 21, 2014
at 02:51 AM

Lol @TruthinessInc , @raydawg is already a mod. Notice the diamond after his name.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on May 20, 2014
at 11:30 PM

Ok, in that case, I'll change my comment to "ego inflation warning"

76026e8ef496039d5075440ff731aa0d

(5386)

on May 20, 2014
at 11:13 PM

I've watched a lot of House...blushing may be a sign of lupus :-P

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on May 20, 2014
at 04:39 PM

You've got me blushing now. :)

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on May 20, 2014
at 04:39 PM

That might not work, there are many services like mailinator with lots of domains that provide throwaway webmail.

595080f8d07950eeefd0b48339e01897

on May 20, 2014
at 06:16 AM

Also, a requirement of 50 points minimum to post questions would be useful in deterring these throwaway spam accounts.

If not that then can we at least do email verification before posts? Right now I can create a fake account with a fake email that I don't have access to and post questions. For example, I just created this account in two seconds. This is a fake email and I can post answers/questions/comments with it.

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B7b503a8fe916f7e67b20afc4137e9f6

on May 22, 2014
at 11:40 PM

Awwright.

So I've added @Matt 11, @CDone, and @thhq to the moderator club. :) You all should be able to delete questions no problem now. I am going to reach out to you 3 + raydawg via email shortly (based on the email you have on file) so we can all communicate and get on the same page.

Regarding the spam overall - I've spoken with Dzone (answerhub) - and we will be updating our answerhub version in the next few days, which should help. I am also going to talk to them tomorrow a bit more about other things we can implement in regards to handling spam.

@Stephen 4 I will reach out to you as well and we can potentially figure something out.

Thanks everyone for your comments and support. I really appreciate the constructive criticism vs crapping all over it. We've definitely had our struggles in the past few months with PaleoHacks, and I can't guarantee there won't be a few more as we move forward, but I will be working my ass off to make this community the best it can be. :)

Dave

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on May 23, 2014
at 10:26 AM

w00t! :)

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782d92f4127823bdfb2ddfcbcf961d0e

on May 22, 2014
at 09:12 PM

One would think that this thread would have generated more traffic in the last three days considering how annoying the spam has become. Anyway, FWIW, I think it isn't so much how 'paleo' the mods adhere to. But being active on this site and knowledgeable, both on principles and platform systems (or whatever it is that raydawg is talking about) is. So with that in mind, raydawg, Matt 11, CDone, Stephen 4, and thhq would all make fine mods. Just my $0.02.

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558c2aee7ba2edcddc739556cd0677bc

on May 22, 2014
at 11:51 AM

spam

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Medium avatar

(10601)

on May 20, 2014
at 09:25 AM

Matt11 and CDOne. Travis?

The ability to delete spam will clean things up a lot. But raydawg's ideas for permanent fixes are better. We need a better method to shut the stuff off, preferably before it posts.

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Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10979)

on May 20, 2014
at 06:29 AM

My top 2 votes for active users who should have mod status goes to:

  1. CDone
  2. Matt 11
Also, some users who would do well with mod status if they were still active on these boards would include the following:
  1. ForeverYoung
  2. Greymouser
  3. Mscott
  4. August
  5. Varelse
  6. Mike T 1
On a side note: I'm interested in helping contribute to the PH website. I'm a web developer and would be happy to help contribute by re-implementing some older features and possibly even new features where desired.

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76026e8ef496039d5075440ff731aa0d

on May 20, 2014
at 01:59 AM

Raydawg, Matt 11 and CD...I've seen them since I've started and agree with a lot of what they say, not because it's dogman, but because it challenges that dogma...sure, learn the basics, but don't let food rule your life, enjoy life..That’s what they seem to promote more than anyone else.

We are all born with 5 senses...common is not one among those...these guys approach everything with the common sense so many of us seem to check at the door.

Truth.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on May 20, 2014
at 04:39 PM

You've got me blushing now. :)

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10979)

on May 21, 2014
at 02:51 AM

Lol @TruthinessInc , @raydawg is already a mod. Notice the diamond after his name.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on May 22, 2014
at 05:14 PM

Is it really common sense if it is that rare?

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96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on May 19, 2014
at 06:13 PM

I'd vote for Matt 11, CDOne, Stephen 4, thhq - these guys have edited spam posts and closed them, so would be good to give them the ability to delete spam too.

It would also help if we could get a moderator or two outside the US. Most of the spam shows up before 5am ET - seems to be 2am-5am ET and seems to come from overseas. This is usually before I'm awake, though I check most mornings for it as time permits. So would help to get someone in those timezones who is a paleohacker and interested in whacking spam.

The spammers have very clear patterns, the text is usually Markov chain generated, sometimes there's a bait question followed by an answer, sometimes they're sneaky and use subjects that are legit to paleohacks, but the content is not. I suspect they're being paid for this, either for SEO or for actual spam, as the stuff varies day by day. There's one spammer whose name is usual a female name starting with a (i.e. alice, anna, ama, etc.) and ends is "aja" and some number that's been very obvious, others have no patterns or similar.

They usually get new accounts, usually from yahoo, sometimes from gmail or outlook.com. Closing their accounts is usually useless as they're throwaway accounts. I suspect yahoo makes getting a new account very easy.

It would help tons if we could get their IP addresses and block them it would probably eliminate all of them (barring tor and other proxies, but those have limited IP ranges and can also be blocked.) Since most of the spammers seem to follow patterns, they're very likely coming from a limited set of IP addresses.

Another thing that would get rid of the spam is to prevent them from posting links, though if they're doing actual spamming and not SEO, they won't care, they'll just post shit like h t t p : / / s p a m s i t e . biz instead. Based on their behavior, I suspect a lot is SEO stuff.

Very few post to comments or answers in old threads. There were some of these that look like they're just starting out in the health-biz and trying to sneak under the radar and post links back to their blogs or whatever. These would usually find some old thread they have a blog post about and sneak in a link to their post. A few of these would copy-pasta canned answers like "high cholesterol is bad for you, avoid saturated fat" and such and makes them very easy to spot. I googled one of their sentences and found many websites with the same verbatim text - so someone is copying these and posting lots of sites, or selling content. Either way, it's not how people normally respond on paleohacks, it's easily spotted if you look a bit deeper at the language and what the question asked.

Hope this helps.

595080f8d07950eeefd0b48339e01897

on May 20, 2014
at 06:16 AM

Also, a requirement of 50 points minimum to post questions would be useful in deterring these throwaway spam accounts.

If not that then can we at least do email verification before posts? Right now I can create a fake account with a fake email that I don't have access to and post questions. For example, I just created this account in two seconds. This is a fake email and I can post answers/questions/comments with it.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

(26217)

on May 22, 2014
at 05:16 PM

an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. More mods (especially active mods) may help cure the problem, but if you can prevent it from the get-go the site as a whole would be better off.

76026e8ef496039d5075440ff731aa0d

(5386)

on May 23, 2014
at 11:11 AM

I've been closing a lot of spam over the last 72 hrs. to get an idea of how bad it is...it SUCKS! I'm in Pacific standard time and from about 0100 hrs -0500 hrs, it's non stop spam (roughly 4 per hour)

If someone is needed at that particular time, I'm throwing my hat into the ring!

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