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Are you the same person here and in the physical world?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created July 28, 2011 at 8:14 PM

Despite the relative anonymity of this board - not everyone has met up at the Ancestral Health Symposium or PrimalCon, for instance - many paleohackers have distinct and recognizable personalities here. JCB's comment on Stabby's reply is a perfect example of this - http://paleohacks.com/questions/51685/do-you-have-any-great-images-that-show-your-worldview/51694#51694

I'm really wondering about the comfort zone created in this little world. Are you yourself, "more" yourself/who you want to be, or someone else entirely here as compared to the outside world?

If a co-worker with whom you have a friendly but professional working relationship were to read all your replies or comments here, would he or she be surprised at what you have to say, how you say it, or how confident or unsure you come across here as opposed to in "real life?" If you met another paleohacker you've never met in person, would he or she view you exactly the same way in the physical world as your replies and comments make you seem here?

0e395acc856e3353f3f5892e6b09b0e7

(1227)

on January 27, 2012
at 12:37 PM

Where are you Stephen-Aegis. I miss your cogent comments. I hope you are doing well.

0e395acc856e3353f3f5892e6b09b0e7

(1227)

on January 27, 2012
at 12:36 PM

"I think we're alll past the point in life where we're actively trying to change each other." An usually unhearalded advantage of advanced middle age. Thank you, Nance.

5cd7ceb59b7a47a6a7818dbf05ebe585

(35)

on January 27, 2012
at 10:33 AM

hahah love these comments! I write exactly like how i talk :PP

27e79ef3308bb5f2d7bd04ee7eea7b79

(2038)

on August 08, 2011
at 09:07 AM

Wow. You're me when it comes to being sarcastic IRL but more respectful here.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on July 29, 2011
at 10:13 PM

In real life I am taller.

0f54323bfba62560a55f8d1922e109df

(10)

on July 29, 2011
at 07:44 PM

I know exactly what you mean, me and my partner are both paleo. When we get the "oh i dont think i could stop eating bread" i have to try really hard not to say anything. When its people that you care about family/friends its usually really difficult. I went to my sisters last week only to see her feeding her six month old breadsticks! Yikes!

E2b9c679315c7c9c7265783dde89f350

(1303)

on July 29, 2011
at 05:55 PM

Once, when meeting an online friend IRL, she stopped, stared, then her jaw dropped open. After a few seconds she blurted out "You talk *exactly* the way you write!" :-D

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

(7304)

on July 29, 2011
at 05:48 PM

+1 .

A89f9751a97c3082802dc0bcbe4e9208

(13978)

on July 29, 2011
at 04:56 PM

A few years ago, I started to noticed how irate other know-it-alls made me and I decided that I didn't want to engender that feeling in others. So I'm working on keeping my mouth shut unless someone directly asks me a relevant question. It's a constant challenge. ;)

B0454de6d4f4cdd9ca2e59021dc105bf

(606)

on July 29, 2011
at 02:21 PM

Gotta admit, I'm a closet paleo in real life, just so I don't have to deal with the naysayers, the scoffers and the self-appointed nutrition know-it-alls. Granted, all three groups are well represented on PH, but they're easier to endure when they're just text on a screen!

E7a462d6e99fec7e8f0ddda11b34a770

(1638)

on July 29, 2011
at 01:33 PM

I think I've given up on that and just accepted that I am a busybody know-it-all and people are either going to bear with me or not

E7a462d6e99fec7e8f0ddda11b34a770

(1638)

on July 29, 2011
at 01:10 PM

+1 for the "hippie sap"

Be1dbd31e4a3fccd4394494aa5db256d

(17969)

on July 29, 2011
at 05:17 AM

In the real world I'll kill for a price. So no.

F78bfa3ae7886d1ebdbcbc37c0a1b085

(50)

on July 29, 2011
at 04:03 AM

Yes. People are always surprised how much my real self is like my online self, it is very difficult for me to present myself any other way.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on July 29, 2011
at 01:27 AM

I'm much cuter in person.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on July 29, 2011
at 01:27 AM

I'm much cuter in oerson

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on July 28, 2011
at 11:44 PM

well bree, if you can get here in time, there is a paleo beach bbq at my place next month at which kamal will also be gracing us with his presence. im sure ill end up getting drunk and making a fool of myself. not really.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on July 28, 2011
at 11:21 PM

Plus one.......be who you are

66e6b190e62fb3bcf42d4c60801c7bf6

(12407)

on July 28, 2011
at 11:20 PM

best username evah

Medium avatar

(12379)

on July 28, 2011
at 10:51 PM

Is it just me - or is anyone else a little jealous of this picnic (damn border and 3000 miles)

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on July 28, 2011
at 10:03 PM

my friend rob once went trick or treating in georgetown (DC) to richard nixons house wearing a nixon mask. he also used to shoot bottle rockets into the windows of the syrian embassy. it was a different time.....

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

(18472)

on July 28, 2011
at 09:54 PM

"somebody stop me!"

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on July 28, 2011
at 09:50 PM

no no, feel free to bring up anything mask related. for example, "the mask" starring jim carrey was the second highest-grossing superhero movie of all time back in the day.

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

(18472)

on July 28, 2011
at 09:42 PM

new mask to get is the casey anthony mask. it got bid up to almost $1M on ebay. seller: "forget freddy, jason... here's yoru chance to scare the S*%$ out of everyone". anyway I don't really know what this has to do with you all meeting up at AHS. I just saw the word mask and wanted to talk about the casey canthony mask.

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on July 28, 2011
at 08:57 PM

^^^ this situation always calls for rubber nixon masks.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on July 28, 2011
at 08:51 PM

The AHS question is a good one. Any bright ideas? It might be hard to do based on pictures. I don't look like Amelie, Stabby probably isn't a raccoon, etc etc.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on July 28, 2011
at 08:49 PM

We met at a picnic! akd rolled up with her husband and two adorable kids in tow. More importantly, she brought yummy chicken and slaw.

65430e39d7e9e9322718d016fe668051

(2944)

on July 28, 2011
at 08:45 PM

Also how are we gunna know who everyone is at the AHS? Put our PH names on our nametags?

65430e39d7e9e9322718d016fe668051

(2944)

on July 28, 2011
at 08:44 PM

How did you two end up meeting?

65430e39d7e9e9322718d016fe668051

(2944)

on July 28, 2011
at 08:44 PM

I feel ya girl!

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on July 28, 2011
at 08:31 PM

(just kidding, by the way. akd seemed funny and chill online and that did in fact match the offline reality.)

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on July 28, 2011
at 08:30 PM

i can verify this. akd is a total biatch online, but a total sweety in person.

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

(18472)

on July 28, 2011
at 08:22 PM

nice question! I'd bet some people run some variation of an "alter ego" on here.

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14
77ecc37f89dbe8f783179323916bd8e6

(5002)

on July 28, 2011
at 08:46 PM

My diet-related PH and real world anxieties are different.

I have 2 primary PH anxieties:

(i) that I will disseminate false information persuasively; or

(ii) that I will seem disrespectful or dismissive toward PHers with whom I disagree.

I fundamentally respect everyone here, and the idea that I would discourage others' opinions or participation is anathema to me. In the real world I am pretty sarcastic and abrasive, and I take great pains to make sure that those parts of my personality don't carry over to PH. On this front I do not always succeed, unfortunately, but I do my best.

In the real world I have different anxieties. I try not to talk about the paleo diet, but I frequently can't resist, and as a result I get made fun of for talking about it too much among friends. So my main concern away from PH is that I am annoying people. I'd much rather entertain and stimulate them.

The paleo paradigm is so radical that I've found I cannot positively impact someone's health via passing comments or brief discussion. The person has to care enough to commit to hearing a thorough account of the diet and its supporting evidence and theory. I find the issues to be intellectually stimulating, but to my surprise many of my friends - several who are smarter and more educated than me - do not.

Ironically, I'm less likely to talk about racy issues like libido on PH because I fear that it will get dug up by the wrong person and taken out of context. With friends, however, I'm not shy at all with just about any topic, which is kind of a shame because this is a great forum to discuss such issues and how they relate to diet. That's just a decision that I made at the beginning.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on July 28, 2011
at 11:21 PM

Plus one.......be who you are

27e79ef3308bb5f2d7bd04ee7eea7b79

(2038)

on August 08, 2011
at 09:07 AM

Wow. You're me when it comes to being sarcastic IRL but more respectful here.

11
1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

on July 28, 2011
at 08:21 PM

I have to admit. I'm not nearly as much of a blowhard about "healthy fats" and paleo in person because I'm still losing weight. I know it's kind of screwed up but I feel like I need to be at my goal weight before I can be really vocal about what a life changing switch going paleo has been. I'm 40 down, 60 to go. I don't plan on being an evangelist but if someone starts going on a rant about healthy grains or veganism in front of (or to me) me I won't keep my mouth shut like I do now.

65430e39d7e9e9322718d016fe668051

(2944)

on July 28, 2011
at 08:44 PM

I feel ya girl!

B0454de6d4f4cdd9ca2e59021dc105bf

(606)

on July 29, 2011
at 02:21 PM

Gotta admit, I'm a closet paleo in real life, just so I don't have to deal with the naysayers, the scoffers and the self-appointed nutrition know-it-alls. Granted, all three groups are well represented on PH, but they're easier to endure when they're just text on a screen!

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Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on July 28, 2011
at 08:25 PM

as in all things, ill defer to kamal on this. hes the only PHer ive met in person. there are several i talk to off the boards, though.

im fairly authentic on the interwebs, i think. i probably come off as more abrasive online than i do in person because im fairly outspoken and opinionated, but its all me. i know next to nothing about paleo nutrition outside of my own experiences, so i try to stick to that and the basic generalities. i love paleo, but i think my version of it is probably looser than many other PHers.

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

(18472)

on July 28, 2011
at 09:54 PM

"somebody stop me!"

65430e39d7e9e9322718d016fe668051

(2944)

on July 28, 2011
at 08:44 PM

How did you two end up meeting?

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

(18472)

on July 28, 2011
at 09:42 PM

new mask to get is the casey anthony mask. it got bid up to almost $1M on ebay. seller: "forget freddy, jason... here's yoru chance to scare the S*%$ out of everyone". anyway I don't really know what this has to do with you all meeting up at AHS. I just saw the word mask and wanted to talk about the casey canthony mask.

65430e39d7e9e9322718d016fe668051

(2944)

on July 28, 2011
at 08:45 PM

Also how are we gunna know who everyone is at the AHS? Put our PH names on our nametags?

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on July 28, 2011
at 08:31 PM

(just kidding, by the way. akd seemed funny and chill online and that did in fact match the offline reality.)

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on July 28, 2011
at 10:03 PM

my friend rob once went trick or treating in georgetown (DC) to richard nixons house wearing a nixon mask. he also used to shoot bottle rockets into the windows of the syrian embassy. it was a different time.....

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on July 28, 2011
at 08:30 PM

i can verify this. akd is a total biatch online, but a total sweety in person.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on July 28, 2011
at 08:51 PM

The AHS question is a good one. Any bright ideas? It might be hard to do based on pictures. I don't look like Amelie, Stabby probably isn't a raccoon, etc etc.

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on July 28, 2011
at 11:44 PM

well bree, if you can get here in time, there is a paleo beach bbq at my place next month at which kamal will also be gracing us with his presence. im sure ill end up getting drunk and making a fool of myself. not really.

Medium avatar

(12379)

on July 28, 2011
at 10:51 PM

Is it just me - or is anyone else a little jealous of this picnic (damn border and 3000 miles)

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on July 28, 2011
at 09:50 PM

no no, feel free to bring up anything mask related. for example, "the mask" starring jim carrey was the second highest-grossing superhero movie of all time back in the day.

Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on July 28, 2011
at 08:57 PM

^^^ this situation always calls for rubber nixon masks.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on July 28, 2011
at 08:49 PM

We met at a picnic! akd rolled up with her husband and two adorable kids in tow. More importantly, she brought yummy chicken and slaw.

5
Af9537cfa50562b67979624e9007e12a

(1334)

on July 28, 2011
at 09:21 PM

I'm too old and grouchy to bother with alter egos in person, or the internet.

work and home is 2 different people though, Mr. black and white engineering guy VS. beer drinking redneck playing with cars and guns. (I am getting better with the beer drinking though, Nor-cal margaritas for the summer)

5
E7a462d6e99fec7e8f0ddda11b34a770

(1638)

on July 28, 2011
at 09:11 PM

Ooh - I feel like a minor celebrity right now! (But how could anyone NOT have realized that a picture of a raccoon holding a knife HAD to be Stabby? I think I just got there first with that one. )

As for me, yeah, I am pretty much the same me everywhere nowadays although I DO regularly surprise the people at work who get fooled by surface appearances. Once they actually talk to me they realize that I am NOT the 50+ standard American suburban matron I look like and that I am really slightly strange.

And as I get older it just seems to be too much work to "put up a front". I always used to say that it would be really cool once I got old enough to be considered "eccentric" rather than just weird - got a few years to go still I think, but I'm gettin' there.

So, if we ever meet IRL, I don't think anyone would have trouble reconciling the physical me with the virtual me. Good question, by the way.

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A89f9751a97c3082802dc0bcbe4e9208

(13978)

on July 29, 2011
at 01:15 PM

I try to be less of a know-it-all IRL. I don't always succeed. ;)

E7a462d6e99fec7e8f0ddda11b34a770

(1638)

on July 29, 2011
at 01:33 PM

I think I've given up on that and just accepted that I am a busybody know-it-all and people are either going to bear with me or not

A89f9751a97c3082802dc0bcbe4e9208

(13978)

on July 29, 2011
at 04:56 PM

A few years ago, I started to noticed how irate other know-it-alls made me and I decided that I didn't want to engender that feeling in others. So I'm working on keeping my mouth shut unless someone directly asks me a relevant question. It's a constant challenge. ;)

0f54323bfba62560a55f8d1922e109df

(10)

on July 29, 2011
at 07:44 PM

I know exactly what you mean, me and my partner are both paleo. When we get the "oh i dont think i could stop eating bread" i have to try really hard not to say anything. When its people that you care about family/friends its usually really difficult. I went to my sisters last week only to see her feeding her six month old breadsticks! Yikes!

3
6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on July 29, 2011
at 05:22 AM

I'm me. The only difference is that I get to geek out on here in ways that would bore the crap out of most people I talk to during the day. My friends and family thank all of you for indulging me.

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

(7304)

on July 29, 2011
at 05:48 PM

+1 .

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C1c86f42410cd4788bd9c5cf801dcd8f

(2246)

on July 29, 2011
at 12:29 AM

I'm much nicer on here then I am in real life, I don't think i've really cursed anyone out or have swore once.

However I did this morning at work.

3
Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on July 28, 2011
at 09:36 PM

As far as advice I give, yes, I'm the same in the "real" world...being a nutritional therapist, I talk about nutrition all the time...but I am more willing to share things here about myself that I don't tend to share much with people in my life...most people I am friends with eat really differently than I do, and don't get my diet at all, which is fine...I don't tend to talk about being in lifetime recovery for eating disorder, but I think I've mentioned that on here several times, and quite a few people have told me they're in the smae boat...that is something I have some shame issues around for sure, so it feels good to be more open about it on here...

2
Cf4576cbcc44fc7f2294135609bce9e5

on January 27, 2012
at 01:49 AM

online im not trying to get laid so i guess im more genuine.

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96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on January 27, 2012
at 01:24 AM

I'm equally bland and boring in both places. :-))

I do, however, talk about different things in the real world as my friends are other seniors who are enjoying my weight loss success and good health but have little interest in ancestral eating. We go to bingo, we knit together, we admire each other's container gardens and solar lights, we talk sports (football, basketball, NASCAR, golf) and we rib each other about little things that don't matter much in the scale of things.

I do feel free to talk about my eating changes, and I compare notes with a friend whose husband is diabetic, but I think we're all past the point in life where we're actively trying to change each other.

0e395acc856e3353f3f5892e6b09b0e7

(1227)

on January 27, 2012
at 12:36 PM

"I think we're alll past the point in life where we're actively trying to change each other." An usually unhearalded advantage of advanced middle age. Thank you, Nance.

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100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

(18706)

on July 30, 2011
at 12:51 PM

I can relate to Gilliebean's answer. I tend to be more patient and give more benefit of the doubt IRL.

For some reason the online context makes me less empathetic and more polarized. I wouldn't go so far as to say that I'm a different person, just that I'm more likely to think of an online interaction as an interaction with a statement itself, rather than with a person.

It's something I'm working on, because I actually really value being kind and finding a point of mutual understanding with people, even if our beliefs are very different.

2
Ce7e28769d92d5de5533e775b1de966e

on July 29, 2011
at 01:06 PM

Well, besides the fact that none of you can see that I'm 6' tall, cute as a button, smell really nice, give great hugs, and have a tendency to put people over my shoulders in a firemen's carry, what you "see" here is pretty much it.

PS: 4 of the things listed above are true. Hint: one of them is "what you see here" :)

2
B14dc4aa1ddefbec3bc09550428ee493

on July 29, 2011
at 10:51 AM

I'd like to hope I'm the same person. I've never felt that being anonymous was a license to behave differently than I would in real life.

2
1471beca8e3adff4ae2f89d10e5f7acb

on July 29, 2011
at 12:23 AM

The same. Snarky, but generally nice. Kind of a hippie sap.

E7a462d6e99fec7e8f0ddda11b34a770

(1638)

on July 29, 2011
at 01:10 PM

+1 for the "hippie sap"

1
218f4d92627e4289cc81178fce5b4d00

on January 27, 2012
at 12:23 PM

I'm a mixed bag. On the interwebs I speak my mind. Around my friends I mostly shut up. I don't want to nag them too much. My family, I am always on their case. Work? I am a teacher, this year I have used Food Inc, Fathead and parts of The World According to Monsanto as film studies. At school I use my position to teach more than my designated topic, I teach about the "bigger picture". Some kids really don't care, I have scared a few of them into cutting right back on bread. Either way I have sown plenty of seeds of doubt in a lot of young minds. Ideas are powerful things.

1
Bdf98e5a57befa6f0877f978ba09871c

on January 27, 2012
at 02:54 AM

For me here online I try to be authentic to the part of my real self which is relevant to paleo. For example, being a grad student is %100 relevant, but it has come up a few times. However, being a barefooter, and someone who has become more health-conscious over the years -- yeah, that's relevant. Whether or not I meet up with other PHers isn't all that important to me, but more so that I learn from people and have a place to constructively share my experiences of the lifestyle.

That said, if I meet other PHers, that would be great. The only other paleo person I know IRL is my mate, and a sense of community would be nice. But maybe that's why I'm so active here in the first place.

1
361bc16cfdad25411a6f93e10c45aadc

on January 27, 2012
at 12:34 AM

I don't spend nearly as much time editing and double checking things that I say out loud. :)

1
4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

on August 08, 2011
at 10:04 AM

I am far more polite in real life. I tear apart misinformation with the same fervor however.

It's easier to walk away from people in real life...

0e395acc856e3353f3f5892e6b09b0e7

(1227)

on January 27, 2012
at 12:37 PM

Where are you Stephen-Aegis. I miss your cogent comments. I hope you are doing well.

1
0f54323bfba62560a55f8d1922e109df

on July 29, 2011
at 07:40 PM

Id like to think that people dont have that same bored expression on their faces when i talk passionatly about my hatred for all things grain. Would be nice to meet some people in the flesh though

1
Medium avatar

(19479)

on July 29, 2011
at 06:27 PM

Am I the same person on PaleoHacks as I am in person? Unequivocally, "Yes."

My professional life is an amalgamation of Personal Training/Health Coaching, Fitness Writing (print magazines/blogs), and Fitness Center Management. At home, often to the annoyance of my decidedly "non-paleo" wife, I "practice what I preach".

On this subject, I have found the following quote to be quite true...

"If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything." ~Mark Twain

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1f8384be58052b6b96f476e475abdc74

(2231)

on July 29, 2011
at 05:21 PM

I am the same me in person, I think. I am very quiet and conservative though when people first meet me and I doubt i express that on the internet. I'm shy, quiet, and i definitely do not talk about health & nutrition with people. On the internet I feel like I have this 'known' about me and anorexia, which I wish never had developed because I feel as though no one will listen to me and every single question/problem I address is 'your still anorexic' or something.

1
Ffc7e0ecad8e8831b528c5d4921377cc

(942)

on July 29, 2011
at 04:54 AM

My real life account was closed for inactivity. Oh, wait, that's my line in Second Life.

I'm the same grumpy old codger in the physical world as I am here.

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7d0c3ea9bf8be00b93e6433d8f125ac3

(7540)

on July 29, 2011
at 01:24 AM

I'm a lot more assertive than I am in real life. Also in real life I'm the kind of person who usually keeps their mouth shut even if I feel like I could add something to the conversation. But I'm getting much better about growing a spine, which I basically have to credit entirely to my job. I'm pretty sure I also come off as a lot more brusque here than I ever do in real life.

0
273729a18d2f18903815d2644a4d64de

(1683)

on January 27, 2012
at 12:50 PM

In short: No. But it goes much deeper than that. When I'm trying to "teach" or "inform" someone I don't know, such as on PH, I talk how I type. I try to explain it everything simply and be positive and I like to question EVERYTHING...however, the more comfortable I become with said "student" I slowly become more snarky (in a fun way) and weird. I also have no filter on my mouth, so anything and everything will come flying out. Confrontation is not unusual l here :P Not to mention sarcastic and my mind is in the gutter...a lot. Everything can and will be turned into a sexual joke. I try to have fun. My first few months here on PH (full of negativity towards myself) were very unlike MICHELLE, and now that Im starting to get over whatever set me down that bad road, Im starting to get back to my normal self. Im 19, and most people who meet me think Im about 25. I hang out with all the 27/28/29 year olds at my Crossfit box because too many stupid college people anger me, if that says anything about me.

If I were the snarky, weird person on PaleoHacks as I am in real life people would think I was like the worst person in the world. Context is very important :P :D

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on August 08, 2011
at 09:08 AM

I'm really enjoying all the thoughts coming out of the AHS, especially the "favorite speakers" thread. Now that several of you all have met in person, did you find yourself to be the same here and there?

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on July 29, 2011
at 02:01 PM

I am me. I have been active in gluten forums long before I changed over to a primal diet. I have met many of these forum people in real life and they have always been just who they said they were. I bet it will be the same for my paleo friends. I was planning on being at the Ancestral Symposium but will have to miss it because my first grandchild is about to be born. I do plan on going on the Low Carb Cruise so you can meet me there.

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on July 28, 2011
at 09:28 PM

Better in real life

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on July 28, 2011
at 11:20 PM

best username evah

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