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Why is this site here?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 10, 2012 at 7:36 AM

As I understand it this site is for people who want to get healthy based on the theory that we should act in a way that is in accord with our evolution. That we should use Evolution as a general guideline for forming theories and making decisions in how we eat, sleep, move etc...

So that said why do we have cliques of people on this site who don't agree with that model? I don't mind the differences in experience nor the different interpretation of the how we evolved but it seems to me that certain cliques don't really want to discuss Paleo, they are actually here to just stir things up and cause problems.

So for those of you who don't eat Primal/Paleo in some variation....why are you here? If you are a vegan why not go to a vegan site? If you doubt evolution why base even part of your life on something you think is false? If you want to live of Jello, Shellfish and Ice-Cream why not go find like-minded people and refine what is working for you?

Why a Paleo site if you aren't Paleo?

1da74185531d6d4c7182fb9ee417f97f

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on November 05, 2012
at 11:12 PM

Word! I totally agree.

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

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on October 17, 2012
at 02:53 PM

JamesL - I agree that there are limits to what's appropriate to be on here. I'm wary though that without external views 'paleo' becomes out of touch- evolutaionry eating doesn't exist in a vacuum

7bf306ada57db47547e9da39a415edf6

(11214)

on October 16, 2012
at 09:30 PM

Paleo tends to be low carb. It was not low carb in its inception, but Boyd and Cordain readily admitted it was easy to be low carb while paleo, and the guess was the average paleolithic man got around 100g a day. There hasn't been any change, just a debate- the research hasn't even been done yet. This is why NuSi was created.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 16, 2012
at 12:13 PM

On the contrary, I'm very pleased with those questions getting shut down - particularly when they're shut down faster than troll bait. It's rather telling, don't you think?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 16, 2012
at 12:52 AM

@Harry - Much more useful than suggesting that we all go vegan. Or switch to the Jello-clam-and ice cream diet. Honestly your thread about bacon was closed because it was the THIRD ONE. No one had a problem with the first one, and I don't think even the second. Come on...move on.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 16, 2012
at 12:49 AM

N=1 is but I think the problem is people's reporting. "I added pounds of sugar and lost weight!!" of course they don't tell us they stopped sneaking bite of bagel when they made their wife's breakfast. N=1 is great for yourself but I'm not sure. I know I tried the Ray Peat thing because of what people here said and it destroyed me, and yeah, I might be a touch bitter. LOL

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 16, 2012
at 12:46 AM

Harry - stop being bitter about having your threads shutdown.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 15, 2012
at 11:16 PM

@ Joy: You capture the essence of this topic so well

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 15, 2012
at 11:12 PM

I see, lets instead have a vigorous debate on the ideal thickness of a bacon slice.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 15, 2012
at 07:43 PM

@Todd - Variation on a theme is not the same as a different song. Is High-tuber, high-fruit and low-protein Paleo? Sure. Is high-fat and high protein paleo? Yes. How about Twinkie and orange Juliuses? No? I notice that you didn't list 30 Bananas a day or Ray Peat? Why not? Why not the AMA's recommended diet?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 15, 2012
at 07:40 PM

1 - Anyone can be Paleo and they can choose to not eat certain foods etc... but ice cream and twinkies aren't Paleo and if that is what you are about it isn't relevant to the site. 2 - Refinement and exploring difference within a subset is not being a yes-man. 3 - Sharing ideas is fine but poo-pooing me and promoting the health benefits of sugar is really basically trolling. 4 - Only if those points of view are relevant or worthwhile, I see where you are coming from but if I suggested you life of twinkies, wheat bread and bacon I don't think you'd explore that or even consider an argum...

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 15, 2012
at 07:36 PM

@ray - Stupid question and not what anyone said.

7c9f81d68c78de1a31eab9c91c17b4b8

on October 14, 2012
at 04:10 AM

I agree with you but would say we are not completely sure what we are evolved to eat--that's why digestive upset is a good guide for traditional Paleo or any other school of thought.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 14, 2012
at 12:56 AM

+1 to highlight that the most stupid responses get the highest rep

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on October 14, 2012
at 12:39 AM

+1 on the cheap jokes, +1 on the boobs, +1 on the bacon. dammit why can't I vote 3 times!

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on October 14, 2012
at 12:38 AM

Sorry, what's wrong with shellfish?

Ba1c998b18470309687f07606767668a

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on October 13, 2012
at 01:43 PM

Agree, but those things are not Paleo. It would be more relevant to discuss other things on a general dieting/lifestyle site, and have this specific site about Paleo focussed on Paleo. Otherwise, there's no point calling this site 'Paleo' if it's about general diet/lifestyle.

Ba1c998b18470309687f07606767668a

(161)

on October 13, 2012
at 01:40 PM

That's not strictly accurate. 'Paleo' means only eating things your body is evolved to eat. If you're eating other stuff, you're not eating paleo. I agree that eating other stuff is somewhere between 'acceptable' and 'good', if you find it's healthy, but the other stuff isn't paleo so should be labelled as something else.

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on October 13, 2012
at 01:05 PM

I agree. There is no need to be insular...

A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on October 13, 2012
at 11:31 AM

@LLM: sorry, my mistake; I revised my response to eliminate the faulty quote.

E253f8ac1d139bf4d0bfb44debd1db21

on October 11, 2012
at 09:28 PM

Best answer....

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on October 11, 2012
at 09:15 PM

I think it's a little of both, LLiM. Zeroing in on the best diet for humans today based on what we know is happening, but at the same time, n=1 is important. What works for one health-wise won't always work for another.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 11, 2012
at 05:50 PM

From my perspective the question becomes are we trying to expand and refine an understanding based on a premise, a human diet based on genetics and evolutionary theory, or are we just making stuff up based on personal biases and N=1 experimentation?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 11, 2012
at 05:47 PM

Which is my point. We have some "camps" here which have very little to do with Paleo. Yes the high-starch Vs. Low-carb get a good debate going. The pro-fruit Vs. Fructose-bad is a good debate. The diet of ice cream, shell-fish and jello who talk about getting in the "needed" supplmental white sugar isn't really drawing from the same base set of variables anymore than the few Vegans who post etc...

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 11, 2012
at 05:41 PM

Who are you quoting with "most"? That word wasn't used or implied by my OP.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 11, 2012
at 05:39 PM

Not at all. Ideologies can't grow or change. Which is the point. Paleo WAS low-carb in its modern inception. It grew because we learned. We learned because evolution was the frame work. Without that we'd just be guessing, again. Also, there isn't "A" thread. This has come up at least 4-5x just in the last 12 months. It also comes up on other forums and sites.

B3173217a49b5b0116078775a17eb21d

(11488)

on October 11, 2012
at 04:31 PM

apart from a few trolls, I honestly haven't observed much malice or dishonesty. Maybe it's a cultural thing, but I relish good honest intellectual debate. It's fine it that involves a bloody nose or two, as long as we're all prepared to kiss and make up afterwards. I post in much worse places than this.

Baa413654789b57f3579474ca7fa43d7

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on October 11, 2012
at 01:36 PM

There is no one way to follow paleo. Is Mark Sisson paleo? Is the perfect health diet paleo? How about Robb Wolf? Chris Kresser? None of them have the exact same recommendations. I agree that some are here to be spiteful trolls. That happens at every public website I've ever seen. But just because some advice differs, doesn't mean it's not all "Paleo". There may be only one Paleohacks, but there are multiple versions of paleo.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on October 11, 2012
at 11:58 AM

Who are you, Ralph Nader? ;)

6d64cd6dc98d6ab763bd03678a317964

(2177)

on October 11, 2012
at 11:35 AM

No they aren't. Malicious?!?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 10, 2012
at 09:36 PM

@Harry - Not my intention I assure you. I'm quite level-headed....really. ;)

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(10611)

on October 10, 2012
at 09:33 PM

We do not march in lockstep here, that's for sure.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 10, 2012
at 09:33 PM

The point isn't to have an authority censor people. The point is that a lot of the answers aren't a constructive difference of opinion but many are outright malicious and sometimes dishonest.

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(10611)

on October 10, 2012
at 04:22 PM

...it's not prohibited for Lutheran Scandinavian immigrants...that was my grandparents' soul food...

59fa7cd87fb9d669adf21e5cf3e7ada5

on October 10, 2012
at 04:20 PM

The Bible prohibits eating jello and shellfish at the same meal.

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on October 10, 2012
at 04:18 PM

I like the cheap jokes better than the dogma....but some of the hard core paleo speed raps are funnier than the jokes...

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on October 10, 2012
at 03:50 PM

Well, Dave, that about made me lose my breakfast. Wait, is that Paleo?

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on October 10, 2012
at 03:43 PM

Absolutely. I like the different points of view and I like the minor disagreements and find they can be as informative as the actual research out there. What I find tiresome is the beating of dead horses that seem to occur constantly. Use the fucking search bar! =)

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on October 10, 2012
at 03:40 PM

Jello, shellfish and ice cream... That's the new Ray Peat protocol, right?

B3173217a49b5b0116078775a17eb21d

(11488)

on October 10, 2012
at 03:17 PM

Isn't part of the problem is that (compared with the mainstream) paleo is kinda of a alternative lifestyle choice? Don't know about you, but I get so used to being "the guy with the unhealthy weird diet", that's it's easy to get used to disagreeing with everyone about matters nutritional (even when they are paleoers too).

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on October 10, 2012
at 03:15 PM

Help me! Help me! I'm stuck in paper bag!!!

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on October 10, 2012
at 03:14 PM

I have a recipe for orange ice cream jello with shrimp if anyone wants it...

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on October 10, 2012
at 02:58 PM

Dance puppets....dance!

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on October 10, 2012
at 02:56 PM

Actually I thought it was purely for entertainment value when I'm bored....

D1728f99db66ff91d695a6df5cd38b02

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on October 10, 2012
at 01:51 PM

BECAUSE FUCK IT THATS WHY

B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

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on October 10, 2012
at 12:58 PM

because some folks just enjoy pissing in other peoples cornflakes? it makes them feel important?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 10, 2012
at 10:17 AM

Hmm.. Isn't this question bordering on "subjective, argumentative, or requiring extended discussion".. ;)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 10, 2012
at 10:17 AM

Hmm.. Isn't this question bordering on "subjective, argumentative, or requiring extended discussion"..

Ba1c998b18470309687f07606767668a

(161)

on October 10, 2012
at 09:40 AM

Thanks for asking this question. I found this forum for advice on paleo, but recently have been noticing more and more questions relating to things that are not paleo, or to what seem to me a complete misinterpretation of the fundamental ideas of paleo.

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

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on October 10, 2012
at 08:17 AM

llm, can't answer this one personally as its not addressed to me. but you may just want to tweak the question a bit to 'get around' the "What kind of questions can I ask here?" heading under the faq, which doesn't actually mention 'eat', just 'related to'. Examples given; CrossFit, Cholesterol and blood testing, Sensitivities and allergies to gluten and other substances, Supplements like Vitamin D, fish oil etc etc,

543a65b3004bf5a51974fbdd60d666bb

(4493)

on October 10, 2012
at 08:14 AM

llm, can't answer this one personally as its not addressed to me. but you may just want to tweak the question a bit to 'get around' the "What kind of questions can I ask here?" heading under the faq, which doesn't actually mention 'eat', just 'related to' examples given; CrossFit, Cholesterol and blood testing, Sensitivities and allergies to gluten and other substances, Supplements like Vitamin D, fish oil etc etc,

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7c9f81d68c78de1a31eab9c91c17b4b8

on October 10, 2012
at 03:57 PM

Paleo evolves just like we do I guess. I think the lack of adherence to strict paleo on here (besides the trolls) is sometimes helpful. For example, since I've incorporated some Weston A Price into my Paleo I know there are other like-minded people here doing that too.

Ba1c998b18470309687f07606767668a

(161)

on October 13, 2012
at 01:40 PM

That's not strictly accurate. 'Paleo' means only eating things your body is evolved to eat. If you're eating other stuff, you're not eating paleo. I agree that eating other stuff is somewhere between 'acceptable' and 'good', if you find it's healthy, but the other stuff isn't paleo so should be labelled as something else.

7c9f81d68c78de1a31eab9c91c17b4b8

on October 14, 2012
at 04:10 AM

I agree with you but would say we are not completely sure what we are evolved to eat--that's why digestive upset is a good guide for traditional Paleo or any other school of thought.

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B3173217a49b5b0116078775a17eb21d

(11488)

on October 10, 2012
at 03:08 PM

I'm just in it to make cheap jokes about boobs and bacon (6.7k rep points worth).

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(10611)

on October 10, 2012
at 04:18 PM

I like the cheap jokes better than the dogma....but some of the hard core paleo speed raps are funnier than the jokes...

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 14, 2012
at 12:56 AM

+1 to highlight that the most stupid responses get the highest rep

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 16, 2012
at 12:46 AM

Harry - stop being bitter about having your threads shutdown.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on October 14, 2012
at 12:39 AM

+1 on the cheap jokes, +1 on the boobs, +1 on the bacon. dammit why can't I vote 3 times!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 16, 2012
at 12:13 PM

On the contrary, I'm very pleased with those questions getting shut down - particularly when they're shut down faster than troll bait. It's rather telling, don't you think?

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(10611)

on October 10, 2012
at 04:33 PM

LLM it sounds like you want a badge and a card. It's here for the give-and-take. How does Minger's article on paleo fruit collide with Taubes' fructose theory. What's paleo about leptin reset and ice baths? I don't think it's paleo to ride in planes, trains and automobiles, and index a person's paleoicity to their % foot transportation. I'm right, Minger's right and so are Taubes and Quilt if you choose to believe them. You get it all here. You also get some good food ideas.

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61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

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on October 10, 2012
at 02:42 PM

Some because they think that can "save" us (bacon, anyone?). Others because they are trolls and enjoy getting the masses riled up. Some are just so misguided and confused they wouldn't be able to find their way out of an open paper bag.

My favorites are the ones that ask a legitimate question, then argue with EVERY single answer supplied. Why ask a question if you are so closed minded?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 11, 2012
at 05:50 PM

From my perspective the question becomes are we trying to expand and refine an understanding based on a premise, a human diet based on genetics and evolutionary theory, or are we just making stuff up based on personal biases and N=1 experimentation?

B3173217a49b5b0116078775a17eb21d

(11488)

on October 10, 2012
at 03:17 PM

Isn't part of the problem is that (compared with the mainstream) paleo is kinda of a alternative lifestyle choice? Don't know about you, but I get so used to being "the guy with the unhealthy weird diet", that's it's easy to get used to disagreeing with everyone about matters nutritional (even when they are paleoers too).

A968087cc1dd66d480749c02e4619ef4

(20436)

on October 10, 2012
at 03:15 PM

Help me! Help me! I'm stuck in paper bag!!!

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on October 11, 2012
at 09:15 PM

I think it's a little of both, LLiM. Zeroing in on the best diet for humans today based on what we know is happening, but at the same time, n=1 is important. What works for one health-wise won't always work for another.

61844af1187e745e09bb394cbd28cf23

(11058)

on October 10, 2012
at 03:43 PM

Absolutely. I like the different points of view and I like the minor disagreements and find they can be as informative as the actual research out there. What I find tiresome is the beating of dead horses that seem to occur constantly. Use the fucking search bar! =)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 16, 2012
at 12:49 AM

N=1 is but I think the problem is people's reporting. "I added pounds of sugar and lost weight!!" of course they don't tell us they stopped sneaking bite of bagel when they made their wife's breakfast. N=1 is great for yourself but I'm not sure. I know I tried the Ray Peat thing because of what people here said and it destroyed me, and yeah, I might be a touch bitter. LOL

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A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on October 11, 2012
at 12:44 PM

Having participated in online forums and discussions of various types basically since the web was born, it seems to me PH actually has a pretty good signal to noise ratio overall. Also, in the ~year or so I've hung around here, I don't really detect the deterioration in the quality of discussion that others mention. (But perhaps compared over a longer period, this change seems more evident to long-timers.) Personally, PH has provided the best one-stop source for paleo info I've found, always leading me to good resources elsewhere.

The folks who disagree or don't buy the paleo philosophy often provoke good discussions, particularly when more informed people respond to them with pesuasive information, which can help new people learn more. The disagreements often push me to expand the breadth of my research (if only to satisfy myself that they are wrong). Sometimes they open my mind to new ideas.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 11, 2012
at 05:41 PM

Who are you quoting with "most"? That word wasn't used or implied by my OP.

A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on October 13, 2012
at 11:31 AM

@LLM: sorry, my mistake; I revised my response to eliminate the faulty quote.

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Cc3ce03985eac5ebcbb95fc2329f13b0

on October 10, 2012
at 05:48 PM

They're just people, doing what people do. Save yourself the stress, don't even acknowledge what bugs you about it. I just answer what questions I want, and respond to comments I think are worthwhile. I could go crazy in life, wondering why others do things I don't understand.

E253f8ac1d139bf4d0bfb44debd1db21

on October 11, 2012
at 09:28 PM

Best answer....

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7fb4e9fb1162999cdd5099fee49dd0a7

on October 10, 2012
at 02:47 PM

How else do you make progress without a fresh perspective to challenge the status quo?

Paleo is a lifestyle, not a religion.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 10, 2012
at 09:33 PM

The point isn't to have an authority censor people. The point is that a lot of the answers aren't a constructive difference of opinion but many are outright malicious and sometimes dishonest.

B3173217a49b5b0116078775a17eb21d

(11488)

on October 11, 2012
at 04:31 PM

apart from a few trolls, I honestly haven't observed much malice or dishonesty. Maybe it's a cultural thing, but I relish good honest intellectual debate. It's fine it that involves a bloody nose or two, as long as we're all prepared to kiss and make up afterwards. I post in much worse places than this.

6d64cd6dc98d6ab763bd03678a317964

(2177)

on October 11, 2012
at 11:35 AM

No they aren't. Malicious?!?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 11, 2012
at 05:47 PM

Which is my point. We have some "camps" here which have very little to do with Paleo. Yes the high-starch Vs. Low-carb get a good debate going. The pro-fruit Vs. Fructose-bad is a good debate. The diet of ice cream, shell-fish and jello who talk about getting in the "needed" supplmental white sugar isn't really drawing from the same base set of variables anymore than the few Vegans who post etc...

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 11, 2012
at 11:19 PM

"Why a Paleo site if you aren't Paleo?"

Why not?

Isn't it better to:

  • embrace a philosophy of inclusion
  • avoid the echo chamber effect
  • promote the sharing of ideas
  • explore other points of view

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on October 13, 2012
at 01:05 PM

I agree. There is no need to be insular...

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 15, 2012
at 11:12 PM

I see, lets instead have a vigorous debate on the ideal thickness of a bacon slice.

Ba1c998b18470309687f07606767668a

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on October 13, 2012
at 01:43 PM

Agree, but those things are not Paleo. It would be more relevant to discuss other things on a general dieting/lifestyle site, and have this specific site about Paleo focussed on Paleo. Otherwise, there's no point calling this site 'Paleo' if it's about general diet/lifestyle.

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on October 17, 2012
at 02:53 PM

JamesL - I agree that there are limits to what's appropriate to be on here. I'm wary though that without external views 'paleo' becomes out of touch- evolutaionry eating doesn't exist in a vacuum

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 15, 2012
at 07:40 PM

1 - Anyone can be Paleo and they can choose to not eat certain foods etc... but ice cream and twinkies aren't Paleo and if that is what you are about it isn't relevant to the site. 2 - Refinement and exploring difference within a subset is not being a yes-man. 3 - Sharing ideas is fine but poo-pooing me and promoting the health benefits of sugar is really basically trolling. 4 - Only if those points of view are relevant or worthwhile, I see where you are coming from but if I suggested you life of twinkies, wheat bread and bacon I don't think you'd explore that or even consider an argum...

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 16, 2012
at 12:52 AM

@Harry - Much more useful than suggesting that we all go vegan. Or switch to the Jello-clam-and ice cream diet. Honestly your thread about bacon was closed because it was the THIRD ONE. No one had a problem with the first one, and I don't think even the second. Come on...move on.

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7bf306ada57db47547e9da39a415edf6

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on October 11, 2012
at 01:30 PM

I looked at every answer on that evolution thread. No one said they didn't believe in evolution (I didn't check every comment). Quite a few people explained how someone who didn't believe in evolution could eat paleo. Indeed, if any of the overweight people who know me, who can see the evidence whenever they happen to look in my direction (especially if they knew me before I lost weight), I would be happy. It strikes me as a bit overkill to then bash someone over the head with - THOU MUST BELIEVE!!!! Kinda stupid when there are all sorts of people who do believe in evolution and are as unhealthy as everybody else. Mysteriously, paleo works whether you believe in evolution or not, much like so many scientific breakthroughs that came about by RANDOM CHANCE works whether or not you believe in random chance or not.

You are trying to turn this into an ideology. Think about how this site works. People ask questions. Other people try to answer. Some of us have experience, others are two days into this. If we play by your rules, there would be no new information, because it would have to get through your ideological filter first.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 11, 2012
at 05:39 PM

Not at all. Ideologies can't grow or change. Which is the point. Paleo WAS low-carb in its modern inception. It grew because we learned. We learned because evolution was the frame work. Without that we'd just be guessing, again. Also, there isn't "A" thread. This has come up at least 4-5x just in the last 12 months. It also comes up on other forums and sites.

7bf306ada57db47547e9da39a415edf6

(11214)

on October 16, 2012
at 09:30 PM

Paleo tends to be low carb. It was not low carb in its inception, but Boyd and Cordain readily admitted it was easy to be low carb while paleo, and the guess was the average paleolithic man got around 100g a day. There hasn't been any change, just a debate- the research hasn't even been done yet. This is why NuSi was created.

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on October 10, 2012
at 05:52 PM

It is called PALEOHACKS PALEO. It does annoy me a bit that I'll be looking for actual paleo advice and most of the answers are from non-paleo's advising to do a non paleo thing. I'm happy they have an opinion and advice, but there is only one PALEOHACKS where you can ask questions about paleo (which is why the site is here, right?). So not to be a snob or anything, but yes, it's bothersome to get advice from those that don't care that you're actually trying to follow paleo or those telling you paleo is bad or that all paleos are terrified of carbs. And there are other jabs made to make us feel bad = not cool. I think most of us are here to get and give helpful paleo and primal lifestyle advice. There are countless celiac disease sites and fitness sites and atkins groups and all that other stuff, so if you're into that, why not go there? There is only one PALEOHACKS. peace out.

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on October 11, 2012
at 01:36 PM

There is no one way to follow paleo. Is Mark Sisson paleo? Is the perfect health diet paleo? How about Robb Wolf? Chris Kresser? None of them have the exact same recommendations. I agree that some are here to be spiteful trolls. That happens at every public website I've ever seen. But just because some advice differs, doesn't mean it's not all "Paleo". There may be only one Paleohacks, but there are multiple versions of paleo.

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on October 10, 2012
at 09:33 PM

We do not march in lockstep here, that's for sure.

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on October 15, 2012
at 07:43 PM

@Todd - Variation on a theme is not the same as a different song. Is High-tuber, high-fruit and low-protein Paleo? Sure. Is high-fat and high protein paleo? Yes. How about Twinkie and orange Juliuses? No? I notice that you didn't list 30 Bananas a day or Ray Peat? Why not? Why not the AMA's recommended diet?

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on October 11, 2012
at 11:29 AM

Why is this site here?

After MathGirl72's answer this is what I thought.

As FoxNews is to the Republican party, PH is to bacon.

;)

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on October 11, 2012
at 11:58 AM

Who are you, Ralph Nader? ;)

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