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Whisky or wine? What's paleo?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created September 07, 2013 at 12:44 AM

I've been doing paleo about three years so far. I drink whisky and wine a lot. My friend says that I should reduce my alcohol consumption to require a total paleo lifestyle. So I have to choose between whisky and wine. What of these is more paleo/primal?

I'm looking forward to your replies.

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on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

staceychev, i have people with celiac in my family. no problem with any grain alcohol. fwiw... thhq, i don't think that's accurate, and i don't know what the point would be vis a vis gluten if it was.

Ee6932fe54ad68039a8d5f7a8caa0468

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on January 06, 2013
at 09:06 PM

we were brewing beer before whiskey, or grain alcohol. but that's not the important part. seems like we agree that there's no gluten in booze. right? right. there are no carbs in whiskey or scotch either.

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on January 06, 2013
at 02:23 PM

Distilling doesn't make wheat into an ideal food by any means, but it does eliminate the non-volatile gluten, and concentrates what's left of the carbs into a portable form stable for decades. In places like Scotland and Kentucky. This was better than leaving the excess wheat/corn/rye grain to rot in a wet climate region.

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on January 06, 2013
at 02:16 PM

I came across that nugget reading a text on antique whiskey glass, as part of an explanation for much higher whiskey consumption in the USA 200 years ago.

C657d176db6f11f98aeb2a89071e3281

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on January 06, 2013
at 06:45 AM

Here's the wine-whiskey sugar debate http://ask.metafilter.com/138018/Is-alcohol-metabolized-like-sugars-Or-something-else It might help you decide.

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on January 06, 2013
at 12:39 AM

Have you ever read Clochemerle?

Fd7283da881b9ba13cb1783b86ed7252

on January 06, 2013
at 12:11 AM

Some barrels are recycled from former beer barrels. If I am going to drink wine I have to ask about oak/steel, source, etc. Interesting, right?

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on January 06, 2013
at 12:10 AM

Whiskey was the conventional way to concentrate and store wheat before grain silos.

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on January 05, 2013
at 11:56 PM

What makes you think it's gluten?

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on January 05, 2013
at 09:15 PM

There's actually some controversy as to whether whiskey is gluten-free. There are celiacs who claim to react to it.

Fd7283da881b9ba13cb1783b86ed7252

on January 05, 2013
at 08:39 PM

Something to add about wine, depending on what barrels they use it could have trace amounts of gluten. I avoid it bc 1 out 3 times I have a reaction to it. [Celiac, Dairy, Soy and a few other intolerances. Lotto winner here]

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on January 05, 2013
at 08:37 PM

I was speaking on behalf of myself. Totally agree it is if someone wants to choose that, in which case this post is moot. =)

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on January 05, 2013
at 08:36 PM

Excellent answer!

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on January 05, 2013
at 08:05 PM

Last I checked, abstention from alcohol is an option. ;)

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on January 05, 2013
at 08:00 PM

whiskey has no sugar, wine has sugar. this is relevant if you're really scared of sugar.

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Fd7283da881b9ba13cb1783b86ed7252

on January 05, 2013
at 07:44 PM

A total paleo lifestyle wouldn't a reduction it would be an elimination, which just isn't an option. I asked Robb Wolf a while back about alcohol, Tequila and Wine are top of the list of paleo-ish friendly. That said, I am a whiskey and scotch drinker, outside of that I am fairly strict paleo [health condition requires it] and still see all the benefits. Wine does have more antioxidants like said but I personally think whiskey has more awesome-idants. =P

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on January 05, 2013
at 11:56 PM

What makes you think it's gluten?

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on January 05, 2013
at 08:05 PM

Last I checked, abstention from alcohol is an option. ;)

Fd7283da881b9ba13cb1783b86ed7252

on January 06, 2013
at 12:11 AM

Some barrels are recycled from former beer barrels. If I am going to drink wine I have to ask about oak/steel, source, etc. Interesting, right?

Fd7283da881b9ba13cb1783b86ed7252

on January 05, 2013
at 08:37 PM

I was speaking on behalf of myself. Totally agree it is if someone wants to choose that, in which case this post is moot. =)

Fd7283da881b9ba13cb1783b86ed7252

on January 05, 2013
at 08:39 PM

Something to add about wine, depending on what barrels they use it could have trace amounts of gluten. I avoid it bc 1 out 3 times I have a reaction to it. [Celiac, Dairy, Soy and a few other intolerances. Lotto winner here]

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on January 05, 2013
at 08:27 PM

Well the obvious answer is that both are neolithic and that neither is paleo.

If your real question is "which is least deleterious to my health" then I'd wager that wine is probably less harmful (per unit volume) than spirits such as whisky. In small quantities I doubt that either is bad for you (in fact either might have a hormetic effect, and be good for you).

I'm worried about two things though:

  1. You say that you drink "a lot".
  2. Your friends are telling you to reduce you alcohol consumption.

That being the case, then it's a difficult call. Lots of whisky is bad for you. Lots of wine is bad for you.

I'm kinda with Kurt Harris when he says that the first step in adopting a Paleo lifestyle is:

1. Get plenty of sleep and deal with any non- food addictions. If you're drinking a 12-pack a day, or chain-smoking, diet may help but is hardly your first priority.

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on January 05, 2013
at 08:36 PM

Excellent answer!

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on January 05, 2013
at 08:14 PM

Whiskey is made with grain; wine is made from grapes. So, I would say wine is more Paleo. Plus, cavemen could have happened upon fermenting grapes (aka wine).

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on January 06, 2013
at 12:20 AM

Choose between drinking "a lot" and respecting alcohol and drinking it in moderation.

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on January 05, 2013
at 09:02 PM

Wine always existed in nature while whiskey is a man-made product. It's obvious what is paleo :) Besides, have you ever seen severe health damage from long-term wine (only wine!) drinking?

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on January 06, 2013
at 12:39 AM

Have you ever read Clochemerle?

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on January 05, 2013
at 07:50 PM

I'm pretty sure wine has higher sugar than whisky, if only because you tend to drink less whisky (quantity-wise), so that might give it a slight edge.

Ee6932fe54ad68039a8d5f7a8caa0468

(2668)

on January 05, 2013
at 08:00 PM

whiskey has no sugar, wine has sugar. this is relevant if you're really scared of sugar.

C657d176db6f11f98aeb2a89071e3281

(842)

on January 06, 2013
at 06:45 AM

Here's the wine-whiskey sugar debate http://ask.metafilter.com/138018/Is-alcohol-metabolized-like-sugars-Or-something-else It might help you decide.

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(10601)

on January 06, 2013
at 12:07 AM

Maybe the Flintstones had a retort but a better paleo option is mead or hard cider. I've had cider ferment in a jar left in the back of my car.

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Ee6932fe54ad68039a8d5f7a8caa0468

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on January 05, 2013
at 07:33 PM

who knows what's 'paleo' anymore? i couldn't really tell you, but i drink both, and they're great. wine will have more antioxidants, so probably gets the edge. but neither have gluten, and both have a decent amount of alcohol - which is good.

Medium avatar

(10601)

on January 06, 2013
at 02:16 PM

I came across that nugget reading a text on antique whiskey glass, as part of an explanation for much higher whiskey consumption in the USA 200 years ago.

Medium avatar

(10601)

on January 06, 2013
at 12:10 AM

Whiskey was the conventional way to concentrate and store wheat before grain silos.

Ee6932fe54ad68039a8d5f7a8caa0468

(2668)

on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

staceychev, i have people with celiac in my family. no problem with any grain alcohol. fwiw... thhq, i don't think that's accurate, and i don't know what the point would be vis a vis gluten if it was.

Medium avatar

(10601)

on January 06, 2013
at 02:23 PM

Distilling doesn't make wheat into an ideal food by any means, but it does eliminate the non-volatile gluten, and concentrates what's left of the carbs into a portable form stable for decades. In places like Scotland and Kentucky. This was better than leaving the excess wheat/corn/rye grain to rot in a wet climate region.

C2450eb7fa11b37473599caf93b461ef

(3225)

on January 05, 2013
at 09:15 PM

There's actually some controversy as to whether whiskey is gluten-free. There are celiacs who claim to react to it.

Ee6932fe54ad68039a8d5f7a8caa0468

(2668)

on January 06, 2013
at 09:06 PM

we were brewing beer before whiskey, or grain alcohol. but that's not the important part. seems like we agree that there's no gluten in booze. right? right. there are no carbs in whiskey or scotch either.

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