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Which foods would you forbid?

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Created December 17, 2010 at 3:20 AM

This is a serious question, although definitely hypothetical in nature: if you were made "Kings for a day" with full powers (as Sancho Panza was once promised to be by El Quijote) , which foods would you forbid, based on their devastating effects on human health: Pizza, pasta, sodas, whisky, hamburgers, chips, or what?

D64a0ae059bb55a0881236bb60f81f7e

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on March 12, 2011
at 05:07 PM

Forgot to mention concentrated unfermented Soy.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on January 29, 2011
at 04:49 AM

Okay I changed my comment to "in my opinion" since people were voting me down, I personally avoid butter and dairy but don't think it's bad for everyone.

A68f24168bc0de414a038037e287b581

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on January 29, 2011
at 04:15 AM

People are attacked with dozens of misleading and confusing data each day, when they try to be responsible and eat "healthy", it doesn't help much. The best would be to stop preach to people and telling them what to eat, and especially treat fat people like lost children.

7df8f3cc7f1475c3ecbbd4a4feb87d04

(514)

on January 29, 2011
at 03:58 AM

Good in theory, but what about the reality of healthcare costs, not to mention higher fuel costs for planes and use of resources in general as well as the need for supersizing seats, ambulances, etc...

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on January 29, 2011
at 12:39 AM

I agree, modderbaard. Leave the dogma and myopia to the vegans.

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on January 29, 2011
at 12:35 AM

I'm not better adapted to gluten. Bottom line: Paleo is not about dictating exactly what people should eat. Let the vegans remain in the land of dogma.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on January 28, 2011
at 10:22 PM

Northern Europeans may be adapted to dairy better than other people because they have consumed it so long, but also they are adapted better to gluten containing grains. Doesn't neccesarily mean they should be eating it. Doesn't Scandinavia have lots of suicide and depression rates? Could be the lack of vitamin D...but they eat lots of fish. I blame the dairy haha = )

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on January 28, 2011
at 09:02 PM

I'm descended from northern Europeans and I have no problems with dairy.

101b3a5c96d313d22262f65bdff20acf

(539)

on January 28, 2011
at 06:36 PM

Hey now. Nothing wrong with whiskey. Plus one to modderbaard's comment.

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on January 28, 2011
at 05:11 PM

Funny! But now I have the "Kill da wabbit" song going through my head because I'm thinking about the Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd opera cartoon. :-))

Ac1e55cf06c2180f4008ff01953d10dd

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on January 28, 2011
at 05:06 PM

I know casein is horrible tough I understand that butter has only negligible amount of casein

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on January 28, 2011
at 03:44 PM

Actually I think ghee may be okay because it removes all casein and lactose, I've been thinking about making it sometime.

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

(7304)

on January 28, 2011
at 12:26 PM

What about ghee? Ghee wouldn't have the bad stuff, but would still have saturated fat and antioxidants, especially if pastured. And honestly, I love raw cream. It is my favorite food. I don't really care if it's not "paleo", it's better than a cookie. I also like to use stevia. Sue me.

A89f9751a97c3082802dc0bcbe4e9208

(13978)

on January 28, 2011
at 05:47 AM

LOL!! I hated raisins that were baked in anything, as a kid.

1d952d225819b0229e93160a90bf9bf8

(1600)

on December 18, 2010
at 03:35 PM

Last I heard,they were nearing ten dollars a pack there, so not surprised.That's fifty to one hundred dollars on cigarettes a week,depending on how much you smoke. Tobacco is another example of society not grasping the concepts of self control,common sense and personal responsibility.Smoking pure tobacco,not treated with chemicals,on occasion,can be very enjoyable.But three packs a day of cigarettes loaded with toxic, addictive fillers?Duh that's a bad idea, and probably won't have pleasant results.

6426d61a13689f8f651164b10f121d64

(11478)

on December 18, 2010
at 01:34 PM

I forget where, but I read recently that there are more black market cigarettes sold in NYC than "legitimate" cigarettes.

95601768ec9cb75cc3a9cbcd2271ed14

(2206)

on December 17, 2010
at 07:20 PM

HA! I have hated raisins since I was a little kid and have probably said worse things about them. One really convenient thing about not eating sugar anymore is no longer feeling bad about looking deflated when I bite into a cookie I thought had chocolate chips in them only to find out it is actually raisins and making my relatives or friends feel bad.

95601768ec9cb75cc3a9cbcd2271ed14

(2206)

on December 17, 2010
at 07:18 PM

HA! I have hated raisins since I was a little kid and have probably called them worse things about them. One really convenient thing about not eating sugar anymore is no more feeling bad about looking deflated when I bite into a cookie I thought had chocolate chips in them only to find out it is actually raisins.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on December 17, 2010
at 06:34 PM

Olive is a fruit. I wouldn't cook with it tho, a very low smoke point

Ac1e55cf06c2180f4008ff01953d10dd

(3524)

on December 17, 2010
at 04:32 PM

Thanks for your answer Looska, I am sorry about your sister. I think in our imaginary kingdom there could be a good case to forbid, at least high grade alcoholic beverages, such as whisky,ron,gin or vodka. But I would never ban wine or beer, again, in such hypothetical situation

Ac1e55cf06c2180f4008ff01953d10dd

(3524)

on December 17, 2010
at 04:31 PM

Thanks for your answer Looska, I am sorry about your sister. I think in our imaginary kingdom there could be a good case to forbid, at least high grade alcoholic beverages, such as whisky,ron,gin or vodka. But I would not never ban wine or beer, again, in such hypothetical situation.

C0fcb48d7da4f76fac17318efd2cd6b8

(4069)

on December 17, 2010
at 03:11 PM

I was not kind of like saying guns kill people. In fact they do, with people pulling the triggers, just like alcohol, with people pouring it down their throats.

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on December 17, 2010
at 02:15 PM

I will never look at raisins the same way again.

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on December 17, 2010
at 02:14 PM

Exactly. I don't want anyone to take away my red wine. Some people feel it's poison, but I'll take it over bread every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Literally.

6426d61a13689f8f651164b10f121d64

(11478)

on December 17, 2010
at 01:59 PM

@Carl, RE raisins, ROFLMAO!

B28d069e6a3b5b6ef68776db4ed8ef64

(505)

on December 17, 2010
at 12:00 PM

I like this answer, Ed. This is a huge issue. The general public might actually be healthier if they simply took responsibility for what they put in their own bodies.

1cbb6b2a813475d6c0b17fd5e898dc50

(1248)

on December 17, 2010
at 11:58 AM

I'm sorry for your loss. That's kind of like saying guns kill people though, isn't it?

1cbb6b2a813475d6c0b17fd5e898dc50

(1248)

on December 17, 2010
at 11:56 AM

Yes these four for me, plus corn and the billion chemicals made with it!

1cbb6b2a813475d6c0b17fd5e898dc50

(1248)

on December 17, 2010
at 11:55 AM

Very insightful!

2d372dd8feff8c88d788095011eebbfa

(293)

on December 17, 2010
at 07:54 AM

This is going in the wrong direction. What are we? Vegans??

B4aa2df25a6bf17d22556667ff896170

(851)

on December 17, 2010
at 03:55 AM

id go with trans fat

95601768ec9cb75cc3a9cbcd2271ed14

(2206)

on December 17, 2010
at 03:49 AM

Very well put, Eva.

Ac1e55cf06c2180f4008ff01953d10dd

(3524)

on December 17, 2010
at 03:38 AM

Stephen would you also forbid olive oil? I think that one is pretty healthy...

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6426d61a13689f8f651164b10f121d64

(11478)

on December 17, 2010
at 04:16 AM

I would ban the entitlement mentality in my kingdom--

You can eat, drink or smoke whatever you want, but you pay for the damage yourself.

B28d069e6a3b5b6ef68776db4ed8ef64

(505)

on December 17, 2010
at 12:00 PM

I like this answer, Ed. This is a huge issue. The general public might actually be healthier if they simply took responsibility for what they put in their own bodies.

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on December 17, 2010
at 02:14 PM

Exactly. I don't want anyone to take away my red wine. Some people feel it's poison, but I'll take it over bread every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Literally.

A68f24168bc0de414a038037e287b581

(4896)

on January 29, 2011
at 04:15 AM

People are attacked with dozens of misleading and confusing data each day, when they try to be responsible and eat "healthy", it doesn't help much. The best would be to stop preach to people and telling them what to eat, and especially treat fat people like lost children.

7df8f3cc7f1475c3ecbbd4a4feb87d04

(514)

on January 29, 2011
at 03:58 AM

Good in theory, but what about the reality of healthcare costs, not to mention higher fuel costs for planes and use of resources in general as well as the need for supersizing seats, ambulances, etc...

10
A089b683ee0498f2b21b7edfa300e405

on December 17, 2010
at 04:33 AM

The very fact that kings can decide what the subjects can eat or not is the reason for the creation of the US Govt. "food pyramid" and the subsequent health catastrophe. I would just leave everyone alone and listen to my own body.

1cbb6b2a813475d6c0b17fd5e898dc50

(1248)

on December 17, 2010
at 11:55 AM

Very insightful!

8
Ef9f83cb4e1826261a44c173f733789e

on December 17, 2010
at 01:02 PM

First my serious answer: I wouldn't ban anything. I would end all subsidies and restrictions and only enforce truth-in-labeling laws.

But if I were King, I would ban raisins. Raisins are nothing more than the turds from Satan's pet bunny rabbit.

531db50c958cf4d5605ee0c5ae8a57be

(8878)

on December 17, 2010
at 02:15 PM

I will never look at raisins the same way again.

95601768ec9cb75cc3a9cbcd2271ed14

(2206)

on December 17, 2010
at 07:18 PM

HA! I have hated raisins since I was a little kid and have probably called them worse things about them. One really convenient thing about not eating sugar anymore is no more feeling bad about looking deflated when I bite into a cookie I thought had chocolate chips in them only to find out it is actually raisins.

6426d61a13689f8f651164b10f121d64

(11478)

on December 17, 2010
at 01:59 PM

@Carl, RE raisins, ROFLMAO!

95601768ec9cb75cc3a9cbcd2271ed14

(2206)

on December 17, 2010
at 07:20 PM

HA! I have hated raisins since I was a little kid and have probably said worse things about them. One really convenient thing about not eating sugar anymore is no longer feeling bad about looking deflated when I bite into a cookie I thought had chocolate chips in them only to find out it is actually raisins and making my relatives or friends feel bad.

A89f9751a97c3082802dc0bcbe4e9208

(13978)

on January 28, 2011
at 05:47 AM

LOL!! I hated raisins that were baked in anything, as a kid.

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on January 28, 2011
at 05:11 PM

Funny! But now I have the "Kill da wabbit" song going through my head because I'm thinking about the Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd opera cartoon. :-))

5
62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on December 17, 2010
at 03:33 AM

I'd add unnatural sugar in general like table sugar. Of course, people would probably just compensate by sucking down unnatural amounts of honey instead. I guess that's why rules can never substitute for knowledge and commitment.

95601768ec9cb75cc3a9cbcd2271ed14

(2206)

on December 17, 2010
at 03:49 AM

Very well put, Eva.

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22212e9ba2a041e6da6c963d4d41615a

(5773)

on December 17, 2010
at 01:21 PM

You can ban it, but if someone really wants it they will get it or find some alternative that is just as bad or worse. I agree with some to let people make their own choices and I wouldn't ban anything. Personal responsibility is a lost art in society and I wouldn't want to add fuel to that fire.

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1d952d225819b0229e93160a90bf9bf8

on December 17, 2010
at 12:57 PM

I would ban corn as a food substance for humans or animals.Unfortunately,banning things really only leads to black markets and crime.Can you picture someone buying Fritos and a soda in a back alley,looking out for the cops?

6426d61a13689f8f651164b10f121d64

(11478)

on December 18, 2010
at 01:34 PM

I forget where, but I read recently that there are more black market cigarettes sold in NYC than "legitimate" cigarettes.

1d952d225819b0229e93160a90bf9bf8

(1600)

on December 18, 2010
at 03:35 PM

Last I heard,they were nearing ten dollars a pack there, so not surprised.That's fifty to one hundred dollars on cigarettes a week,depending on how much you smoke. Tobacco is another example of society not grasping the concepts of self control,common sense and personal responsibility.Smoking pure tobacco,not treated with chemicals,on occasion,can be very enjoyable.But three packs a day of cigarettes loaded with toxic, addictive fillers?Duh that's a bad idea, and probably won't have pleasant results.

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4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

on December 17, 2010
at 03:30 AM

The Four Horsemen.

Wheat

Fructose

Soy

Vegetable Oils.

1cbb6b2a813475d6c0b17fd5e898dc50

(1248)

on December 17, 2010
at 11:56 AM

Yes these four for me, plus corn and the billion chemicals made with it!

Ac1e55cf06c2180f4008ff01953d10dd

(3524)

on December 17, 2010
at 03:38 AM

Stephen would you also forbid olive oil? I think that one is pretty healthy...

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22913)

on December 17, 2010
at 06:34 PM

Olive is a fruit. I wouldn't cook with it tho, a very low smoke point

2
95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on January 28, 2011
at 04:33 PM

I wouldn't ban anything. Instead, I would step down immediately and pass out copies of "Yertle The Turtle" to all that I could see.

2
8287c6ddae0d78eae0a09fdd5999617c

(2581)

on January 28, 2011
at 05:43 AM

I would ban partially hydrogenated oils. They are pointless and nobody actually wants to eat them. People won't really care if it disappears from the food supply.

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Cfccbcf3450ac4919311ded8ef162d49

(2312)

on December 17, 2010
at 04:36 AM

Well since this is a paleo site - wheat. That would take care of a lot. OK, maybe corn, too.

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C0fcb48d7da4f76fac17318efd2cd6b8

on December 17, 2010
at 04:07 AM

Alcohol. Killed my sister, kills tens of thousands, ruins lives. Yep, alcohol, that's what I'd ban. Sorry.

1cbb6b2a813475d6c0b17fd5e898dc50

(1248)

on December 17, 2010
at 11:58 AM

I'm sorry for your loss. That's kind of like saying guns kill people though, isn't it?

Ac1e55cf06c2180f4008ff01953d10dd

(3524)

on December 17, 2010
at 04:32 PM

Thanks for your answer Looska, I am sorry about your sister. I think in our imaginary kingdom there could be a good case to forbid, at least high grade alcoholic beverages, such as whisky,ron,gin or vodka. But I would never ban wine or beer, again, in such hypothetical situation

C0fcb48d7da4f76fac17318efd2cd6b8

(4069)

on December 17, 2010
at 03:11 PM

I was not kind of like saying guns kill people. In fact they do, with people pulling the triggers, just like alcohol, with people pouring it down their throats.

Ac1e55cf06c2180f4008ff01953d10dd

(3524)

on December 17, 2010
at 04:31 PM

Thanks for your answer Looska, I am sorry about your sister. I think in our imaginary kingdom there could be a good case to forbid, at least high grade alcoholic beverages, such as whisky,ron,gin or vodka. But I would not never ban wine or beer, again, in such hypothetical situation.

2
Aead76beb5fc7b762a6b4ddc234f6051

(15239)

on December 17, 2010
at 04:01 AM

corn, and everything derived from it.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on December 22, 2010
at 01:31 AM

beside the evils, i m very cautious on sweet fruits. and any mass farmed fruits.

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E2b9c679315c7c9c7265783dde89f350

on December 17, 2010
at 07:42 PM

Unfermented soy. Wheat and corn tend to be a problem in large amounts, but soy is much more insidious and is generally believed to be more of a health food than even whole grains, which makes it even more dangerous. Not to mention that it causes damage more quickly and in smaller amounts than almost any other food or food-like substance.

1
E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

(15613)

on December 17, 2010
at 11:52 AM

If we're banning foods then I'd go with bread, which is probably the most widely consumed of unpaleo foods and is eaten habitually (not just occasionally, like hamburgers) and displaces large amounts of actual food from people's diets. If we're allowing food substances then I might be tempted to go for vegetable oil, rather than wheat, because it allows the creation of innumerable processed monstrosities and without it people wanting to eat fat would have to go for animal sources (as McDonalds did until relatively recently).

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D64a0ae059bb55a0881236bb60f81f7e

(204)

on December 17, 2010
at 03:58 AM

Tobacco

High fructose corn syrup

White flour

Bakeries

Anything deep fried

D64a0ae059bb55a0881236bb60f81f7e

(204)

on March 12, 2011
at 05:07 PM

Forgot to mention concentrated unfermented Soy.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on January 28, 2011
at 05:26 AM

I forbid all dairy, including butter.

In my opinion it's extremely unpaleo to eat just like grains. Casein(the protein with morphine-like drug effects) is similar to the morphine-like substance in gluten containing grains. They are the reason why hunter-gatherers sought out grains even though they lack nutrition. Basically they were liking the comforting opiod!

No animal on earth eats or drinks milk of other animals.

Virgin Coconut Oil is a much better saturated fat in my opinion. And it's totally paleo.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on January 29, 2011
at 04:49 AM

Okay I changed my comment to "in my opinion" since people were voting me down, I personally avoid butter and dairy but don't think it's bad for everyone.

Ac1e55cf06c2180f4008ff01953d10dd

(3524)

on January 28, 2011
at 05:06 PM

I know casein is horrible tough I understand that butter has only negligible amount of casein

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on January 28, 2011
at 09:02 PM

I'm descended from northern Europeans and I have no problems with dairy.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on January 28, 2011
at 10:22 PM

Northern Europeans may be adapted to dairy better than other people because they have consumed it so long, but also they are adapted better to gluten containing grains. Doesn't neccesarily mean they should be eating it. Doesn't Scandinavia have lots of suicide and depression rates? Could be the lack of vitamin D...but they eat lots of fish. I blame the dairy haha = )

95eda9fa0cec952b482e869c34a566b6

on January 29, 2011
at 12:35 AM

I'm not better adapted to gluten. Bottom line: Paleo is not about dictating exactly what people should eat. Let the vegans remain in the land of dogma.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on January 28, 2011
at 03:44 PM

Actually I think ghee may be okay because it removes all casein and lactose, I've been thinking about making it sometime.

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

(7304)

on January 28, 2011
at 12:26 PM

What about ghee? Ghee wouldn't have the bad stuff, but would still have saturated fat and antioxidants, especially if pastured. And honestly, I love raw cream. It is my favorite food. I don't really care if it's not "paleo", it's better than a cookie. I also like to use stevia. Sue me.

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