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What is the biggest downside to being Paleo?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created May 09, 2010 at 2:07 AM

There are many great aspects to going Paleo like being healthy, looking and feeling better, etc, but there are also a lot of downsides for some people. What has been hard for you in your transition to Paleo (social pressure, various lifestyle changes, missing certain foods, etc)? How have you dealt with it?

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on May 25, 2014
at 03:10 PM

agree with everyone and have to add... hate that attitude you get when you decline to eat the crap at the staff meeting/impromptu celebration/kid's birthday party/etc. like you are deliberately trying to show off how "healthy" you are and highlight how "bad" they are being, and you are ruining the party vibe, and instead of being able to gorge blithely en masse they now feel guilty and resent you.

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on May 25, 2014
at 01:01 PM

One downside I'm reminded of every morning is how most of my pants don't fit anymore. It's actually not a downside physically, but now I either need to do some shopping or look around for what I used to wear in high school.

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on October 27, 2013
at 06:18 AM

Also, the expense. I see my colleagues grabbing a candy bar as a snack from the local discount grocery store for $.25 and I'm eating a Larabar I bought for $1.25. And they feel totally ok with eating Cup of Noodles and a hardboiled egg for lunch...I think one can do Paleo on a "budget", but there's no doubt a carb-focused SAD diet (say, toast with butter for breakfast, a ham sandwich for lunch and spaghetti for dinner) is cheaper. Beans and grains, two things we don't eat, are known as the foods of college kids for a reason

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on April 23, 2012
at 01:35 PM

I think I was trapped in this as well. I was trying really hard to enter ketosis and eating high fat and I felt awful on it.

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on April 08, 2012
at 05:09 AM

Eating these foods doesn't make me feel any different. I wish it did--it would make going without them so much easier if I could console myself with the fact that they would make me sick. Instead I have to be all "it's the right thing to do" about it. And once in awhile, that's not enough....

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on April 08, 2012
at 05:06 AM

One good sized sweet potato (I favor those purple ones that are white inside--not as sweet) sliced thinly and deep fried in coconut oil, salted generously afterward, produces about the same quantity as a bag of potato chips, and is about as satisfying, at least to me. Whether that's much healthier than doing the same thing with a regular potato, I'm not so sure. But either way, it's true that it's more effort than buying a bag at the store. But then, all of my cooking requires more effort now that I don't buy anything premade. I don't find it burdensome--if I want the treat, I do the work.

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on April 07, 2012
at 11:25 PM

Love this. I think I've been listening to advice that works for the obese. No wonder it's not working for me to just tone up a bit.

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on April 07, 2012
at 11:22 PM

Amen. Paleo has made me reclusive

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on April 07, 2012
at 09:17 PM

"cheating" with a gluten free pizza isn't so bad. In Chico, CA we have 3 local pizza places that serve GF crusts.....yeah, yeah, I know, not the same, but also not too bad either.

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on April 07, 2012
at 08:08 PM

'I just want to be able to go through life eating food for food and not being obsessive over it and thinking about binging what feels like every waking moment.' I'm struggling the same problem. Be strong! x

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on April 07, 2012
at 07:04 PM

Physical health, longetivity, appearance...all of the possible benefits come AFTER mental clarity. I don't care if paleo doesn't extend my life, or if I don't look amazing. Goshdarnit, I just want to be able to go through life eating food for food and not being obsessive over it and thinking about binging what feels like every waking moment.

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on April 07, 2012
at 05:35 PM

O Portland. The tired joke. The antidote for me: wearing bright colors, eating an entire roasted chicken at New Seasons in plain view, carrying a purse made out of raccoon (face still attached), and speaking loudly and at Stumptown.

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on April 07, 2012
at 05:23 PM

Well, I'm on the paleo diet, and so is my husband, but changing the eating habits of my kids is going to take a bit longer I reckon. Its the social pressure that is hard - they are surrounded by kids eating total rubbish all the time. I guess they are verging more towards Weston Price than Paleo right now, with occasional junk thrown in. But I'm hoping that as they get older they will want to follow our example! As you said GHarkness and jpet. I'd rather do it that way because if its their choice they are more likely to stick to it in the long run.

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on April 07, 2012
at 05:22 PM

I always have macadamia nuts in my purse... Always. Might be easier because, as a girl, I always have a purse on me!

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on April 07, 2012
at 05:19 PM

If you make some meals for your family they will also appreciate your thoughtfulness and you get to control the ingredients!

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on April 07, 2012
at 05:17 PM

Canyou share some examples of the price you pay for standard items like eggs, gf meat, etc? I'm fascinated by the very different food prices around the world.

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on April 07, 2012
at 05:09 PM

Sometimes it's not about thenumber on the scale, but the other changes related to health that count. My skin is clear for the first tome in my life, I have energy through the roof and I slee soundly. I highly recommend you consider doing a whole30 challenge, and see what changes you see :)

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on April 07, 2012
at 05:07 PM

While it mightn't be appropriate in every situation, I do tell people my bowels have improved. This is often an issue for people, and they tend to be very interested in learning how to make changes to achieve regular movements of their own. If you are 'cheating' with things like cookies, this could in part be why you're not achieving the same changes. I was gluten free for 8 years, but sometimes made gluten free baking laden with sweetener ( I went between sugar, agave, honey and maple syrup) until I cut those out, my body was still inflamed and held on to a bit of puff.

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on April 07, 2012
at 03:55 PM

I am in public schools daily. I have to avoid the cafeteria.

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on April 07, 2012
at 01:32 PM

Amen. This is seriously one of the hardest things. So many health problems and I swear diet is the culprit. Makes me feel kind of helpless some days.

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on January 19, 2012
at 03:18 AM

The claims made by many good quality studies mention how eating a certain food inhibits DNA synthesis, causes cells to divide significantly, or something like that and then I see that these claims are not disproven: and the amount of inhibition isn't enough to sound off alarms but it is still enough in amount, I want to avoid that certain food.

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on January 19, 2012
at 03:15 AM

Well he more yells at me then worries lol. I just have been eating what I feel is right: I get over 110 grams of protein a day and over 100 in meat protein. A little over a hundred grams of fat and around 120 grams of carbs a day so I don't really have a problem with eating I just limit foods with significant natural toxins or aggressive lectins is all. I don't limit too many foods though I do limit a good amount lol: I do it out of whether or not I need to take the risk for my health and often times its no as I am full for my nutrition needs. But I see your point: just when I see some of

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on January 18, 2012
at 07:58 AM

Matt, from your other answers and questions here it sounds you are greatly restricting the foods you eat for rather theoretical reasons. Maybe if you are not eating enough it is understandable that you dad is worried about you?

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on January 16, 2012
at 04:27 PM

Try making a whole bag of potato chips. It'll take lots of time and lots of effort. That's why I miss potato chips too... It was my favorite food of all. I wish potato chips grew on the trees.

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on January 16, 2012
at 10:37 AM

I just hate knowing so much. Every time someone says some supposed "health or nutrition" advise at work I want to argue with them so bad.

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on January 16, 2012
at 10:21 AM

Why give up risotto? I save chicken, bacon and mushroom risotto for the big training days. Also, cassoulet, biryani, these can both be paleo friendly. I love to cook and you if you are using top quality ingredients and some imagination and kitchen skills you can still have most of the classics

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on January 16, 2012
at 09:18 AM

Unfortunately, most of this goes back to our cultural heritage: overweight = wealthy, thin = poor -- and then combine that with our inherited clichés, "Healthy, wealthy, and wise" ...

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on January 16, 2012
at 09:14 AM

Sounds like the beginning of a joke: Psst, look at that paleo guy over there, he just sucked the tomato sauce off the spaghetti and then threw it out!

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on December 24, 2010
at 04:31 PM

You need a doctors note. My son doesn't have an "medical" allergy.

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on December 24, 2010
at 04:29 AM

I like that idea! Maybe people will stop offering me cookies and candy to "tempt" me!

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on December 23, 2010
at 11:51 PM

It's not tough, really. I'm 15 and managing just fine with a highly uncooperative family. Ask if you can go to the grocery store and buy things you need or make a list. Make sure your mom knows what you will/won't eat, but do not preach. And learn to cook if you haven't already, it will be a very handy skill to have when you need to eat and everyone else is having pizza.

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on December 23, 2010
at 09:07 PM

Oh David! This is hard for me too. I guess I've just had to let go. Lecturing doesn't help. In fact, the best way I've found to inspire people to change is just BE the example.

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on December 23, 2010
at 08:53 PM

I was still having an occasional beer for a while, but I can't stomach it anymore. Makes me feel like crap within 10 minutes. Probably a good thing anyway.

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on December 23, 2010
at 08:49 PM

I've had the 'coconut bliss' brand before as well. It's pretty good, but I would prefer they just use raw cane sugar instead of the agave nectar. MikeD is right, agave nectar is _mostly_ fructose.

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on December 23, 2010
at 08:26 PM

See above comment. Can't you just tell the school that your child is on a prescribed diet?? They have to have allowances for religious or medical reasons.

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on December 23, 2010
at 08:24 PM

I really do miss a good Smithwicks after work on Friday...

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on December 23, 2010
at 07:10 AM

I used to eat ice cream by the litre. What I do now is crush up 25 g of dark chocolate, add 3 or 4 peach slices, and service with lashings of cream.

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on August 22, 2010
at 06:50 PM

Being a masochist is the only way I can get myself to run sprints Alan... ;) J/K!

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on August 22, 2010
at 01:35 PM

That's funny. Beer was one of the first things to go almost two years ago now and I don't miss it one little bit. In fact I never even think about it.

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on August 22, 2010
at 01:22 PM

The right fuel to do life.

5de2fffda92c0bf2be7ede10cad55546

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on August 22, 2010
at 01:21 PM

My solution is to have something to eat before you go or better still, simply make it a fast day till you get home.

5de2fffda92c0bf2be7ede10cad55546

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on August 22, 2010
at 01:10 PM

Why the re-enactment? Just leave them behind and find better foods. "Invent" something new and make it yours.

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on August 22, 2010
at 01:08 PM

If you hate it, don't do it.. Simple. Only a masochist would keep doing something that makes them feel awful.

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on August 21, 2010
at 04:32 AM

agave syrup is pretty much sugar by another name. i believe its all fructose.

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on August 20, 2010
at 10:49 PM

I was reading through these thinking. It's beer. I love beer and have had an easy time giving up everything neolithic except beer. Beautiful hoppy glorious craft beer. Sigh.

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on August 20, 2010
at 09:22 PM

You know the bun is probably the worst offender, I would say you have talked someone into making a pretty darn good change, even if she does have a little sugary beverage on the side. Praise to you and her!

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on August 20, 2010
at 09:13 PM

I still eat Potato Chips

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on July 04, 2010
at 06:40 PM

Yes, and watching friends/family eat garbage, or things that I know re exacerbating certain health issues, and not being able to intervene. I've learned (the hard way) that going on and on about food and quoting studies does nothing at all to get ppl to listen to you!

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on July 04, 2010
at 12:30 PM

and squash chips! Just throw slices in the dehydrator.

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on June 10, 2010
at 09:37 PM

Kale chips work also!!!!

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on June 05, 2010
at 04:18 PM

-1? Huh. Am I too wordy, sarcastic, what?

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on June 03, 2010
at 08:58 PM

I don't know if you can find it in your neck of the woods, but I recently discovered Coconut Bliss, an "ice cream" made from coconut milk, no sugar (though does use agave syrup). VERY delicious, good for a treat.

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on May 23, 2010
at 11:51 PM

Surprisingly, you are the first to mention alcohol out of 22 respondents.

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on May 23, 2010
at 11:49 PM

My roommate constantly harangues me for my eating yet she smokes, eats pastries, ice cream, or cookies, on a daily basis. I just learned that my mother-in-law has expressed concern over my meat consumption, yet she has type 2 diabetes and hasn't slowed down her carb/sugar intake. We all feel you, 42!

5de2fffda92c0bf2be7ede10cad55546

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on May 23, 2010
at 07:45 AM

No point in beating your self up, I just see it as a perfect opportunity for a fast. No reason to eat rubbish just because everyone else is.

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on May 22, 2010
at 09:01 PM

Potato chips can be easily made. Just fry potato slices in coconut oil or lard, then season accordingly. I did this and they turned out amazing -- a little too amazing (ate em all in one sitting).

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on May 22, 2010
at 06:45 PM

Meanwhile they smoke...

A1a4882d31414600b2cab395a5b17161

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on May 22, 2010
at 06:44 PM

I am in Toronto and I've had people talk to me like I was out of my mind for going barefoot. They think I am going to step on an AIDS needle or pick up some disease.

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on May 22, 2010
at 06:43 PM

I find that fewer young people have TVs since you can watch a lot of content on the internet.

A1a4882d31414600b2cab395a5b17161

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on May 22, 2010
at 06:42 PM

Whenever I go on a trip I make sure to load up on high fat and protein meal before I leave so I won't be hungry during the trip.

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on May 22, 2010
at 04:23 PM

This is definitely the hardest part, especially when those children are MY grandchildren. I love them so, and I see the results of the neolithic diet on their bodies, but as a non-meddler, I can only hope that their parents (or they, as they get older) will eventually take note and at least question what they are doing to themselves. But then again, I was in my 50's before I realized there was a connection between diet and health (OK, OK I'm stupid - but that was just not taught to me when I was growing up!)

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on May 22, 2010
at 04:20 PM

Many people do these things in steps. Every step in the right direction....is a step in the right direction :-) You never know what she might try next. Sometimes it takes years....but it's better than NO improvement in diet, right? Encourage her, and when she is ready, she'll take the next step.

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on May 21, 2010
at 07:53 PM

I cringe all day long... :(

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on May 21, 2010
at 06:51 PM

Itza Meatza! Freetheanimal had a great idea, meatza is awesome

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on May 10, 2010
at 11:56 PM

Even a little change is good!! Maybe she'll cut things out and realize she feels better!!

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on May 10, 2010
at 10:29 PM

Ha exactly Aaron. I remember back in December when I was living with my parents for winter break (I started doing paleo during the semester before said break so they had not been aware of the lifestyle change). I told them about the diet, and after sticking with it for a few weeks, feeling and looking great, one day my dad came up to me and said "I think it's time you start incorporating some healthy whole grains back into your diet." I didn't want to roll my eyes or anything because he's my father and I respect him...but...come on. Do some research.

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on May 10, 2010
at 08:17 PM

"But what about fiber and healthy whole grains??!!" HAH

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on May 10, 2010
at 07:30 AM

I also don't have a television - and people I know seem to thin k that is MUCH more abnormal than not eating grains / pulses / potatoes!

A1a4882d31414600b2cab395a5b17161

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on May 10, 2010
at 05:11 AM

That's a good point. I don't think it helps being hard on yourself.

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on May 10, 2010
at 04:14 AM

I do that too AuH2Ogirl, I try not to be judgmental, but it just happens.

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on May 10, 2010
at 02:17 AM

I find the same thing about not wanting to offend people, and also being starving when there is only junk to eat. So sometimes I just have a token amount of the birthday cake or whatever, and a lot of times I bring along food that I can eat - carrot sticks and paleo dip, frittata, antipasti etc.

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on May 10, 2010
at 02:01 AM

yea, its important to mention declining food i think has been a taboo since the beginning of time for humans. it shouldn't be taken personal, of course, but it often is. a simple effective face-saving way out is to say that you're allergic or have some kind of doctor's orders. in some modern cultures it can be considered extremely rude, much moreso than in the more western world, not to accept something like a food offering.

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on May 10, 2010
at 01:48 AM

is it possible that eating pizza/burritos have always made you feel bad, but that back then you were just more accustomed to the pain?

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on May 09, 2010
at 11:02 PM

I think when you turn down food, people tend to think you are rejecting *them*. Food is very personal. It's good to find ways to praise people's generosity and presentation without actually partaking. Distract them with a compliment, ask them a question about their garnish, the pretty china, anything, and perhaps folks won't notice that you're not actually eating the proffered dish.

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on May 09, 2010
at 08:54 PM

Ah... Yes. There is a difference. :)

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on May 09, 2010
at 08:53 PM

Love that pepperoni chips idea Anna! Thanks!

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on May 09, 2010
at 06:06 PM

@AnnaA, I absolutely love Meatza! All the deliciousness of Pizza without the bloating.

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on May 09, 2010
at 02:33 PM

And gilliebean, I make pepperoni chips when I get craving potato chips. Buy a package of thin-sliced pepperoni and bake it at about 325- 350 until the chips get dried out (they crisp up as they cool).

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on May 09, 2010
at 02:30 PM

Hey Matt, have you tried Meatza? When Richard N. had it on his site I made it and it is very filling.

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on May 09, 2010
at 01:42 PM

This. And my compulsive habit of looking at others' shopping baskets.

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on May 09, 2010
at 01:30 PM

My sister (the lone sibling) is overweight, and probably obese (though I wouldn't exact know the dividing line between one and another). The rest of my family is not overweight; oddly enough, they've all had (or have) some sort of cancer. Gillie, I understand where you're coming from -- but this is serious concern on her part, not just slightly worrisome nagging. :)

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on May 09, 2010
at 11:58 AM

Agreed, I've had all my family members complain that I'm 'anorexic' because you can see my abs and lower ribs. It's ridiculous how much cultural notions of size vary: my grandmother was shocked and asked that the "lump" on back of my leg was, because she could see the division between my calf muscles. Conversely my brother who's a couple of stone overweight is viewed as normal.

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on May 09, 2010
at 05:26 AM

YES. Not even 'bad' foods, but non-paleo foods do me in when I 'experiment'. Right now I am in misery after eating maybe a half-cup of rice and beans and 2 small corn tortillas at a mexican restaurant. This was a staple of my diet about a year ago but now my body freaks out. it's too bad that once the body adjusts to paleo/primal it punishes you if you deviate.

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on May 09, 2010
at 04:17 AM

Mothers always think that fit sons are scrawny. It's in their nature. Unless you've got a little tummy, they think you're not eating enough. ;)

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on May 09, 2010
at 04:16 AM

Yes, yes, yes to this. I feel like I have all the knowledge in my head and on my computer, but it's hard to remember the knowledge when I'm out and about. And just saying, "that's unhealthy" without having the science on the tip of my tongue to back it up, is just bad manners!

A1a4882d31414600b2cab395a5b17161

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on May 09, 2010
at 04:13 AM

I saw a small child in a stroller drinking Mountain Dew recently. Made me cringe!

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on May 09, 2010
at 04:12 AM

I'm sorry to hear that. Are your family members overweight?

A1a4882d31414600b2cab395a5b17161

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on May 09, 2010
at 03:18 AM

I used to absolutely love pizza. After not eating grains for 3 months I ate pizza again and it just seemed like filler and I felt so bloated. I couldn't believe it.

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on May 09, 2010
at 03:09 AM

I think what is difficult for people is that it's the exact opposite message they have been getting from "reputable" sources like doctors, media, etc.

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on May 09, 2010
at 02:48 AM

Alcinda, what a great idea to tell people you are on a doctor prescribed diet!

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on May 09, 2010
at 03:50 AM

Watching other people feed their children garbage, while not being able to intervene. Sometimes, knowledge is a burden.

A1a4882d31414600b2cab395a5b17161

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on May 09, 2010
at 04:13 AM

I saw a small child in a stroller drinking Mountain Dew recently. Made me cringe!

A89f9751a97c3082802dc0bcbe4e9208

(13978)

on May 09, 2010
at 04:16 AM

Yes, yes, yes to this. I feel like I have all the knowledge in my head and on my computer, but it's hard to remember the knowledge when I'm out and about. And just saying, "that's unhealthy" without having the science on the tip of my tongue to back it up, is just bad manners!

65125edd5aafad39b3d5b3a8b4a36bb7

(6092)

on May 10, 2010
at 04:14 AM

I do that too AuH2Ogirl, I try not to be judgmental, but it just happens.

0e2772604bdb3627525b42d77340538b

(953)

on May 09, 2010
at 01:42 PM

This. And my compulsive habit of looking at others' shopping baskets.

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22923)

on May 21, 2010
at 07:53 PM

I cringe all day long... :(

145d4b0f988af15acc6b26eccc1f4895

(1932)

on May 22, 2010
at 04:23 PM

This is definitely the hardest part, especially when those children are MY grandchildren. I love them so, and I see the results of the neolithic diet on their bodies, but as a non-meddler, I can only hope that their parents (or they, as they get older) will eventually take note and at least question what they are doing to themselves. But then again, I was in my 50's before I realized there was a connection between diet and health (OK, OK I'm stupid - but that was just not taught to me when I was growing up!)

C1fb8666b1ae085507a76a4c494e4f0a

on July 04, 2010
at 06:40 PM

Yes, and watching friends/family eat garbage, or things that I know re exacerbating certain health issues, and not being able to intervene. I've learned (the hard way) that going on and on about food and quoting studies does nothing at all to get ppl to listen to you!

5c14d1ca9a7f98d0be7c5a828410d146

(307)

on December 23, 2010
at 09:07 PM

Oh David! This is hard for me too. I guess I've just had to let go. Lecturing doesn't help. In fact, the best way I've found to inspire people to change is just BE the example.

Af939911afa817f79a4625d4f503c735

(552)

on April 07, 2012
at 03:55 PM

I am in public schools daily. I have to avoid the cafeteria.

571e631577f6d001c79049ab79280ef2

(150)

on April 07, 2012
at 05:23 PM

Well, I'm on the paleo diet, and so is my husband, but changing the eating habits of my kids is going to take a bit longer I reckon. Its the social pressure that is hard - they are surrounded by kids eating total rubbish all the time. I guess they are verging more towards Weston Price than Paleo right now, with occasional junk thrown in. But I'm hoping that as they get older they will want to follow our example! As you said GHarkness and jpet. I'd rather do it that way because if its their choice they are more likely to stick to it in the long run.

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Eb6bfe929604b87fa24cdab687e606c7

on May 09, 2010
at 03:02 AM

trying to explain it to other people. I tell people I eat meat, veggies, fruit, and good fats. "fat? isn't that bad for you?" no. "no bread?" nope. "sounds like Atkins." not really. "sounds restrictive." definitely. restrictive in the sense that it restricts me from constantly stuffing my face with garbage.

I just don't get what's so hard to understand about it.

Eb6bfe929604b87fa24cdab687e606c7

on May 10, 2010
at 10:29 PM

Ha exactly Aaron. I remember back in December when I was living with my parents for winter break (I started doing paleo during the semester before said break so they had not been aware of the lifestyle change). I told them about the diet, and after sticking with it for a few weeks, feeling and looking great, one day my dad came up to me and said "I think it's time you start incorporating some healthy whole grains back into your diet." I didn't want to roll my eyes or anything because he's my father and I respect him...but...come on. Do some research.

A1a4882d31414600b2cab395a5b17161

(699)

on May 09, 2010
at 03:09 AM

I think what is difficult for people is that it's the exact opposite message they have been getting from "reputable" sources like doctors, media, etc.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 10, 2010
at 08:17 PM

"But what about fiber and healthy whole grains??!!" HAH

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C56bdadbc180bfd11b15eea1964825f7

on May 09, 2010
at 01:55 PM

Our society's relationship to food is such that a person is made to feel guilty for declining a host's generosity. Have you been to a party lately? People bring bags of food and jugs of drinks to these things! Absolutely nothing to eat usually, unless I wanted to park next to the guacamole bowl with a spoon. And if I turn down this generosity, then I'm the bad guy, I'm the snob, I'm the weirdo who doesn't fit in.

At least, that's what I'm telling myself after eating like a little piggy at that party last night.

Of course I could have brought my own food and of course I could have been stronger, but that's the downside: perpetual advanced planning, and perpetual willpower.

I'm really looking forward to hosting my own party next weekend - my guests are getting meat and more meat. And my invite made it clear that if you're a vegetarian, I'm not cooking for you and you should bring whatever you need. At least I'm honest.

F82f7d4dafb6d0ffc4c2ee2a85420786

(484)

on May 10, 2010
at 02:17 AM

I find the same thing about not wanting to offend people, and also being starving when there is only junk to eat. So sometimes I just have a token amount of the birthday cake or whatever, and a lot of times I bring along food that I can eat - carrot sticks and paleo dip, frittata, antipasti etc.

D738a5b2a67f3c36518a2ac9f32d27af

(821)

on May 09, 2010
at 11:02 PM

I think when you turn down food, people tend to think you are rejecting *them*. Food is very personal. It's good to find ways to praise people's generosity and presentation without actually partaking. Distract them with a compliment, ask them a question about their garnish, the pretty china, anything, and perhaps folks won't notice that you're not actually eating the proffered dish.

6869a1f2294b3a717a53645589a91d18

(1689)

on May 10, 2010
at 02:01 AM

yea, its important to mention declining food i think has been a taboo since the beginning of time for humans. it shouldn't be taken personal, of course, but it often is. a simple effective face-saving way out is to say that you're allergic or have some kind of doctor's orders. in some modern cultures it can be considered extremely rude, much moreso than in the more western world, not to accept something like a food offering.

5de2fffda92c0bf2be7ede10cad55546

(1781)

on August 22, 2010
at 01:21 PM

My solution is to have something to eat before you go or better still, simply make it a fast day till you get home.

8ad3275261eeab90faff4f98c86ca670

(0)

on May 25, 2014
at 03:10 PM

agree with everyone and have to add... hate that attitude you get when you decline to eat the crap at the staff meeting/impromptu celebration/kid's birthday party/etc. like you are deliberately trying to show off how "healthy" you are and highlight how "bad" they are being, and you are ruining the party vibe, and instead of being able to gorge blithely en masse they now feel guilty and resent you.

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B4aa2df25a6bf17d22556667ff896170

(851)

on May 09, 2010
at 03:21 AM

the worst thing about being paleo is that eating foods like pizza and burritos make you feel 10x worse than they did before you went paleo

6869a1f2294b3a717a53645589a91d18

(1689)

on May 10, 2010
at 01:48 AM

is it possible that eating pizza/burritos have always made you feel bad, but that back then you were just more accustomed to the pain?

4b97e3bb2ee4a9588783f5d56d687da1

(22923)

on May 21, 2010
at 06:51 PM

Itza Meatza! Freetheanimal had a great idea, meatza is awesome

A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on April 08, 2012
at 05:09 AM

Eating these foods doesn't make me feel any different. I wish it did--it would make going without them so much easier if I could console myself with the fact that they would make me sick. Instead I have to be all "it's the right thing to do" about it. And once in awhile, that's not enough....

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D13278772f6612432bf53413fad4e7af

(801)

on May 09, 2010
at 05:09 PM

As someone who loves to cook, it's been hard to leave behind such classics as risotto, paella, pasta carbonara, cassoulet, biryani, and so forth. Substitutions -- such as grated cauliflower for rice or spiralized zucchini for pasta are often pretty lame. They remind me of vegetarian "burgers" and the like, which trick the eye more than the taste buds.

5de2fffda92c0bf2be7ede10cad55546

(1781)

on August 22, 2010
at 01:10 PM

Why the re-enactment? Just leave them behind and find better foods. "Invent" something new and make it yours.

6b8d12fc3e43179f9ae1765a4d1a9dc2

(5914)

on January 16, 2012
at 10:21 AM

Why give up risotto? I save chicken, bacon and mushroom risotto for the big training days. Also, cassoulet, biryani, these can both be paleo friendly. I love to cook and you if you are using top quality ingredients and some imagination and kitchen skills you can still have most of the classics

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A89f9751a97c3082802dc0bcbe4e9208

(13978)

on May 09, 2010
at 03:16 AM

I really miss potato chips.

And I hate that (ch)eating - eating bad foods - now feels worse than it used to feel.

A1a4882d31414600b2cab395a5b17161

(699)

on May 09, 2010
at 03:18 AM

I used to absolutely love pizza. After not eating grains for 3 months I ate pizza again and it just seemed like filler and I felt so bloated. I couldn't believe it.

A1a4882d31414600b2cab395a5b17161

(699)

on May 09, 2010
at 06:06 PM

@AnnaA, I absolutely love Meatza! All the deliciousness of Pizza without the bloating.

63f75c94849ec6dd969c95bfae18a8a4

on May 09, 2010
at 05:26 AM

YES. Not even 'bad' foods, but non-paleo foods do me in when I 'experiment'. Right now I am in misery after eating maybe a half-cup of rice and beans and 2 small corn tortillas at a mexican restaurant. This was a staple of my diet about a year ago but now my body freaks out. it's too bad that once the body adjusts to paleo/primal it punishes you if you deviate.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 09, 2010
at 02:33 PM

And gilliebean, I make pepperoni chips when I get craving potato chips. Buy a package of thin-sliced pepperoni and bake it at about 325- 350 until the chips get dried out (they crisp up as they cool).

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 09, 2010
at 02:30 PM

Hey Matt, have you tried Meatza? When Richard N. had it on his site I made it and it is very filling.

A89f9751a97c3082802dc0bcbe4e9208

(13978)

on May 09, 2010
at 08:53 PM

Love that pepperoni chips idea Anna! Thanks!

14aa918d730371ed14f8e7e7d6eb6587

(373)

on May 22, 2010
at 09:01 PM

Potato chips can be easily made. Just fry potato slices in coconut oil or lard, then season accordingly. I did this and they turned out amazing -- a little too amazing (ate em all in one sitting).

23e12b6f370a326165c219ea46b06a18

(50)

on June 10, 2010
at 09:37 PM

Kale chips work also!!!!

Df11e66ec4dd4f749eca409633b6a3fb

(595)

on July 04, 2010
at 12:30 PM

and squash chips! Just throw slices in the dehydrator.

6a829b1a30785b9f3d0c608f9c8e9b10

(90)

on August 20, 2010
at 09:13 PM

I still eat Potato Chips

A89f9751a97c3082802dc0bcbe4e9208

(13978)

on August 22, 2010
at 06:50 PM

Being a masochist is the only way I can get myself to run sprints Alan... ;) J/K!

5de2fffda92c0bf2be7ede10cad55546

(1781)

on August 22, 2010
at 01:08 PM

If you hate it, don't do it.. Simple. Only a masochist would keep doing something that makes them feel awful.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on January 16, 2012
at 04:27 PM

Try making a whole bag of potato chips. It'll take lots of time and lots of effort. That's why I miss potato chips too... It was my favorite food of all. I wish potato chips grew on the trees.

A7768b6c6be7f5d6acc76e5efa66464c

on April 08, 2012
at 05:06 AM

One good sized sweet potato (I favor those purple ones that are white inside--not as sweet) sliced thinly and deep fried in coconut oil, salted generously afterward, produces about the same quantity as a bag of potato chips, and is about as satisfying, at least to me. Whether that's much healthier than doing the same thing with a regular potato, I'm not so sure. But either way, it's true that it's more effort than buying a bag at the store. But then, all of my cooking requires more effort now that I don't buy anything premade. I don't find it burdensome--if I want the treat, I do the work.

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0055e3c2afa688c3aac26c520284bd6e

(120)

on May 09, 2010
at 02:21 AM

The worst part of Paleo is having people talk down to you b/c you are doing something healthy for yourself. Giving up certain foods has been tough, but knowing what those foods do to your body is worth giving it up. Being on Paleo not only makes you feel better, it gives me the right fuel to do Crossfit!

5de2fffda92c0bf2be7ede10cad55546

(1781)

on August 22, 2010
at 01:22 PM

The right fuel to do life.

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9e621c9cf0a36b4034a3d6e7cfc4e1f4

(221)

on May 21, 2010
at 05:58 PM

We find it particularly irritating that none of our friends invite us over for dinner anymore, despite the fact that we throw great paleo feasts for the lot of them. We don't know if they're more intimidated by our awesome cooking skills or our weird diet.

It's funny because we happily make due with whatever's put in front of us, for the most part (a bowl of pasta might be tough.) Oh well.

Medium avatar

(2923)

on January 16, 2012
at 09:14 AM

Sounds like the beginning of a joke: Psst, look at that paleo guy over there, he just sucked the tomato sauce off the spaghetti and then threw it out!

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C53665c3f012fa1ede91033b08a8a6e7

(2269)

on May 23, 2010
at 02:45 PM

I get some funny looks at work eating my lunch of artisanal salami and raw-milk cheese while my porky colleagues shove sandwiches, french fries, "healthy low-fat wraps" and other garbage from the cafeteria down their gullets. I also get some push-back when I try to explain why "heart-healthy low fat" is so bogus. It makes me sad seeing this one woman who's pregnant eating such garbage and washing it down with a liter of Coke. Hope the bun comes out of the oven OK...

Well, bitches, all you (colleagues, not, you know, you) need to do is look. I've dropped 33lbs in five months and can now get into a pair of 31" jeans from 36". My new nickname at work is "Skinny Mini" which is funny because I'm not skinny by any means but whatever. But just keep shoving crap into your mouths and bash your brains and joints into oblivion with your running and aerobics and other body-hostile abuse under the guise of "getting in shape."

Yeah, I get a little angry about it all, esp. when checking out at the market and rolling my eyes at what the rabble are buying thinking they're making the right choices. Oh you think 5 gallons of fat & sugar-free "ice cream" is the way to go, lady?

But I'm kind of a jerk anyway :)

C53665c3f012fa1ede91033b08a8a6e7

(2269)

on June 05, 2010
at 04:18 PM

-1? Huh. Am I too wordy, sarcastic, what?

A1a4882d31414600b2cab395a5b17161

(699)

on May 23, 2010
at 11:49 PM

My roommate constantly harangues me for my eating yet she smokes, eats pastries, ice cream, or cookies, on a daily basis. I just learned that my mother-in-law has expressed concern over my meat consumption, yet she has type 2 diabetes and hasn't slowed down her carb/sugar intake. We all feel you, 42!

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89e238284ccb95b439edcff9e123671e

(10299)

on May 10, 2010
at 06:49 AM

The worst of paleo (with worst being relative, because not that bad at all)

being evangelical about the ancestral health (although that seems to be getting better now, after 2 years) and

judging (not out loud) people for their bad habits, even though I don't really want to and I know they often try their best (by following common wisdom).

The other worst thing is somewhat different. Before going paleo, I used the internet less frequent for private matters. Now, since discovering all these great websites and blogs, I have to take care. Luckily we don't have a television.

4e184df9c1ed38f61febc5d6cf031921

(5005)

on May 10, 2010
at 07:30 AM

I also don't have a television - and people I know seem to thin k that is MUCH more abnormal than not eating grains / pulses / potatoes!

A1a4882d31414600b2cab395a5b17161

(699)

on May 22, 2010
at 06:43 PM

I find that fewer young people have TVs since you can watch a lot of content on the internet.

7
782828e745d3ab159ad8f70abbc4094d

(130)

on May 10, 2010
at 02:02 AM

Worst part would be the looks and comments from others implying I'm a bit odd ("Dinner for breakfast AGAIN? How weird!") - I'm shy, so the extra attention can be off-putting!

Social things like cake at work morning teas can be awkward, although conveniently snacking on something paleo at the right time helps immensely.

I just do the best I can when I'm out and about, and don't beat myself up if I can't eat 100% paleo at all times.

A1a4882d31414600b2cab395a5b17161

(699)

on May 10, 2010
at 05:11 AM

That's a good point. I don't think it helps being hard on yourself.

5de2fffda92c0bf2be7ede10cad55546

(1781)

on May 23, 2010
at 07:45 AM

No point in beating your self up, I just see it as a perfect opportunity for a fast. No reason to eat rubbish just because everyone else is.

7
8347d512bca9b034d53da40dab8cd21c

on May 09, 2010
at 04:06 AM

There are a few minimal things that I've noticed since having made the switch to Paleo, and I can live with them (many are ones others have cited already). The hardest has been dealing with relatives, including my mother, who are so steadfast in their opinion of how I look now.

Having not been this lean since my younger years (I'm 35 now, stand 5'9", weigh about 167 and have -- according to the tape-measure method -- 17% bodyfat), I'm being told that I look "sickly" and "too thin" and what I'm doing is obviously not healthy. This, despite the fact that my doctor thinks I look great and has told me to keep it up.

Don't get me wrong: I know I have more energy, I'm the most fit I've been EVER and everything I'm doing is right. I'm not swayed. It's just difficult to hear people that I trust be so closed-minded. Disappointing.

A89f9751a97c3082802dc0bcbe4e9208

(13978)

on May 09, 2010
at 04:17 AM

Mothers always think that fit sons are scrawny. It's in their nature. Unless you've got a little tummy, they think you're not eating enough. ;)

A89f9751a97c3082802dc0bcbe4e9208

(13978)

on May 09, 2010
at 08:54 PM

Ah... Yes. There is a difference. :)

A1a4882d31414600b2cab395a5b17161

(699)

on May 09, 2010
at 04:12 AM

I'm sorry to hear that. Are your family members overweight?

E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

(15613)

on May 09, 2010
at 11:58 AM

Agreed, I've had all my family members complain that I'm 'anorexic' because you can see my abs and lower ribs. It's ridiculous how much cultural notions of size vary: my grandmother was shocked and asked that the "lump" on back of my leg was, because she could see the division between my calf muscles. Conversely my brother who's a couple of stone overweight is viewed as normal.

8347d512bca9b034d53da40dab8cd21c

(2517)

on May 09, 2010
at 01:30 PM

My sister (the lone sibling) is overweight, and probably obese (though I wouldn't exact know the dividing line between one and another). The rest of my family is not overweight; oddly enough, they've all had (or have) some sort of cancer. Gillie, I understand where you're coming from -- but this is serious concern on her part, not just slightly worrisome nagging. :)

Medium avatar

(2923)

on January 16, 2012
at 09:18 AM

Unfortunately, most of this goes back to our cultural heritage: overweight = wealthy, thin = poor -- and then combine that with our inherited clichés, "Healthy, wealthy, and wise" ...

6
5b514becab9af33952c9458b2d75917a

on August 21, 2010
at 07:11 PM

Hands down the hardest is cooking and planning meals all the time. I live in nyc with a nice 24 bodega on every corner and three pizza spots in a 10 block radius. I won't take up this space of all the savory places in my neighborhood but there are lots. I also work in the film industry and put in 10-14 hours average. They cater but its mostly non paleo friendly food. So that means I have to come home after 14 hours and cook food for the entire following day. I miss not having to plan every meal and being able to go out and get my bagel.

Also, even though I'm part of a food co-op, its not so cheap. I'm sticking with it cause its worth the effort but what was convenient for the caveman is not always convenient for the new yorker. Also caveman didn't have rent to pay for his nice loft space cave. But I guess I don't have to fight sabertooth to the death so I'll call it even.

6
6a829b1a30785b9f3d0c608f9c8e9b10

on August 20, 2010
at 09:33 PM

Being a freaking Encyclopaedia of medical knowledge. You try and say useful things here and there, and next thing people believe you know everything and want answers.

6b8d12fc3e43179f9ae1765a4d1a9dc2

(5914)

on January 16, 2012
at 10:37 AM

I just hate knowing so much. Every time someone says some supposed "health or nutrition" advise at work I want to argue with them so bad.

6
431274eafd914ee34d9c57262c1f617a

on May 09, 2010
at 02:36 AM

Yea, I'd say dealing with the people that don't understand. I do very low carb, mostly paleo....I do have some dairy and occasional grains.

I just started a new job and I'm just telling people I'm on a special diet....doctor prescribed....which is technically true (Dr. Westman prescribed low carb, I decided to go mostly paleo). It's just easier.

It's comical though....people ask me where I bought my meal. I tell them what food store I bought the ingredients in....and then if they ask tell them I cooked it myself. Seems that no one cooks real food!!

A1a4882d31414600b2cab395a5b17161

(699)

on May 09, 2010
at 02:48 AM

Alcinda, what a great idea to tell people you are on a doctor prescribed diet!

4e2a7b49a7196fb7fe1ca014b09c47ed

on December 24, 2010
at 04:29 AM

I like that idea! Maybe people will stop offering me cookies and candy to "tempt" me!

5
Dbc6179ca7c68f8434f2b85ac84b42b7

on January 16, 2012
at 03:53 AM

watching my family grow fat and sick on the SAD. :(

Ebcbbdcb8b727e69e06eaa102d49a84c

(1804)

on April 07, 2012
at 01:32 PM

Amen. This is seriously one of the hardest things. So many health problems and I swear diet is the culprit. Makes me feel kind of helpless some days.

5
A8b9f4927f3819f75fb5f793626ef83c

(50)

on December 23, 2010
at 04:37 AM

Being a teenager and having to go on 3 day feild trip with only pizza as a food source. Better yet we can't bring any food. Also having to deal with a mother who dosent understand my diet AT ALL! Its tough eating the right way..

Cab7e4ef73c5d7d7a77e1c3d7f5773a1

(7314)

on December 23, 2010
at 11:51 PM

It's not tough, really. I'm 15 and managing just fine with a highly uncooperative family. Ask if you can go to the grocery store and buy things you need or make a list. Make sure your mom knows what you will/won't eat, but do not preach. And learn to cook if you haven't already, it will be a very handy skill to have when you need to eat and everyone else is having pizza.

65bf1ca7071028018c6d8305d0ddcd76

(3049)

on April 07, 2012
at 05:19 PM

If you make some meals for your family they will also appreciate your thoughtfulness and you get to control the ingredients!

5
667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on May 23, 2010
at 10:50 PM

Not drinking beer. That would most def be the worst part for me.

A1a4882d31414600b2cab395a5b17161

(699)

on May 23, 2010
at 11:51 PM

Surprisingly, you are the first to mention alcohol out of 22 respondents.

1471beca8e3adff4ae2f89d10e5f7acb

(6550)

on August 20, 2010
at 10:49 PM

I was reading through these thinking. It's beer. I love beer and have had an easy time giving up everything neolithic except beer. Beautiful hoppy glorious craft beer. Sigh.

5de2fffda92c0bf2be7ede10cad55546

(1781)

on August 22, 2010
at 01:35 PM

That's funny. Beer was one of the first things to go almost two years ago now and I don't miss it one little bit. In fact I never even think about it.

Da773d29157aa4ad15ab2dad600c56a9

(90)

on December 23, 2010
at 08:24 PM

I really do miss a good Smithwicks after work on Friday...

9a19846adfae25b2e17c32d9af386f02

(151)

on December 23, 2010
at 08:53 PM

I was still having an occasional beer for a while, but I can't stomach it anymore. Makes me feel like crap within 10 minutes. Probably a good thing anyway.

5
E35e3d76547b18096a59c90029e7e107

(15613)

on May 09, 2010
at 11:58 AM

Not being able to feel virtuous about running miles every day and being in the gym doing weights every 48 hours!

4
5bf2296b9cdde972566a80f89825b1a3

(64)

on May 22, 2010
at 08:34 AM

"where the rabble also drink, all wells are poisoned" - Nietsche

why should i bother explaining myself to those who i beleive are poisoning themselves?

the information about paleo is not new, is not difficult to access, and is not difficult to understand.

Second thought. Most people are so dull-witted that they can intently watch a magician doing his act, and STILL not notice the sleight-of-hand. It is not much challenge to nurse a plate of party food to leave the IMPRESSION that you're consuming it.

4
B2bc4804dd43ef191ed646775fea52a3

(90)

on May 21, 2010
at 11:24 PM

Being a barefooting Paleo in Portland, OR and having to explain to Vegans/ignorant masses why I choose to do what I do and getting condescending looks for it. Joke's on you ya gaunt little fuc*ers!

A1a4882d31414600b2cab395a5b17161

(699)

on May 22, 2010
at 06:45 PM

Meanwhile they smoke...

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(699)

on May 22, 2010
at 06:44 PM

I am in Toronto and I've had people talk to me like I was out of my mind for going barefoot. They think I am going to step on an AIDS needle or pick up some disease.

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(4069)

on April 07, 2012
at 05:35 PM

O Portland. The tired joke. The antidote for me: wearing bright colors, eating an entire roasted chicken at New Seasons in plain view, carrying a purse made out of raccoon (face still attached), and speaking loudly and at Stumptown.

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on May 21, 2010
at 04:14 PM

The worst part is being on a really long interstate road trip and forgetting to pack the paleo lunch. However I'm back home and at the moment eating a heaping plate of venison and a big juicy tomato for lunch. I will be fishing this afternoon and hopefully I will have some fresh trout with cattail shoots for supper.

Paleo is much more than just a diet. It can be a lifestyle

Hi-tech-Luddite

A1a4882d31414600b2cab395a5b17161

(699)

on May 22, 2010
at 06:42 PM

Whenever I go on a trip I make sure to load up on high fat and protein meal before I leave so I won't be hungry during the trip.

65bf1ca7071028018c6d8305d0ddcd76

(3049)

on April 07, 2012
at 05:22 PM

I always have macadamia nuts in my purse... Always. Might be easier because, as a girl, I always have a purse on me!

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A6e2b231f69366ce825476c5a6dcfff6

(1967)

on May 10, 2010
at 04:05 AM

I was asked by a coworker what my secret to weight loss was. I started at low carb and when I didn't get an instant rejection explained the rest of how I ate. My coworker thought is sounded doable, and that she'd try it.

A few days later I saw her coming in with a McDonalds bag, and I joked that she was quiting already. She laughed and pulled out a burger with lettuce and tomato but no bun. Hurray ish Until I saw the cup of sugar and ice they call a Frapp??.

Having a burger without a bun was ok, but letting go of that sugar drink. She just couldn't do it. This has happened more times than I can count. Interested person will eat right and loose it all in a cup/bottle/can of sugar and HFCS.

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on May 10, 2010
at 11:56 PM

Even a little change is good!! Maybe she'll cut things out and realize she feels better!!

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(1932)

on May 22, 2010
at 04:20 PM

Many people do these things in steps. Every step in the right direction....is a step in the right direction :-) You never know what she might try next. Sometimes it takes years....but it's better than NO improvement in diet, right? Encourage her, and when she is ready, she'll take the next step.

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(90)

on August 20, 2010
at 09:22 PM

You know the bun is probably the worst offender, I would say you have talked someone into making a pretty darn good change, even if she does have a little sugary beverage on the side. Praise to you and her!

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on May 09, 2010
at 03:34 AM

My mom totally freaked the day I told her I'm not eating bread, potatoes, rice and pasta anymore.

When pizza is ordered at the office I'll grab a few slices and discretely eat the tasty topping, hide the crust in a napkin and discard it. I think my colleagues would find that weird.

I miss eating large servings of ice cream.

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(1648)

on June 03, 2010
at 08:58 PM

I don't know if you can find it in your neck of the woods, but I recently discovered Coconut Bliss, an "ice cream" made from coconut milk, no sugar (though does use agave syrup). VERY delicious, good for a treat.

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(3641)

on August 21, 2010
at 04:32 AM

agave syrup is pretty much sugar by another name. i believe its all fructose.

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(151)

on December 23, 2010
at 08:49 PM

I've had the 'coconut bliss' brand before as well. It's pretty good, but I would prefer they just use raw cane sugar instead of the agave nectar. MikeD is right, agave nectar is _mostly_ fructose.

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(2437)

on December 23, 2010
at 07:10 AM

I used to eat ice cream by the litre. What I do now is crush up 25 g of dark chocolate, add 3 or 4 peach slices, and service with lashings of cream.

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B525b3e4b1d6f1cdceec943cdec6eb7d

(1680)

on January 16, 2012
at 04:14 PM

People around me can see the change paleo has made in my life. I'm thin! I'm healthy! I have energy! etc. Yet most of them keep on eating crap, and I don't get that. It's hard to watch.

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on December 23, 2010
at 11:41 PM

For brunch today, I went to my favorite little french cafe/bistro near my work. They make the most wonderful omelettes, and I ordered one with mozzerella/swiss/parmesan cheeses and raw onion. I also asked for sliced tomatoes instead of the default sliced sugarbags (fruit) and requested it be fried in butter, hold the bread.

My brunch came out with sugarbags and bread intact. I was in a hurry, so I didn't send it back and scarfed only the omelette. When I asked for my check, the waitress was incredulous: "Why aren't you eating your fruit and bread???". I just smiled and paid my bill. I had not the time nor the energy to get into a food battle with an uninformed opponent.

I find this scenario played out constantly, and it's frustrating. But the benefits of going Paleo have far outweighed this down-side!

All I can usually do is....facepalm...

what-is-the-biggest-downside-to-being-paleo?

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(5773)

on December 23, 2010
at 07:42 PM

It's interesting to me that most of our responses have to do with other people. I always find it ironic that eating clean, fresh, unprocessed foods is abnormal, but eating heavily processed, GMO foods is normal.

I'll have to second the knowledge thing, especially with my kids. My son goes to a day school that doesn't allow outside food and I know what he eats at school and it scares the piss out of me.

Da773d29157aa4ad15ab2dad600c56a9

(90)

on December 23, 2010
at 08:26 PM

See above comment. Can't you just tell the school that your child is on a prescribed diet?? They have to have allowances for religious or medical reasons.

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(5773)

on December 24, 2010
at 04:31 PM

You need a doctors note. My son doesn't have an "medical" allergy.

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(361)

on December 23, 2010
at 05:59 AM

Socializing and the lack of freedom to eat anywhere!

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(871)

on April 07, 2012
at 11:22 PM

Amen. Paleo has made me reclusive

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on May 09, 2010
at 09:53 PM

I used to be a real night owl. Arriving home as the sun came up and loving it. Since turning paleo and realising how much better I felt on adequate sleep I have been much more hesitant to punish myself with a late night. Mostly I don't mind sacrificing some social time for proper bedtime but sometimes this can feel quite limiting.

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on April 07, 2012
at 09:38 PM

The hardest thing for me has been to sort through advice (potentially) suitable for obese, metabolically deranged people, and that which is suitable for insulin sensitive, athletic, high functioning individuals who want to optimize their already healthy lifestyle.

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

(871)

on April 07, 2012
at 11:25 PM

Love this. I think I've been listening to advice that works for the obese. No wonder it's not working for me to just tone up a bit.

78cb3c4f70de5db2adb52b6b9671894b

(5519)

on April 23, 2012
at 01:35 PM

I think I was trapped in this as well. I was trying really hard to enter ketosis and eating high fat and I felt awful on it.

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on April 07, 2012
at 08:05 PM

Looking at my parents getting more and more sick but still eating junk food. And I can't help them cause they don't want to listen to me. Someday I'm going to feel very guilty that I couldn't help them. But what can I do? And when I look at my younger bro who eats big bowl of ice cream right before his bedtime starring at bullshits on TV... And my mates from college carrying big bag of sandwiches, low-fat yogurts, diet cookies, rice with soy, fitness cereals, 3 in 1 coffee with l-carnitine every day... And they're constantly munching on this crap. ALWAYS hungry. But I've stopped talk with them about what's wrong with them thinking 'low fat or vegetarian/vegan diet is the best for our health' cause I'm fed up with 'grains are good for us!', 'how can you live without milk?!', 'soooooo, which sweetener do you use instead of sugar?', 'meat is gonna kill you man! and oh my god you eat so much fat, what about your cholesterol?'... and so on and on and on... AND I HATE when people look at my lunch box and says : 'WHAT IS T-H-A-T?! Are you f***g out of your mind?! I can give you one of my sandwich!' or whats even worst : 'Oh, what do you have here? It's looking nice... Can I try this?' and after one bite 'Mmmm taste nice, what's that?' then when I say 'rabbit meatballs' it ends up on the floor/in the sink. Grr...

BUT what I think is really depressing that I remember how pizza used to taste to me... DELICIOUS. When I became paleo I couldn't give up PIZZA. And when I had my 'little breakdown' I tried one slice of pepperoni with double cheese and garlic tomato sauce and gues what? It wasn't the same taste. It was like plastic. The same was with chocolate. :(

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on April 07, 2012
at 09:17 PM

"cheating" with a gluten free pizza isn't so bad. In Chico, CA we have 3 local pizza places that serve GF crusts.....yeah, yeah, I know, not the same, but also not too bad either.

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4303a65967884e68bfae59817c227351

(1881)

on April 07, 2012
at 01:19 PM

So I started chatting up this lady at the local caveman watering hole over a couple drinks. As we were talking I was definitely getting interested in whatever she talking about (well, not really, but I was interested in her) and after a while she explained she was a vegetarian. Well, it's pretty obvious to say that we didn't work out beyond that night. So, paleo has now effected my dating life-ish. Which thinking about it now is debatable if that's actually a downside.

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8b982d4beccca9fcb85affe8d4bd4ff2

(1585)

on January 16, 2012
at 09:09 AM

The cost of "healthy" food in Sweden. I don't care how cheap people say eating paleo is, in Sweden the cost of eating is so very very expensive and to buy healthy foods is three times that. It is unreal you need about 10,000 kr (1,500 dollars) to feed a family of five a REAL paleo diet which includes organic foods and healthy meats. and this IS budget shopping no extra fancy stuff.

It's not affordable in Sweden...

65bf1ca7071028018c6d8305d0ddcd76

(3049)

on April 07, 2012
at 05:17 PM

Canyou share some examples of the price you pay for standard items like eggs, gf meat, etc? I'm fascinated by the very different food prices around the world.

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on May 21, 2010
at 07:09 PM

It definately trying to convince those you care about that most of what they've been inundated with their entire life about nutrition is wrong regardless of your 100+ lb weight loss, energy health etc and seeing everyone poison themselves constantly and see poison dispensors with lines out the door. Depressing

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Fd7b128cf714044a86d8bd822c7a8992

(4292)

on April 08, 2012
at 02:06 AM

How damn hard it is to eat enough calories in a day.

I'm weight training and trying to put on weight and I always end up eating like 1500/day and feeling totally sated and then having to choke down half a jar of nut butter or a whole can of coconut milk or something to get to my calorie goal for the day. Processed foods are so much more calorie-dense that I don't feel full until I've consumed many more calories; it would be so much easier to gain weight if I could eat ice cream or candy or even wheat products.

Also the incredible social isolation and constant feelings of deprivation when I want the delicious chocolate raisins/Ben & Jerry's/food my family is enjoying and can't have it, but that's mostly me being whiny. Unlike apparently everyone else in the Paleosphere I still enjoy the taste of everything I am no longer allowed to eat. Pizza does not taste like cardboard; it tastes like heaven.

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892d177f50b16f118152219229870e4e

(776)

on April 07, 2012
at 08:12 PM

Watching some of the better minds (Lalonde,KGH,Peter) either disappear or disassociate themselves with Paleo.

I realize labels don't mean a hell of a lot,but their opinions and insights made for quality reading.

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78cb3c4f70de5db2adb52b6b9671894b

on April 07, 2012
at 06:55 PM

I actually haven't told anyone in my famly yet, or my boyfriend. My plan is just to talk about food intolerances/medical necessity rather than, "I'm eating paleo" if someone asks me in the future.

The downside to paleo is that I just know that I'm going to be accused of, "You're just trying to find an excuse to restrict" or "But you don't really need to lose weight". I'm a lot fatter now, but I struggled with anorexia for a while and people were so rude...at group meetings/dinners, research symposiums, etc...people did not hesitate to comment about my food choices, including strangers. I felt ashamed, but I shouldn't have. They encouraged me to eat cakes, cookies, etc. instead of salads and high-protein meals. I was anorexia, binge/purge subtype so that type of food would have triggered binging. And when I say binging, I mean BINGING. As in, eat 10% of my weight or more...some days are better than others. There's pretty much no use in trying to defend myself though.

Before finding out about paleo, I was trying to leave out wheat and sugar anyway because it triggered binges. I don't think I can ever explain that having a healthy relationship with food begins with eating healthy food...and not just eating anything with abandon and cotton candy without a care. Nobody can really grasp how mind numbing wheat can be for me. I think it's partly psychological, but there is a physical addiction that is pretty difficult to cope with.

I actually spend less time planning food and don't spend 2 hours walking around the grocery store anymore. I try to eat whole foods and not packaged junk. I nowhere near perfect (in fact, I am VERY far from it since I still struggle with disordered eating), but I'm hopeful. The social aspect of it is the only thing that bothers me. Family-style meals are hard and after the holidays, I always return home and go through a few months of very bad binging, disordered eating, etc. (more than usual). It takes months to get over the trauma from a week or so of eating lots of wheat, grains, etc. And it comes with a lot of weight gain which drives the misery even further.

Medium avatar

(85)

on April 07, 2012
at 08:08 PM

'I just want to be able to go through life eating food for food and not being obsessive over it and thinking about binging what feels like every waking moment.' I'm struggling the same problem. Be strong! x

78cb3c4f70de5db2adb52b6b9671894b

(5519)

on April 07, 2012
at 07:04 PM

Physical health, longetivity, appearance...all of the possible benefits come AFTER mental clarity. I don't care if paleo doesn't extend my life, or if I don't look amazing. Goshdarnit, I just want to be able to go through life eating food for food and not being obsessive over it and thinking about binging what feels like every waking moment.

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033ceff8e23d4abf2ff122e223d7a123

on April 07, 2012
at 03:53 PM

Whenever someone asks me why Paleo is "better" it's like my mind goes blank and I forget everything I've read or researched. I usually mumble something about insulin and cancer and people become disinterested. The fact that I have no physical change to show since "converting"...my boyfriend has lost 15lbs yet I have not lost any. I think people disregard a diet change that doesn't have extreme visible changes (also it pisses me off that I haven't had any weight loss, haha). When people find out I haven't lost any weight they often ask me if I feel different and it's hard to explain to people that the biggest change I "feel" is a connection to my food, a sense of pride knowing my food is environmentally friendly, the meat I eat didn't live a horrible life in a crowded room, and that I can pronounce all of the ingredients I eat. Also, I don't want to tell people that my bowels have improved haha. As many others have said, it also sucks being social. Turning down food or always preparing my own food (or cheating).

I came to my parents for the weekend and my mom had just baked chocolate chip and peanut butter cookies...they smelt so good I ate one of each & instantly have tummy issues. (but it tasted sooo good-she used Crisco haha)

65bf1ca7071028018c6d8305d0ddcd76

(3049)

on April 07, 2012
at 05:09 PM

Sometimes it's not about thenumber on the scale, but the other changes related to health that count. My skin is clear for the first tome in my life, I have energy through the roof and I slee soundly. I highly recommend you consider doing a whole30 challenge, and see what changes you see :)

65bf1ca7071028018c6d8305d0ddcd76

(3049)

on April 07, 2012
at 05:07 PM

While it mightn't be appropriate in every situation, I do tell people my bowels have improved. This is often an issue for people, and they tend to be very interested in learning how to make changes to achieve regular movements of their own. If you are 'cheating' with things like cookies, this could in part be why you're not achieving the same changes. I was gluten free for 8 years, but sometimes made gluten free baking laden with sweetener ( I went between sugar, agave, honey and maple syrup) until I cut those out, my body was still inflamed and held on to a bit of puff.

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on January 16, 2012
at 04:54 PM

My immediate family has been somewhat supportive (my father the most, then my nearly-vegan sister who understands that I'm trying to cure myself of something that held me back a year in school and kept me from having a social life for 4 years, then my mother who rolled her eyes at me when I said I was doing it, but doesn't really care and so far hasn't been given me problems for it), but I don't think any of them actually believe that anything I'm avoiding is bad for me. It doesn't help that I'm not well-spoken in person, so I stay quiet because I can't explain myself very well and have trouble articulating the science behind it all when I'm feeling flustered.

This wasn't a problem until a few days ago, which was the last day of my sister visiting for winter break. We all went out to eat to a nice Italian restaurant, and I ordered the veal meatballs. Rookie mistake: I didn't remember that breadcrumbs are used in meatballs until after I'd finished. I casually mentioned this to my family, and they said, "You'll live." I said, "Yeah, I just won't feel well later." This raised a lot of protest, with my sister saying, "No you won't; it's not like when you eat meat," meaning that when she, being vegetarian/vegan for several years, tries to eat meat (for whatever reason...) she gets a stomach ache. My immediate thought was, "Yes it is." But I didn't say anything because I was so taken aback by the arrogance with which she said it that I knew I would fumble over my words. I let it go, and lo-and-behold had rather gross gastrointestinal issues that night. My parents apologized for not believing me, but my sister told me that it was all in my head. It's stuff like that, besides the "cavewoman" jaunts, that are exasperatingly annoying.

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on May 25, 2014
at 12:27 AM

i never try to explain my strict Primal/Paleo lifestyle as my straight edge lifestyle at all,because i don't care what enybody thinks or say or do.i still enjoy cook for my family and brother,as i alway do) and my bro is realy one person who supports me every time when i try any strict experiments in my life.my family don't say anything bad about what am doing,they still think it's unhealthy to eat so much butter,but they happy that am extremely healthy and not fat.they just say that they can't make the same shit,they find that only tasty food and alcohol makes them happy and relaxed in their stressfull life. i hate whem people getting mad at me,that i can't eat this and that and they think that i don't eat at all and just breathe the air ahahaha stupid folks. i don't like eat outside,but if i need it's not a problem.meat/fish,veggies and butter/oils have all restaurants wgere i go.(always choose grill bar-heaven place for primal people ) the worst thing for me that i really miss my fruits and pancakes.sometimes i treat myself with coconut flour/flaxmeal pancakes with some berries ) and i miss my favourite GOUDA CHEESE and macaroni and ice cream ahhahaha.but since i feel satiated most of my days i don't dream about those cakes and tortellini from past) i feel great and i think am extremely healthy and it makes me unique xD

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Fa51f2da1ed61c1177813672b07fe7a5

(20)

on October 27, 2013
at 06:10 AM

Not being able to just grab food wherever and whenever. I used to be able to pop into any cafe/coffeshop and grab a snack or lunch without much thought (I was "health-conscious" so I'd just try to go for the lowest cal option unless I was looking to treat myself). Now, even if something is "healthy", I know it likely isn't...

Fa51f2da1ed61c1177813672b07fe7a5

(20)

on October 27, 2013
at 06:18 AM

Also, the expense. I see my colleagues grabbing a candy bar as a snack from the local discount grocery store for $.25 and I'm eating a Larabar I bought for $1.25. And they feel totally ok with eating Cup of Noodles and a hardboiled egg for lunch...I think one can do Paleo on a "budget", but there's no doubt a carb-focused SAD diet (say, toast with butter for breakfast, a ham sandwich for lunch and spaghetti for dinner) is cheaper. Beans and grains, two things we don't eat, are known as the foods of college kids for a reason

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(453)

on April 08, 2012
at 01:02 AM

Having to buy new jeans so often because they keep falling off every couple months. Those things are expensive! Maybe I should switch to a style where bagginess is less noticeable? Ahhhh, but I like my skinnies. Life is difficult.

In all seriousness, it's living with a non-paleo family. Drawing the line between "my food" and "your food" is suuuuper awkward and I haven't been able to successfully do it yet and I think I need to start, otherwise I'll end up eating and justifying frozen french fries (or worse) again. Also organic meat is expensive. Also the funny looks you get when you tell them you're going to eat a certain way (GAPS) "for acne" ("No, this is silly and too restrictive; you only have it because you're using this Oil Cleansing nonsense!!!" Never mind the breakout pattern is totally hormonal, not topical, never mind that the pimples have been around for over a decade)

And social situations. It's hard to strike a balance between letting 80/20 become 60/40, and just being an irritating orthorexic health nut (in the eyes of others). Thank god for the non-paleo but still food-nerd circle of friends I guess? At least they understand that it matters, haha.

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Aa1f07e23a47aed0d07b712645e0d213

(313)

on January 16, 2012
at 05:01 AM

Getting yelled at by my dad when he starts an argument with me when I come by the house a few times a week. Or the swift snipes with a lot of energy behind them while trying to have another conversation LOL. My dad is normal but he consistently brings up food here and there and starts normally and then creates conflict and then gets loud LOL. He just has a problem with me and the amount of restriction I have for certain foods with natural toxins and lectins in them; not just grains, nuts, legumes, etc. He is 175 and 5'11 so he doesn't have a problem with food in regards to eating a very large amount more than he should but he certainly eats bad and too many carbs and over 300 grams a day.

When it comes to eating how you should it actually becomes a gift to understand how much we really have even though it seems restrictive: the fact that we have the ability to enjoy and taste our food thoroughly is so great. And eating right makes you understand that there shouldn't even be a consideration for any other type of eating because if you eat these other foods it's not eating but either a mistake, a need out of starvation, ingesting product that really isn't even food but a bad plant that is meant to be left alone or a grain, or a processed toy for taste. But that is a rather rough way of looking at it and I feel bad for those who haven't done the research.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19235)

on January 18, 2012
at 07:58 AM

Matt, from your other answers and questions here it sounds you are greatly restricting the foods you eat for rather theoretical reasons. Maybe if you are not eating enough it is understandable that you dad is worried about you?

Aa1f07e23a47aed0d07b712645e0d213

(313)

on January 19, 2012
at 03:15 AM

Well he more yells at me then worries lol. I just have been eating what I feel is right: I get over 110 grams of protein a day and over 100 in meat protein. A little over a hundred grams of fat and around 120 grams of carbs a day so I don't really have a problem with eating I just limit foods with significant natural toxins or aggressive lectins is all. I don't limit too many foods though I do limit a good amount lol: I do it out of whether or not I need to take the risk for my health and often times its no as I am full for my nutrition needs. But I see your point: just when I see some of

Aa1f07e23a47aed0d07b712645e0d213

(313)

on January 19, 2012
at 03:18 AM

The claims made by many good quality studies mention how eating a certain food inhibits DNA synthesis, causes cells to divide significantly, or something like that and then I see that these claims are not disproven: and the amount of inhibition isn't enough to sound off alarms but it is still enough in amount, I want to avoid that certain food.

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