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What else can I do on my road to a cure for migraines???

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 28, 2011 at 12:38 AM

I have been getting migraines since I was eighteen and went on the pill. For a long time, I had about one a week. When I started eating a paleo diet, I still got them, but usually only one per month, sometimes skipping a month. I have read through the migraine threads on here, and feel like I've tried everything except pharmaceuticals that I have ever heard of to cure these migraines. I really would love if everyone who has any advice at all would just chime in here, no matter how small or insignificant it may seem, yours may be the key to my cure! I avoid sugars, chocolate, alcohol, grains, and eat ample fats, bone broths, grass fed meats, probiotic rich vegetables, and relatively low carb overall. I've been experimenting with intermittent fasting, I've tried eating less protein and more fats, I've tried every mineral under the sun, I've tried acupuncture, chiropractic, energy healing of all varieties, yoga, GABA, other amino acids...I'm sure there's more that I'm not thinking of right now, but this list is good enough to give you all an idea of what I've tried...and all of it has helped in some way, just not enough to kick these migraines out of my life for good...I'm so tired of losing these days from my life, and don't want to wait until I hit menopause in another fifteen to twenty years to be through with them(not that menopause is a sure bet for ending them, but it's likely)...

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on November 10, 2011
at 06:00 AM

I take 12,000 iu most days, plus I tan.

13c5a9f1678d75b93f269cdcf69f14d5

(2339)

on November 02, 2011
at 03:38 PM

I forgot to add - sleeping in a pitch black room. Seemed to make things a bit worse at first, because I overslept, but I think it really helped in the long run.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on October 31, 2011
at 01:48 AM

Half of my closest friends have migraines (guys and grrls) and all I have to say is that you guys have some weird mind gifts... like telepathic empathy stuff that other peeps just don't have! Your brains are apparently wired differently. So I'm sorry you have migraines but on the flip side, it probably gives you super human powers. *haaa!* What are your thoughts? Do you strange people like to come up to you and share their life stories? Do people consult your 'take' on things?

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 31, 2011
at 12:16 AM

Thanks for such a thorough answer!

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on October 30, 2011
at 11:32 PM

I'd concur. Excellent points.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on October 30, 2011
at 08:13 PM

I know exactly what you're talking about! When I lived in Wisconsin I had migraine 2-5 days per week; here in NV it's a couple days per month max.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on October 30, 2011
at 08:12 PM

I've had severe migraine since I was 11. Food was never my main trigger, though, although junk food didn't help. For me, weather systems moving through have always been the big trigger and I'm thriving in southern NV where that rarely happens. Stress/grief are #2 for me and sleep deprivation is #3 with food a distant 4th.

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 30, 2011
at 06:56 PM

I have been very strict gluten free for years, but interesting that you would mention thyroid...I haven't had it checked, but my grandmother passed on recently because of complications from a very out of whack, long untreated thyroid....never thought to associate those, I better get it checked...

2bdc990a200584a385650cf68475f095

on October 28, 2011
at 08:00 PM

Rogue, I would try with either LSD or psilocybin mushrooms since the studies are mostly done with one of them.

61b801de5dc345b557cd4623d4a4f26b

(2682)

on October 28, 2011
at 07:03 PM

nm, just reached the question that said you are no longer using it. 8)

61b801de5dc345b557cd4623d4a4f26b

(2682)

on October 28, 2011
at 06:57 PM

Are you still on the pill?

417ac0e162dc468b8ca61a574e5cd3c0

on October 28, 2011
at 06:48 PM

Your line of thinking is common but often erroneous. Just because migraine comes with your menstrual cycle does NOT mean that the blood-hormone-level-changes of menstruation are a "primary" causative factor for migraine. They are usually more of a "precipitating" factor. In the other words, the monthly hormonal changes are the 99th straw or tipping point in a system where there are already 98 pre-existing physiological stressors (chemical, physical, structural and-or mental/emotional "straws"). It is the first 98 straws that are likely setting you up for migraine. Go get a lat. c-spine xray.

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 28, 2011
at 04:51 PM

Yes, I studied homeopathy for years myself and have seen three master homeopaths, all of whom helped me tremendously, just not with the migraines. I can't imagine migraines as frequesnt as yours, I'm so sorry. I also feel that even though I've reduced mine to once a month, I never want to give up on seeking a way to be rid of them entirely. Oh, and they do coincide with my cycle, but that hasn't helped me find my cure, and that is whay I predict that meopause will eliminate them if nothing does sooner.

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 28, 2011
at 04:46 PM

Well, I've tried a few versions. Once was very fat based, with low protein intake, one was very much meat based, and once I lived on broth with the meat in it for quite some time. The broth was the easiest for me, and I realized that I can't live comfortably eating only meat and fats...I need my veggies, and living without them didn't positivly impact my health.

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 28, 2011
at 03:16 PM

No, I haven't had an x-ray, that is interesting, but I wonder if it's still a possibility knowing that my migraines always come with my cycle...

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 28, 2011
at 02:21 PM

Thanks, I appreciate that...

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 28, 2011
at 02:18 PM

At this point, I honestly don't know what I could eliminate, but I like the potassium idea...on on occasion, I've stopped a migraine with megadoses of a variety of minerals, but it hasn't helped for the long haul.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on October 28, 2011
at 02:15 PM

Also, are you taking Mag & Zinc *currently*? I've noticed it can take quite awhile for the body to get replete. It's not like they are quick fixes either...

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 28, 2011
at 02:14 PM

Well, it's been a while, but I've used my share of quite a variety of psychedelics in the time since the migraines first began...really interesting though!

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on October 28, 2011
at 02:14 PM

Given that you wouldn't have been ovulating (and therefore no Progesterone) for the many years you were on the Pill, it makes sense to me that this *could* work--but definitely give it at least 3-6 months.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on October 28, 2011
at 02:05 PM

If you try it, I suggest using Pro-gest (no parabens & cheap on Amazon) and use according to directions. I used it pre-Primal for perimenopause symptoms & it did help.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 28, 2011
at 01:26 PM

It is probably even pre-paleo... Mushrooms were probably used around for eons. :P

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 28, 2011
at 01:26 PM

Its even in one House MD episode :)

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

(2399)

on October 28, 2011
at 01:25 PM

But -gasps- it's not Paleo ?!!! ;) A friend also reported a single low dose keeping his migrains off for several months now.

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

(2399)

on October 28, 2011
at 01:25 PM

But -gasps- it's not Paleo ?!!! ;)

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

(2399)

on October 28, 2011
at 01:23 PM

But *gaspa* it's not Paleo ?!!!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 28, 2011
at 01:22 PM

LSD is well known to heal cluster headaches in single usage. That type of headache finish in 80% of cases with suicide due to severe pain.

417ac0e162dc468b8ca61a574e5cd3c0

on October 28, 2011
at 06:37 AM

ahhhh. Got it. You tried chiropractic, but did the DC xray your neck? If so, was it shown to be be alordotic (no curvature) or with reversed lordosis (reversed curve)? If so, adjustments alone will never correct this problem. There are some cases where the intersegmental joint movement/alignment of the neck may be ok but the overall static posture of the neck may be contributing to the bio-mechanical/physiological milieu. If you have a reversed-lordosis neck then using a home device may be of help with migraines. You can check my website store to see the type of thing I am referring to.

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 28, 2011
at 06:12 AM

Oh, sorry that was unclear, I haven't been on the pill since about 1996.

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

(18706)

on October 28, 2011
at 04:30 AM

Thank you for the fix!

9e20abb05f3f6e3cc4bb107f8980aecd

(5939)

on October 28, 2011
at 03:44 AM

An even better link is this one: http://perfecthealthdiet.com/?p=2921.

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 28, 2011
at 03:26 AM

Thanks, yeah, I've read this before, and follow his recommendations already.

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 28, 2011
at 03:23 AM

Oh, and no dairy except butter, and I've lived without it long enough to know it's not a trigger.

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 28, 2011
at 03:22 AM

I've studied amino acid therapy quite a bit, and experimented on myself a lot as well...unfortunately, 5htp gives me migraines, as do a few others...l-tryptophan is good for me, works like 5htp to boost serotonin...great for my mood, no effect on migraine though.

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 28, 2011
at 03:19 AM

Yes, I've tried both vlc and zc...thanks!

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 28, 2011
at 03:18 AM

Check, check and check, thanks for coming in though!

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 28, 2011
at 03:17 AM

I've tried zinc, but have been wary of self treating with hormones..maybe I should give that a go.

41dfb1a4fecb38d24075ff52f13ccb28

on October 28, 2011
at 02:59 AM

+1 for this too! But I did want to mention the zinc I used in that question was gluconate, not picolinate. I'm not sure if it makes a difference, so I figured I'd mention it in case it does.

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

(9647)

on October 28, 2011
at 02:38 AM

Oh yeah, that would make sense. I'll edit, Amber can change if necessary.

41dfb1a4fecb38d24075ff52f13ccb28

on October 28, 2011
at 02:16 AM

I think it's this one: http://perfecthealthdiet.com/?p=472

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

(9647)

on October 28, 2011
at 01:40 AM

Ambimorph, your link doesn't seem to work.

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3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on October 30, 2011
at 11:41 PM

Rogue,

I'd second NoGlutenEver's thoughts.

Thyroid is underestimated as being a source of many conditions for diseases of Western Civ.

Thyroid also works in conjunction with adrenals to control minerals, growth, reproduction and inflammation.

Books you might find helpful:

--Broda Barnes -- he reported upon treating thyroid (and adrenals), patients with migraines had complete resolution of migraines. He was low carb (not ketotic) and anti-grain.

--Larry McCleary -- pediatric neurosurgeon who advises low carb and some supplements for migraines. I'd ignore any whole grain/bread references but otherwise his information is excellent. He has a blog as well.

Biological parameters you want to consider optimization for complete migraine prevention in your therapeutic plan:

(a) Thyroid panel for healthy, disease free: TSH ~ 1.0 (or ignore, this test is rather useless in many folks), Free T4 in upper 1/3, Free T3 in upper 1/3, low rT3, no thyroid antibodies

(b) Salivary cortisol x4 (ditto) -- normal curves

(c) Gut profile -- no intestinal permeability, no bloating, no signs/symptoms IBS

(d) Female hormone profile -- DHEA-S, progesterone, E1 E2 E3, testosterone in optimal range for you at your best. See an integrative practitioner. You can do this on your DIY but if you are clueless, it is harder and more time consuming. If you need any names, I can list a few paleo ones I trust. Two things common in our industrial age are estrogen dominance and relative progesterone deficiency. Do you have a 'menopot' (ab belly fat)? Were you vegetarian ever before (high carb grains and soy lead to these symptoms and gut permeability)?

Sounds like you've hacked the migraines well and can take it up a few notches with modern, neolithic approaches. What are your thoughts on CW for migraines? To me, obviously it appears to be failing you. I've worked with migraineurs and 100% failed pharmaceuticals, stress reduction and birth control hormone management. What worked from what I've observed? Gluten free and thyroid/adrenal optimization!

Here are some resources you might find informative:

http://www.drrind.com/therapies/metabolic-symptoms-matrix

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/how-to-eliminate-migraine_b_451311.html

Would love to hear your progress and what works for you. I always enjoy your comments and thoughts here at PH!

G

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on October 31, 2011
at 01:48 AM

Half of my closest friends have migraines (guys and grrls) and all I have to say is that you guys have some weird mind gifts... like telepathic empathy stuff that other peeps just don't have! Your brains are apparently wired differently. So I'm sorry you have migraines but on the flip side, it probably gives you super human powers. *haaa!* What are your thoughts? Do you strange people like to come up to you and share their life stories? Do people consult your 'take' on things?

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 31, 2011
at 12:16 AM

Thanks for such a thorough answer!

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100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

(18706)

on October 28, 2011
at 01:35 AM

Can I assume you've tried a ketogenic diet? You say relatively low carb, but have you gone to VLC or ZC? Even Paul Jaminet recommends it.

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 28, 2011
at 03:19 AM

Yes, I've tried both vlc and zc...thanks!

100fd85230060e754fc13394eee6d6f1

(18706)

on October 28, 2011
at 04:30 AM

Thank you for the fix!

41dfb1a4fecb38d24075ff52f13ccb28

on October 28, 2011
at 02:16 AM

I think it's this one: http://perfecthealthdiet.com/?p=472

9e20abb05f3f6e3cc4bb107f8980aecd

(5939)

on October 28, 2011
at 03:44 AM

An even better link is this one: http://perfecthealthdiet.com/?p=2921.

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

(9647)

on October 28, 2011
at 02:38 AM

Oh yeah, that would make sense. I'll edit, Amber can change if necessary.

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

(9647)

on October 28, 2011
at 01:40 AM

Ambimorph, your link doesn't seem to work.

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5139b8189a2286f2f69425128ccb764c

on October 28, 2011
at 06:57 AM

If I only got one migraine per month, I'd consider that a miracle.I am clocking anywhere from 12-18 days a month! Perhaps I misunderstood your question or perhaps you could recalibrate your expectations. I'd practically sell my soul to be rid of migraines, but after 30 years, I've finally come to the realization that the best I may be able to do is to reduce their frequency. Sometimes you can't change the hand you're dealt, no matter what you do. I actually felt better once I had accepted this reality for myself.

Are your migraines related to your menstrual cycle? That could give you a piece of the puzzle, but I assume you have already thought of that.

I'm in my late 50's and menopause is no cure, I can tell you. I have been helped with the intensity of my migraines by homeopathy. If you haven't tried this yet, I recommend it, but caution you to go to a real homeopath with deep training and experience.

Regarding the pharmaceuticals: I tried them and had a terrible experience with them (antidepressants, Depakine and the monster of them all, Topamax). I'd rather have the migraines than take them again but there are people who are helped by them. This is a difficult decision and one that needs to be carefully considered -- pro and con.

Those of us who are migraneurs have a difficult path to tread.

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 28, 2011
at 04:51 PM

Yes, I studied homeopathy for years myself and have seen three master homeopaths, all of whom helped me tremendously, just not with the migraines. I can't imagine migraines as frequesnt as yours, I'm so sorry. I also feel that even though I've reduced mine to once a month, I never want to give up on seeking a way to be rid of them entirely. Oh, and they do coincide with my cycle, but that hasn't helped me find my cure, and that is whay I predict that meopause will eliminate them if nothing does sooner.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on October 30, 2011
at 08:13 PM

I know exactly what you're talking about! When I lived in Wisconsin I had migraine 2-5 days per week; here in NV it's a couple days per month max.

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47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

(9647)

on October 28, 2011
at 07:00 AM

Well I don't really know much about this but you said you wanted all the ideas you could get ... Have you tried every combination of different techniques? I know that some things exclude each other so they can't be done at the same time (like zero-carb and moderate carb, say) but other things could be combined (like supplementing x and supplementing y, say). Once you're getting all the possible combinations in there that could add up to a daunting number of options for experimentation, but you may as well, right? You've probably done some of this already, but I thought it was worth a shot; maybe the majority of your experimentation has been "let's try x for a month, and then y for a month" and so on. Instead you can try xy together, and xyz, and so on. Just throwing something out there. Hope you feel better!

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 28, 2011
at 02:21 PM

Thanks, I appreciate that...

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96061d386f8929f50a4d71e0420e3d5d

(208)

on October 28, 2011
at 01:16 AM

http://coolinginflammation.blogspot.com/search/label/migraine

Have a read through this at the Cooling Inflammation blog. Great resource... Good luck!

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 28, 2011
at 03:26 AM

Thanks, yeah, I've read this before, and follow his recommendations already.

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41dfb1a4fecb38d24075ff52f13ccb28

on October 28, 2011
at 01:15 AM

Do you eat dairy? I can absolutely trigger migraines with dairy. I do far better without it.

Also, have you looked into 5-HTP at all? I had the idea when I realized that the migraine meds my doc prescribed were somewhat similar. This is still new in it's testing phase for me, but it's showing promise. I haven't tried it as a daily preventative, but more as a medicine.. like if I feel one coming on.

From here:

Some research indicates that 5-HTP may prevent migraines and reduce the frequency and severity of migraines, however large randomized controlled trials are needed. In one study, 124 people were given 5-HTP (600 mg/day) or the drug methysergide. After six months, 5-HTP was found to be as effective as methysergide in reducing the severity and duration of migraines.

Google around about the 5-htp/migraine thing if you haven't tried it. I can't guarantee it's success, but it was interesting enough for me to give it a shot if I have one sneak through.

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 28, 2011
at 03:23 AM

Oh, and no dairy except butter, and I've lived without it long enough to know it's not a trigger.

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 28, 2011
at 03:22 AM

I've studied amino acid therapy quite a bit, and experimented on myself a lot as well...unfortunately, 5htp gives me migraines, as do a few others...l-tryptophan is good for me, works like 5htp to boost serotonin...great for my mood, no effect on migraine though.

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13c5a9f1678d75b93f269cdcf69f14d5

(2339)

on October 30, 2011
at 06:39 PM

Have you had your thyroid checked, including rT3? That and absolutely no gluten (ie a clean grill, not just taking off the hamburger bun) did a lot for me. The other things that seemed to help was improving my omega 3/6 ratio.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on October 30, 2011
at 11:32 PM

I'd concur. Excellent points.

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 30, 2011
at 06:56 PM

I have been very strict gluten free for years, but interesting that you would mention thyroid...I haven't had it checked, but my grandmother passed on recently because of complications from a very out of whack, long untreated thyroid....never thought to associate those, I better get it checked...

13c5a9f1678d75b93f269cdcf69f14d5

(2339)

on November 02, 2011
at 03:38 PM

I forgot to add - sleeping in a pitch black room. Seemed to make things a bit worse at first, because I overslept, but I think it really helped in the long run.

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on October 28, 2011
at 11:36 AM

A systematic elimination diet would probably be helpful.

I also find taking a good dose of potassium can kick some of my headaches/migraines (electrolyte imbalance).

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 28, 2011
at 02:18 PM

At this point, I honestly don't know what I could eliminate, but I like the potassium idea...on on occasion, I've stopped a migraine with megadoses of a variety of minerals, but it hasn't helped for the long haul.

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Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on October 28, 2011
at 02:46 AM

Second the Magnesium.

Have you tried Zinc Picolinate?

Look at the first answer to this question: http://paleohacks.com/questions/64167/ladies-anyone-use-zinc-to-prevent-menstrual-cramps#axzz1c2Zz1YQv

Also bio-identical Progesterone cream can be helpful, especially short-term.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on October 28, 2011
at 02:15 PM

Also, are you taking Mag & Zinc *currently*? I've noticed it can take quite awhile for the body to get replete. It's not like they are quick fixes either...

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on October 28, 2011
at 02:14 PM

Given that you wouldn't have been ovulating (and therefore no Progesterone) for the many years you were on the Pill, it makes sense to me that this *could* work--but definitely give it at least 3-6 months.

41dfb1a4fecb38d24075ff52f13ccb28

on October 28, 2011
at 02:59 AM

+1 for this too! But I did want to mention the zinc I used in that question was gluconate, not picolinate. I'm not sure if it makes a difference, so I figured I'd mention it in case it does.

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 28, 2011
at 03:17 AM

I've tried zinc, but have been wary of self treating with hormones..maybe I should give that a go.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on October 28, 2011
at 02:05 PM

If you try it, I suggest using Pro-gest (no parabens & cheap on Amazon) and use according to directions. I used it pre-Primal for perimenopause symptoms & it did help.

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Ef2f6c723983d7fe7a06bd57af6adeed

(1725)

on October 28, 2011
at 02:13 AM

Supplement magnesium.
Hydrate well (drink 1/2 your weight in ounces per day).
Get restful sleep (10am - 6pm).

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 28, 2011
at 03:18 AM

Check, check and check, thanks for coming in though!

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1ea8d17bad42dc54fb7a8a178e3db309

on August 14, 2012
at 08:54 PM

I, like you, tried EVERYTHING, and little helped long-term. My migraines got worse overtime. I now have chronic migraines (that means 15+/month) and finally decided to try the medical route because losing a lot of time and productivity to these things was killing me. They didn't go away with menopause. First thing, if you decide to go that route is to find a neurologist who specializes in head pain. There's no way anyone else can keep up in this area otherwise.

I'm now taking Topamax and get Botox shots every 3 months. With those, my migraines are reduced in frequency to once a week and severity by 2/3. The drugs work well.... don't want to take them but they're fine. I accept this is something I have to live with. Hey, we all have stuff to live with, right?

Jigsaw Health 5-HTP, 400 mg, 2x/day worked wonders for me for quite a while before it stopped.

Most of us need to change the way with live... we need to adjust our lives, too. Migraineurs tend to be too tightly wound, leading to more migraines. We need to figure out what we can control (which is usually very little), and let up on the rest.

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Bcb2f5436d11467e89123680c046b858

(1356)

on October 31, 2011
at 12:27 AM

I am trying butterbur for my 16-year-old son. He hasn't been taking it long enough to determine whether it has made a difference. There have been several positive studies on it, here's one: http://www.neurology.org/content/63/12/2240.abstract

A neurologist he saw recommended magnesium, CoQ10, B-complex, D, & lots of protein.

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Daac5f2510a6c0466f22dac57e40d070

on October 28, 2011
at 06:49 PM

Hi Rogue,

Ophthalmologist Kaisu Viikari has suggested that nowadays people do too much close work so their ciliary muscle (in the eyes) gets cramped, which might cause migraine in some people. She also believes that this is one of the main causes of myopia. Her "medicine" for migraine are plus lenses strong enough.

http://kaisuviikari.com/ (here you can download all of her books freely)

Her book Tetralogia (1972; this book is in Finnish language) had nice statistics that of her migraine patients - 48 had been cured - 32 had good results - 86 had no success so far (however, Viikari wrote that they were "unfinished", because many of those were probably new patients) - 8 refused the treatment

In Panacea (1978) there is much more text but I haven't read that... However, there is some data of 100 consecutive migraine patients - 56 symptom-free - 14 much better - 8 better - 8 treatment interrupted / did not follow instructions - 14 no answer

Maybe this kind of approach could help you if dietary approaches do not work?

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68f2734a5078a7106f560a7079df45fd

on October 28, 2011
at 04:25 PM

Hi,

What was your "zero carb" diet like?

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 28, 2011
at 04:46 PM

Well, I've tried a few versions. Once was very fat based, with low protein intake, one was very much meat based, and once I lived on broth with the meat in it for quite some time. The broth was the easiest for me, and I realized that I can't live comfortably eating only meat and fats...I need my veggies, and living without them didn't positivly impact my health.

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84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

(2399)

on October 28, 2011
at 12:20 PM

1) If someone thinks that psychoactive substances are somewhat evil please don't read this post. But do read more ;)

2) This type of treatment is not to be taken lightly. Know your body, know your source, know your substance.

One approach would be trying with low (!) dose psychedelics. No wall melting or ego death mind you.

The Effects Of Psilocybin And LSD On Cluster Headache: A Series Of 53 Cases" http://www.helpforheadaches.com/articles/psilocybin.htm

Anectodal reports about Salvia divinorum are out there too.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 28, 2011
at 01:26 PM

It is probably even pre-paleo... Mushrooms were probably used around for eons. :P

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 28, 2011
at 01:22 PM

LSD is well known to heal cluster headaches in single usage. That type of headache finish in 80% of cases with suicide due to severe pain.

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

(2399)

on October 28, 2011
at 01:23 PM

But *gaspa* it's not Paleo ?!!!

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 28, 2011
at 02:14 PM

Well, it's been a while, but I've used my share of quite a variety of psychedelics in the time since the migraines first began...really interesting though!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 28, 2011
at 01:26 PM

Its even in one House MD episode :)

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

(2399)

on October 28, 2011
at 01:25 PM

But -gasps- it's not Paleo ?!!! ;)

84666a86108dee8d11cbbc85b6382083

(2399)

on October 28, 2011
at 01:25 PM

But -gasps- it's not Paleo ?!!! ;) A friend also reported a single low dose keeping his migrains off for several months now.

2bdc990a200584a385650cf68475f095

on October 28, 2011
at 08:00 PM

Rogue, I would try with either LSD or psilocybin mushrooms since the studies are mostly done with one of them.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 28, 2011
at 08:52 AM

  • Intervenous MgSO4 is considered very effective for chronic migraines. Not an easy thing to do, but perhaps you want to megadose on Mg when you have headache possibly in as many forms as you can get.
  • Cannabis might help or it might make it worst. You need to try it.
  • LDN is safe to try.
  • Piracetam + Choline might help by improving circulation.
  • Cold shower

Check out this database of user stories, you might find something helpful there.

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417ac0e162dc468b8ca61a574e5cd3c0

on October 28, 2011
at 05:48 AM

I am not sure if I am missing something here...are you still on the pill? If so, have you gone off it for at least one year while engaging in a mostly-paleo diet/lifestyle? If so, what were the results at the end of that year?

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 28, 2011
at 06:12 AM

Oh, sorry that was unclear, I haven't been on the pill since about 1996.

417ac0e162dc468b8ca61a574e5cd3c0

on October 28, 2011
at 06:37 AM

ahhhh. Got it. You tried chiropractic, but did the DC xray your neck? If so, was it shown to be be alordotic (no curvature) or with reversed lordosis (reversed curve)? If so, adjustments alone will never correct this problem. There are some cases where the intersegmental joint movement/alignment of the neck may be ok but the overall static posture of the neck may be contributing to the bio-mechanical/physiological milieu. If you have a reversed-lordosis neck then using a home device may be of help with migraines. You can check my website store to see the type of thing I am referring to.

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on October 28, 2011
at 03:16 PM

No, I haven't had an x-ray, that is interesting, but I wonder if it's still a possibility knowing that my migraines always come with my cycle...

417ac0e162dc468b8ca61a574e5cd3c0

on October 28, 2011
at 06:48 PM

Your line of thinking is common but often erroneous. Just because migraine comes with your menstrual cycle does NOT mean that the blood-hormone-level-changes of menstruation are a "primary" causative factor for migraine. They are usually more of a "precipitating" factor. In the other words, the monthly hormonal changes are the 99th straw or tipping point in a system where there are already 98 pre-existing physiological stressors (chemical, physical, structural and-or mental/emotional "straws"). It is the first 98 straws that are likely setting you up for migraine. Go get a lat. c-spine xray.

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on November 10, 2011
at 05:04 AM

Check your Vit D level and up it. Seriously.

Ed983a42344945b1ff70fd9597a23493

on November 10, 2011
at 06:00 AM

I take 12,000 iu most days, plus I tan.

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