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What are your top ten Things you believe to be paleo truths?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created October 22, 2011 at 11:10 PM

What do you live by?

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on October 26, 2011
at 10:23 PM

My bad, I saw that I'd misspelled it later and my apologies to Chris. I had also visited a web site with the other last name.

2bdc990a200584a385650cf68475f095

on October 24, 2011
at 12:43 PM

That is sarcasm right, grace ? :D

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

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on October 24, 2011
at 02:47 AM

Jobs did acid once upon a time... I don't think that's too paleo...

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

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on October 24, 2011
at 02:45 AM

Wise. How about put #2 and 9 together for some real paleo fun? j/k.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

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on October 24, 2011
at 02:45 AM

I concur - -#10 as 1!

Bdf98e5a57befa6f0877f978ba09871c

on October 23, 2011
at 04:02 PM

awesome answer. especially 2,3, and 8.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 23, 2011
at 03:51 PM

And Steve Jobs was not a low stress type of person, from what I understand, either...

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on October 23, 2011
at 07:25 AM

Futureboy - I wasn't quoting Steve Jobs because I agreed with his dietary choices

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on October 23, 2011
at 07:24 AM

April - yes you are correct, by "weeds" I was not referring to the Paleo diet as such. I think everyone should be on a Paleo diet irrespective of their current health, weight, etc. I also am all for wanting to know more about what they are getting into. Thanks for the question!

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on October 23, 2011
at 05:46 AM

Why didn't Steve "focus" on a "simplified" diet that didn't give him cancer? (<---maybe trolling??)

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on October 23, 2011
at 04:30 AM

Aravind, I don't have a point, which is why I'm asking questions. Sorry, I didn't understand what you meant when you said "getting into the weed." I thought that phrase meant adopting a Paleo lifestyle. Now I see that you meant reading pages and pages of stuff about health/nutrition, correct? I agree that obsession is bad but you gotta give a little leeway when people simply want to know more about what they're getting into initially. Meredith, of course I would never let my diet get in the way of my relationships either. I feel bad for anyone who does that.

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on October 23, 2011
at 04:29 AM

Aravind, I don't have a point, which is why I'm asking questions. Sorry, I didn't understand what you meant when you said "getting into the weed." I thought that phrase meant adopting a Paleo lifestyle. Now I see that you meant reading pages and pages of stuff about health/nutrition, correct? I agree that obsession is bad but you gotta give a little leeway when people simply want to know more about what they're getting into initially.

Meredith, of course I would never let my diet get in the way of my relationships either. I feel bad for anyone who does that.

7f37cd3c3302e8fed5e10fba35f99378

(33)

on October 23, 2011
at 04:16 AM

what's Dogma mean?

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

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on October 23, 2011
at 03:14 AM

@April I just looked at your profile I maybe you haven't been around long enough to read about all the "hack my # of grams of this or that" posts. Or the "hack my butt and/or eye spasms after eating cheese" questions. I myself love to read all about foods and exercise and how it effects my body. BUT if it takes away from my life I am NOT going to do it. For example, I will not kick my husband and kids out if they want to eat bread. I love them. Simple as that. (People have admitted to doing this and ending relationships over diet here which I think is CRAZY!)

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(20378)

on October 23, 2011
at 02:52 AM

Great Question!!!

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on October 23, 2011
at 02:46 AM

I am not "saying" any such thing. Where did I write that? I said I am not talking about adherence (i.e. eating too strict). I never said seeking knowledge is synonymous with orthorexia. Obsessing about it is my point. If there is some point you are trying to make, maybe it would be easier if you told me so I could thoughtfully respond because I am not getting it. Thanks!

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on October 23, 2011
at 02:36 AM

So are you saying Paleo won't benefit some people (i.e. those who don't have health problems or want to lose weight) and that eating too strict Paleo is borderline dangerous? I guess I just don't understand why wanting to know which foods are good for you (in terms of our biochemistry and physiology) may seem like orthorexia.

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on October 23, 2011
at 01:41 AM

I took care of the romp. That's what life partners do for one another!

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on October 23, 2011
at 01:41 AM

I got the romp covered. That's what life partners do, they complement one another

B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

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on October 23, 2011
at 01:31 AM

@cliff, that may be true, but in the last month my 16 year old daughter opened her first chequing account, went to her dentist appointment, found a new doctor and got a part-time job all on her own with no help from the mother her raised her to be independent out of love for her, not because i owed her.

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on October 23, 2011
at 01:29 AM

Oh hubbs - I wish I could of gotten the romp in the hay in there. Maybe that's all part of bringing home the wild game so I can clean it. Sooo dirty! (What the hell am I talking about??) I think #10 is pretty much my #1 though.

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on October 23, 2011
at 01:27 AM

@cliff “I owe nothing to my brothers, nor do I gather debts from them. I ask none to live for me, nor do I live for any others. I covet no man's soul, nor is my soul theirs to covet.” Ayn Rand This is what I meant. Not that we can't learn from and teach others, but that I believe I ask none to live for me, nor do I live for any others.

C0fcb48d7da4f76fac17318efd2cd6b8

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on October 23, 2011
at 01:26 AM

@cliff “I owe nothing to my brothers, nor do I gather debts from them. I ask none to live for me, nor do I live for any others. I covet no man's soul, nor is my soul theirs to covet.” Ayn Rand This is what I meant. Not that we can learn and teach from others, but that I ask none to live for me, nor do I live for any others.

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on October 23, 2011
at 01:25 AM

+1 wife o' mine

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on October 23, 2011
at 01:24 AM

Absolutely agree with number one.

B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

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on October 23, 2011
at 01:21 AM

@Meredith, 10 years ago i would have totally agreed :)

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on October 23, 2011
at 01:19 AM

As far as the basics are concerned, of course that is a problem since there is some contention. Notwithstanding the debates about macronutrients, saturated fat, yada yada yada, I think the list I have given and many others on this thread too generally would be agreed upon by most Paleo people. If you are trying to remediate a specific health issue, then the need for "getting into the weed" is a different matter. But for most people, I think there is a point of diminishing returns vis-a-vis the opportunity cost for other things one could be doing with their time to enjoy life and love people.

220994a1bcff1923ef0388192bdba8d4

on October 23, 2011
at 01:17 AM

I really liked number 8

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on October 23, 2011
at 01:12 AM

@April - Orthorexics are people that are obsessed with healthy eating. I extend this to include incessant research about nutrition which goes beyond mere intellectual curiosity. Adherence is not the issue. It's when it becomes an obsession and impacts one living their life. I never claimed that I do not eat non Paleo foods or have a perfect diet (whatever that means). Quilt asked for Paleo truisms and so I just threw in my 2 cents.

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on October 23, 2011
at 01:11 AM

I may say that red wine is the best drink. Otherwise, nice!

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on October 23, 2011
at 01:08 AM

Ahhhh - it's more all "in the cloud". I like that. Linear thinking ain't my bag maybe. Xoxoxooooxxxx

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on October 23, 2011
at 01:03 AM

@Meredith - My list is not rank ordered

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

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on October 23, 2011
at 12:58 AM

@sage- I guess your kids won't know jack in the wild. Humans wouldn't know anything without their elders telling them what to do. Plus you chose to have your children they didn't choose to be born.

B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

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on October 23, 2011
at 12:58 AM

well said..or wrote :)

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on October 23, 2011
at 12:56 AM

A few questions: 1) what do you believe are the "basics" of nutrition in relation to the Paleo diet? 2) how do you distinguish orthorexia from someone who eats strictly Paleo and refuses to eat excess fructose, grains, soy or other non-Paleo foods (as you seemingly seem to do). I know extreme cases of orthorexia would be that person would rather starve than eat a pizza but let's say in the mildest conditions, what draws the line between orthorexia and adhering to strict Paleo?

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on October 23, 2011
at 12:54 AM

BTW why is get laid so low on your list? Granted on my list it wouldn't even rate right now. But I think your #10 should be #1.

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on October 23, 2011
at 12:48 AM

Hi Babe! What's up? A little ph? I'm down with that.

B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

(10255)

on October 23, 2011
at 12:46 AM

everytime i read "chillax" i think of that annoying kit kat commercial

B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

(10255)

on October 22, 2011
at 11:58 PM

that is an awesome list!

B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

(10255)

on October 22, 2011
at 11:56 PM

i owe my kids nothing- but i give to them out of love

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on October 22, 2011
at 11:45 PM

"I owe nothing to no one, not ever ever ever." I thought humans were social creatures... What about your kids??

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on October 22, 2011
at 11:33 PM

It's Chris Kresser: http://chriskresser.com/9-steps-to-perfect-health-3-eat-real-food

B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

(10255)

on October 22, 2011
at 11:30 PM

+1 for the 9th one

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on October 22, 2011
at 11:19 PM

That is one......

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3003b5a0c15cf8cfbf152cf224673a04

(248)

on October 22, 2011
at 11:20 PM

Hmm. I don't think you need ten. Paleo is pretty simple.

Let's see. I live mostly by this:

  1. Processed food is bad
  2. Sugar is a processed food
  3. Bread and other grain stuffs are processed foods
  4. Your body needs to move
  5. Your body needs to sleep
  6. You need to be social
  7. Having fun is an important part of life
  8. Get outside every day
  9. Go hungry once in a while
  10. Get away from the screen

Wow. I did have ten :-)

B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

(10255)

on October 22, 2011
at 11:30 PM

+1 for the 9th one

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B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

(10255)

on October 22, 2011
at 11:16 PM

  1. i eat healthfully
  2. sloppy sex is paleo
  3. pure water is the best drink
  4. kraft peanut butter is evil; pure evil hiding behind cute teddy bears
  5. chocolate is best when it is not sweetened
  6. in spite of what my doctor says i do not need fruit to survive; but it makes life so much sweeter
  7. in spite of what my doctor says i do not need whole grains to survive; end of story
  8. living is never easy if you are truly living
  9. living together is better than existing together; connect with people
  10. it is a rewarding journey, not a destination

B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

(10255)

on October 23, 2011
at 01:21 AM

@Meredith, 10 years ago i would have totally agreed :)

Bdf98e5a57befa6f0877f978ba09871c

on October 23, 2011
at 04:02 PM

awesome answer. especially 2,3, and 8.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25482)

on October 22, 2011
at 11:19 PM

That is one......

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on October 24, 2011
at 02:45 AM

Wise. How about put #2 and 9 together for some real paleo fun? j/k.

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on October 23, 2011
at 01:11 AM

I may say that red wine is the best drink. Otherwise, nice!

220994a1bcff1923ef0388192bdba8d4

on October 23, 2011
at 01:17 AM

I really liked number 8

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D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on October 22, 2011
at 11:56 PM

  1. Avoid excess fructose
  2. Avoid grains (particularly gluten)
  3. Avoid excess Omega-6 (e.g. vegetable oils)
  4. Avoid soy
  5. Focus on eating real foods that my ancestors likely ate....or should have eaten so as to have not screwed me over today vis-a-vis epigenetics so that at least my progeny aren't further damaged
  6. Get adequate sleep
  7. Move around and stay active
  8. Get laid
  9. Chillax and be mindful, in the moment
  10. Realize that diet is but one cog in the machine. Stop obsessing about nutrition once you have the basics down and remediate your past metabolic derangements. Orthorexia is real.

To quote Steve Jobs - "Focus and simplify"

EDIT - My list is not rank ordered, nor is it the "be all, end all". It's just a list of ten things, that's all

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on October 23, 2011
at 03:14 AM

@April I just looked at your profile I maybe you haven't been around long enough to read about all the "hack my # of grams of this or that" posts. Or the "hack my butt and/or eye spasms after eating cheese" questions. I myself love to read all about foods and exercise and how it effects my body. BUT if it takes away from my life I am NOT going to do it. For example, I will not kick my husband and kids out if they want to eat bread. I love them. Simple as that. (People have admitted to doing this and ending relationships over diet here which I think is CRAZY!)

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on October 23, 2011
at 02:46 AM

I am not "saying" any such thing. Where did I write that? I said I am not talking about adherence (i.e. eating too strict). I never said seeking knowledge is synonymous with orthorexia. Obsessing about it is my point. If there is some point you are trying to make, maybe it would be easier if you told me so I could thoughtfully respond because I am not getting it. Thanks!

B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

(10255)

on October 23, 2011
at 12:46 AM

everytime i read "chillax" i think of that annoying kit kat commercial

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on October 23, 2011
at 01:03 AM

@Meredith - My list is not rank ordered

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on October 23, 2011
at 04:29 AM

Aravind, I don't have a point, which is why I'm asking questions. Sorry, I didn't understand what you meant when you said "getting into the weed." I thought that phrase meant adopting a Paleo lifestyle. Now I see that you meant reading pages and pages of stuff about health/nutrition, correct? I agree that obsession is bad but you gotta give a little leeway when people simply want to know more about what they're getting into initially.

Meredith, of course I would never let my diet get in the way of my relationships either. I feel bad for anyone who does that.

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on October 23, 2011
at 01:12 AM

@April - Orthorexics are people that are obsessed with healthy eating. I extend this to include incessant research about nutrition which goes beyond mere intellectual curiosity. Adherence is not the issue. It's when it becomes an obsession and impacts one living their life. I never claimed that I do not eat non Paleo foods or have a perfect diet (whatever that means). Quilt asked for Paleo truisms and so I just threw in my 2 cents.

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on October 23, 2011
at 01:08 AM

Ahhhh - it's more all "in the cloud". I like that. Linear thinking ain't my bag maybe. Xoxoxooooxxxx

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on October 23, 2011
at 12:54 AM

BTW why is get laid so low on your list? Granted on my list it wouldn't even rate right now. But I think your #10 should be #1.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

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on October 24, 2011
at 02:47 AM

Jobs did acid once upon a time... I don't think that's too paleo...

2bdc990a200584a385650cf68475f095

on October 24, 2011
at 12:43 PM

That is sarcasm right, grace ? :D

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on October 23, 2011
at 01:19 AM

As far as the basics are concerned, of course that is a problem since there is some contention. Notwithstanding the debates about macronutrients, saturated fat, yada yada yada, I think the list I have given and many others on this thread too generally would be agreed upon by most Paleo people. If you are trying to remediate a specific health issue, then the need for "getting into the weed" is a different matter. But for most people, I think there is a point of diminishing returns vis-a-vis the opportunity cost for other things one could be doing with their time to enjoy life and love people.

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on October 23, 2011
at 04:30 AM

Aravind, I don't have a point, which is why I'm asking questions. Sorry, I didn't understand what you meant when you said "getting into the weed." I thought that phrase meant adopting a Paleo lifestyle. Now I see that you meant reading pages and pages of stuff about health/nutrition, correct? I agree that obsession is bad but you gotta give a little leeway when people simply want to know more about what they're getting into initially. Meredith, of course I would never let my diet get in the way of my relationships either. I feel bad for anyone who does that.

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on October 23, 2011
at 07:25 AM

Futureboy - I wasn't quoting Steve Jobs because I agreed with his dietary choices

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(10663)

on October 23, 2011
at 12:56 AM

A few questions: 1) what do you believe are the "basics" of nutrition in relation to the Paleo diet? 2) how do you distinguish orthorexia from someone who eats strictly Paleo and refuses to eat excess fructose, grains, soy or other non-Paleo foods (as you seemingly seem to do). I know extreme cases of orthorexia would be that person would rather starve than eat a pizza but let's say in the mildest conditions, what draws the line between orthorexia and adhering to strict Paleo?

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

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on October 23, 2011
at 12:48 AM

Hi Babe! What's up? A little ph? I'm down with that.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 23, 2011
at 03:51 PM

And Steve Jobs was not a low stress type of person, from what I understand, either...

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on October 23, 2011
at 05:46 AM

Why didn't Steve "focus" on a "simplified" diet that didn't give him cancer? (<---maybe trolling??)

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on October 23, 2011
at 02:36 AM

So are you saying Paleo won't benefit some people (i.e. those who don't have health problems or want to lose weight) and that eating too strict Paleo is borderline dangerous? I guess I just don't understand why wanting to know which foods are good for you (in terms of our biochemistry and physiology) may seem like orthorexia.

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on October 23, 2011
at 07:24 AM

April - yes you are correct, by "weeds" I was not referring to the Paleo diet as such. I think everyone should be on a Paleo diet irrespective of their current health, weight, etc. I also am all for wanting to know more about what they are getting into. Thanks for the question!

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on October 22, 2011
at 11:51 PM

Some of mine are pretty similar to Andreas, but I'll list them anyway:

  1. Eat real food.
  2. Buy food directly from the farmer whenever possible
  3. Avoid grains--especially gluten.
  4. Avoid NADs: soy, industrial seed oils, and processed sugar.
  5. Get lots of sun.
  6. Spend time in nature.
  7. Spend time socializing.
  8. Exercise your body.
  9. Exercise your brain.
  10. Love others.

B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

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on October 22, 2011
at 11:58 PM

that is an awesome list!

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0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

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on October 23, 2011
at 01:22 AM

1 it's more what I don't eat rather than do eat - grains, legumes, seed oils, starch in general

2 Basing my diet on healthy protein and fat like home grown eggs, wild game and grass fed animals. (This includes cleaning and prepping our animals and using as much of the animal including offal as possible).

3 Performing inteval exercise rather than long cardio type exercise.

4 Getting sun and/or outdoor time (in WA being outside does not mean sun necessarily).

5 Sleeping or getting into bed (calm down Aravind) at 9 pm and making my kids stay down till 7 am.

6 Playing with my kids.

7 Having a hobby that expands my horizons like reading extensively, learning guitar (I am trying to do this via YouTube right now - seriously) or drawing as a meditation.

8 Fasting - I am starting to believe that concerted "non-eating" time is critical to hormonal harmony.

9 Targeted supplementation since our modern crops and soils are depleted.

10 Laughing - a lot.

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on October 23, 2011
at 01:25 AM

+1 wife o' mine

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

(15976)

on October 23, 2011
at 01:24 AM

Absolutely agree with number one.

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on October 23, 2011
at 01:41 AM

I got the romp covered. That's what life partners do, they complement one another

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on October 24, 2011
at 02:45 AM

I concur - -#10 as 1!

D1c02d4fc5125a670cf419dbb3e18ba7

on October 23, 2011
at 01:41 AM

I took care of the romp. That's what life partners do for one another!

0dbd7154d909b97fe774d1655754f195

(16131)

on October 23, 2011
at 01:29 AM

Oh hubbs - I wish I could of gotten the romp in the hay in there. Maybe that's all part of bringing home the wild game so I can clean it. Sooo dirty! (What the hell am I talking about??) I think #10 is pretty much my #1 though.

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on October 23, 2011
at 01:57 AM

  1. Eat like an animal.
  2. Move like an animal.
  3. Love like an animal.
  4. Play like an animal.
  5. Sleep like an animal.
  6. Express yourself as an animal.
  7. Treat the World as an animal would.
  8. Raise kids as an animal.
  9. Protect the family as an animal would.
  10. Treat others as an animal would.

For those that need it: 'animal' = instinctual, without guilt, as Nature intended, in harmony & balance with the World.

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D1bff160994b1aac13429323a43d425d

on October 23, 2011
at 12:44 AM

  1. Avoid Paleo Nutrition Dogma
  2. Repeat step 1
  3. you know the drill

7f37cd3c3302e8fed5e10fba35f99378

(33)

on October 23, 2011
at 04:16 AM

what's Dogma mean?

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1d9af5db8833413037be3ac48964714f

on October 22, 2011
at 11:22 PM

  1. Changing our behavior in recognition of evolutionary realities can generate huge benefits for health and wellness???even as we take advantage of modern wonders such as emergency medicine, computers, and flush toilets.
  2. Unfortunately, most people can't be persuaded to eat this way, no matter how much you show them how healthy you have become or how many scientific studies you cite.
  3. No one can make me go back to eating an industrial Western diet.

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7f37cd3c3302e8fed5e10fba35f99378

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on October 23, 2011
at 04:17 AM

A big part of Paleo is you eat Paleo, you can stop trying so hard in life and just succeed.

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3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

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on October 23, 2011
at 12:51 AM

I believe our bodies and minds are ALWAYS correct in their adaptations to current internal and external stresses. All disease states are simply a physiological adaptive state to the previous and current stresses. To effect our health we must change the STRESSES that have produced this adaptive state rather than attempting to interfere with the bodies appropriate responses to such. There is a small percent of genetic disease that does not conform to this (not genetic "predisposition"....only actual hard wired genetic disease like Down's Syndrome).

This is not paleo per say but is my health paradigm. And eating paleo absolutely is aimed at rectifying dietary stressors. A vital part of the health puzzle.

B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

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on October 23, 2011
at 12:58 AM

well said..or wrote :)

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C0fcb48d7da4f76fac17318efd2cd6b8

on October 22, 2011
at 11:35 PM

  1. I am an animal.
  2. My nature is fundamentally a hunter and a gatherer.
  3. I owe nothing to no one, not ever ever ever.
  4. There are natural rhythms to my life.
  5. Everything and everyone is connected in some way or another.
  6. My animal body likes good clean meat and feels invaded when I eat grain and too much sugar.
  7. I love to feel alive- avoid things that make me feel dead.
  8. My hands and brain can make wonderful things, including fire, my own shoes, clothes, shelter, and food.
  9. Human beings can be wondrous and glorious if given the right circumstances.
  10. Listening is always better than talking.

B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

(10255)

on October 22, 2011
at 11:56 PM

i owe my kids nothing- but i give to them out of love

B4e1fa6a8cf43d2b69d97a99dfca262c

(10255)

on October 23, 2011
at 01:31 AM

@cliff, that may be true, but in the last month my 16 year old daughter opened her first chequing account, went to her dentist appointment, found a new doctor and got a part-time job all on her own with no help from the mother her raised her to be independent out of love for her, not because i owed her.

C0fcb48d7da4f76fac17318efd2cd6b8

(4069)

on October 23, 2011
at 01:27 AM

@cliff “I owe nothing to my brothers, nor do I gather debts from them. I ask none to live for me, nor do I live for any others. I covet no man's soul, nor is my soul theirs to covet.” Ayn Rand This is what I meant. Not that we can't learn from and teach others, but that I believe I ask none to live for me, nor do I live for any others.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on October 22, 2011
at 11:45 PM

"I owe nothing to no one, not ever ever ever." I thought humans were social creatures... What about your kids??

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on October 23, 2011
at 12:58 AM

@sage- I guess your kids won't know jack in the wild. Humans wouldn't know anything without their elders telling them what to do. Plus you chose to have your children they didn't choose to be born.

C0fcb48d7da4f76fac17318efd2cd6b8

(4069)

on October 23, 2011
at 01:26 AM

@cliff “I owe nothing to my brothers, nor do I gather debts from them. I ask none to live for me, nor do I live for any others. I covet no man's soul, nor is my soul theirs to covet.” Ayn Rand This is what I meant. Not that we can learn and teach from others, but that I ask none to live for me, nor do I live for any others.

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96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on October 22, 2011
at 11:20 PM

1 - (Chris Kessler, I think) "If it has a bag or a box, it's probably not Primal/Paleo." 2 - Listen to your body

7dc950fc76a046048e683d2a27dced37

on October 22, 2011
at 11:33 PM

It's Chris Kresser: http://chriskresser.com/9-steps-to-perfect-health-3-eat-real-food

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on October 26, 2011
at 10:23 PM

My bad, I saw that I'd misspelled it later and my apologies to Chris. I had also visited a web site with the other last name.

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