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Universal Truths

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Created October 04, 2011 at 10:24 PM

Are there any universal truths when it comes to eating a Paleo diet ? Every time someone comes out with a new idea, 50 people shoot it down.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 17, 2012
at 12:28 PM

Some people say that generally all PUFAs are bad because they are chemically instable, but as an exception we need trace amounts of omega-3 in the diet.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 17, 2012
at 12:24 PM

Not 'vegetable' oils, but rather oils from seeds and grains. Coconut and olive/avocado oils are fine.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 05, 2011
at 06:46 PM

How hard is very hard, doc? I noticed you didn't say impossible, so it must be possible to get to optimum from whatever your current state is, right?

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

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on October 05, 2011
at 05:23 PM

Yes wheat for sure. Anything with gluten.

8a3fdcbbec724506de15c14bb6271264

(435)

on October 05, 2011
at 04:51 PM

Aren't you forgetting wheat?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on October 05, 2011
at 03:56 PM

Actually, those all those except meat are accepted as true cross diet/nation/medicine/whatever....

96061d386f8929f50a4d71e0420e3d5d

(208)

on October 05, 2011
at 02:55 PM

Can't argue with those!

Bdf98e5a57befa6f0877f978ba09871c

on October 05, 2011
at 02:03 PM

so basically, be not just a buff caveman, but a BAMF. I like the remark about your dog, by the way Grover -- so true!

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

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on October 05, 2011
at 05:31 AM

Congrats on the weight loss!!!

C2502365891cbcc8af2d1cf1d7b0e9fc

(2437)

on October 05, 2011
at 05:16 AM

Come off it, we have some idea.

61a27a8b7ec2264b1821923b271eaf54

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on October 05, 2011
at 05:10 AM

Grain and dairy = bad. Those are the truths that keep getting shot down! Although the gluten theory is really gaining steam. Thanks.

61a27a8b7ec2264b1821923b271eaf54

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on October 05, 2011
at 05:07 AM

Some truths suck...

61a27a8b7ec2264b1821923b271eaf54

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on October 05, 2011
at 05:06 AM

I think this seems to be the Paleo CW. I live by it. It's what i tell people when they ask how I lost so much weight!

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on October 05, 2011
at 01:45 AM

Both true tonthis human

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on October 04, 2011
at 10:58 PM

"I view eating Paleo as a broad and flexible meta-rule: Eat in an evolutionary appropriate manner for our species. That's it. Full Stop." Amen! Kudos for the Keynes quote.

C980d632512fe8334f5bd99e5b67f9ff

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on October 04, 2011
at 10:58 PM

I think that's crazy talk (therefore I must be).

C980d632512fe8334f5bd99e5b67f9ff

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on October 04, 2011
at 10:56 PM

Awesome answer!

C980d632512fe8334f5bd99e5b67f9ff

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on October 04, 2011
at 10:56 PM

Yes, but surely some things will never change. ie, you need to drink water.

C980d632512fe8334f5bd99e5b67f9ff

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on October 04, 2011
at 10:53 PM

I was hoping for Universal Truths such as: "MSG should not be consumed by humans", or, "Wheat is unhealthy"

Be1dbd31e4a3fccd4394494aa5db256d

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on October 04, 2011
at 10:41 PM

And even if we did we still wouldn't be able to say what was producing which effects on health.

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3f11b5fda91063846bba45daac3541bd

(1186)

on October 04, 2011
at 10:50 PM

Meat good. Sleep good. Play outside good.

C980d632512fe8334f5bd99e5b67f9ff

(128)

on October 04, 2011
at 10:56 PM

Awesome answer!

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1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

(20378)

on October 05, 2011
at 04:54 AM

Eat whole foods. Avoid Vegetable oils and sugar.

61a27a8b7ec2264b1821923b271eaf54

(3175)

on October 05, 2011
at 05:06 AM

I think this seems to be the Paleo CW. I live by it. It's what i tell people when they ask how I lost so much weight!

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

(20378)

on October 05, 2011
at 05:31 AM

Congrats on the weight loss!!!

8a3fdcbbec724506de15c14bb6271264

(435)

on October 05, 2011
at 04:51 PM

Aren't you forgetting wheat?

1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

(20378)

on October 05, 2011
at 05:23 PM

Yes wheat for sure. Anything with gluten.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 17, 2012
at 12:24 PM

Not 'vegetable' oils, but rather oils from seeds and grains. Coconut and olive/avocado oils are fine.

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Bdf98e5a57befa6f0877f978ba09871c

on October 05, 2011
at 02:10 AM

If you consider that those with celiac disease are basically a kind of genetic throwback (as are people who are lactose intolerant, perhaps), I think paleo people can agree that grains - especially gluten - and certain forms of dairy are highly problematic for long-term health.

61a27a8b7ec2264b1821923b271eaf54

(3175)

on October 05, 2011
at 05:10 AM

Grain and dairy = bad. Those are the truths that keep getting shot down! Although the gluten theory is really gaining steam. Thanks.

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93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on October 04, 2011
at 10:42 PM

Very few.

That is why I am of the mind:

Is this a BIG TENT or a small tent? This is a Big Tent. It has to be given the frailty of knowledge about modern hunter-gatherers, our Paleolithic ancestors, and recent evolutionary changes in the last 10,000 years. I view eating Paleo as a broad and flexible meta-rule: Eat in an evolutionary appropriate manner for our species. That's it. Full Stop.

So, you might be asking, what does evolutionary appropriate manner for our species mean? What it means is that I fully expect its meaning to change, or uh, "evolve", as better anthropological, genetic and medical evidence accumulates. I think the jury is still out on many of what we Paleo diet enthusiasts firmly believe in regards to intermintent fasting, saturated fats, macro-nutrient ratios, supplements, fitness etc etc And that's okay.

As John Maynard Keynes said, "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?"

> Probably, there are multiple ways of eating evolutionarily appropriately depending on who you are, your state of health, and personal history.

From PaleolithicDiet.com

http://us1.campaign-archive1.com/?u=48c5aee421576df1d6f5c8e45&id=9135210d47

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(8239)

on October 04, 2011
at 10:58 PM

"I view eating Paleo as a broad and flexible meta-rule: Eat in an evolutionary appropriate manner for our species. That's it. Full Stop." Amen! Kudos for the Keynes quote.

C980d632512fe8334f5bd99e5b67f9ff

(128)

on October 04, 2011
at 10:56 PM

Yes, but surely some things will never change. ie, you need to drink water.

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Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on October 05, 2011
at 01:45 AM

Yes.....epigenetics is controled by our environment of development and is very hard to modify after age six.

61a27a8b7ec2264b1821923b271eaf54

(3175)

on October 05, 2011
at 05:07 AM

Some truths suck...

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 05, 2011
at 06:46 PM

How hard is very hard, doc? I noticed you didn't say impossible, so it must be possible to get to optimum from whatever your current state is, right?

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E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on October 04, 2011
at 10:39 PM

Without a time machine we have no idea what exactly happened in the paleolithic era.

C980d632512fe8334f5bd99e5b67f9ff

(128)

on October 04, 2011
at 10:53 PM

I was hoping for Universal Truths such as: "MSG should not be consumed by humans", or, "Wheat is unhealthy"

Be1dbd31e4a3fccd4394494aa5db256d

(17969)

on October 04, 2011
at 10:41 PM

And even if we did we still wouldn't be able to say what was producing which effects on health.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25477)

on October 05, 2011
at 01:45 AM

Both true tonthis human

C2502365891cbcc8af2d1cf1d7b0e9fc

(2437)

on October 05, 2011
at 05:16 AM

Come off it, we have some idea.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 05, 2011
at 06:59 AM

My list of rarely questioned 'truths' is

  • Processed sugars are bad
  • White flour is bad
  • Trans fats are bad

.

  • Omega-3 is good
  • Meat is good
  • Fermented milk is good
  • Vitamin C is good

96061d386f8929f50a4d71e0420e3d5d

(208)

on October 05, 2011
at 02:55 PM

Can't argue with those!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 05, 2011
at 03:56 PM

Actually, those all those except meat are accepted as true cross diet/nation/medicine/whatever....

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on October 17, 2012
at 12:28 PM

Some people say that generally all PUFAs are bad because they are chemically instable, but as an exception we need trace amounts of omega-3 in the diet.

1
20eefe24d8ccf096096f05b5bce1ea40

(988)

on October 05, 2011
at 06:02 AM

Hit men that piss you off, sleep with women who'll let you, eat as much as you can and do as little as possible. I think there was a lot of that going on back in the day, there's no way I can do that sort of thing today without going to jail, where I hear they feed you a very high carb diet, so that's out. One of the few things that I can get away with is a paleo attitude, 'try as hard as you can untill you win or die, then stop trying and go to sleep.' I noticed that this is the way my dog goes about life, and he seems wonderfully happy and really fit, so I gave it a whirl, and it works out great. Eat organs and meat and try as hard as you possibly can, be a scary caveman or cavelady and see what happens.

Bdf98e5a57befa6f0877f978ba09871c

on October 05, 2011
at 02:03 PM

so basically, be not just a buff caveman, but a BAMF. I like the remark about your dog, by the way Grover -- so true!

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C2502365891cbcc8af2d1cf1d7b0e9fc

(2437)

on October 05, 2011
at 05:18 AM

At a minimum, avoid the three neolithic agents of disease (http://archevore.com).

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Be1dbd31e4a3fccd4394494aa5db256d

(17969)

on October 04, 2011
at 10:37 PM

Cogito ergo sum.

And that if you get all of your calories from crisco you're going to die soon.

C980d632512fe8334f5bd99e5b67f9ff

(128)

on October 04, 2011
at 10:58 PM

I think that's crazy talk (therefore I must be).

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D117467bf8e8472464ece2b81509606c

(2873)

on October 05, 2011
at 06:03 AM

Sugar=Public enemy #1

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