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Trying Paleo... is it normal to feel this hungry?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created December 23, 2011 at 11:19 AM

Hi. I've been reading about Paleo for some days now. I've read articles, Cordain's book, and right now I'm in the middle of the one Wolf wrote. It is my understanding that I should not feel hungry with Paleo. Thing is I kind of wanted to do a trial, so yesterday I kind of began with it. I'm eating a lot, much more than I did before, because I feel hungry all the time. Literally, all the time. Just half an hour after having a meal, even, I feel hungry again. I think it's because of the fruits, but I don't really know. All my life, whenever I didn't have a full stomach and ate some fruits I felt hungrier, with gases. I always assumed it is normal... but is it? I'm thinking I might have allergies?

This thing with fruits is really weird. I feel the kind of regurgitation in my stomach I feel when it's empty and I'm hungry, or at least, emptier than I would actually feel it otherwise. Fact is I've right now eaten almost 1300 calories just as a breakfast, I know my stomach is full of food, and feel it "expanded", but even now, I have this feeling (most likely gasses?). I don't know if it is circunstancial or not, but I'm starting to doubt it. Is there anything I can do to try and solve this issue?

I've uploaded my Cronometer values, so you can check and judge for yourself. Yesterday, when I did the print screen, I had gotten to 2435 calories and I had to have dinner yet. I finally got to more than 3300 cal.

Cronometer Settings: http://imageshack.us.../settingsk.png/

Cronometer Yesterday (21 Dec) values: http://imageshack.us/f/714/211m.png/ http://imageshack.us/f/651/212ck.png/ http://imageshack.us/f/809/213w.png/

Cronometer Today (22 Dec) incomplete values: http://imageshack.us/f/4/221t.png/ http://imageshack.us/f/407/222pt.png/ http://imageshack.us/f/9/223u.png/

Thanks for your help!

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on September 09, 2013
at 06:38 PM

Well... According to most resources Paleo is no dairy... So this would be great if he was doing like, Primal or something??

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on December 24, 2011
at 07:55 PM

And there were ten answers before you. WOW< there too! :)

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on December 24, 2011
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My exact question , midway through the third line, so ,2 and a half lines. , fifty words.The rest of the question can go unread.! I was way more interested in what your answer was. Yes, the" Framingham Study" of Fruit Induded Gas.

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on December 23, 2011
at 12:02 PM

I can't speak from the science of it, but from personal experience the reason I choose a lower carb paleo diet the majority of the time and only eat carbs when I need them in the specifics of post-workout, is that I find the higher my carbs the less sated I feel after meals. The higher the fat the more sated I feel. (I believe this is something to do with "leptin"?)

When I get home I normally snack on an avocado which does wonders until dinner a few hours later. If I was to grab a handful of blueberries or worse eat a slice of Panettone someone brought into the office, I would really get hungry.

Not sure how helpful this is, but the way I have come to understand my body over the last three months of paleo is that I perform better with lower sugar, and so limit my fruit intake to be part of a meal, not as a snack on its own. I actually eat steak with a side of broccoli, avocado and blueberries on the same plate. I prefer it then eating blueberries for dessert on their own.

From what I understand Paleo certainly does not mean low-carb, but some of us seem to work much better with reduced sugars overall and use them specifically when needed.

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on December 23, 2011
at 03:24 PM

You may want to try a lower carb paleo approach initially so that you can get your hunger under control. People can argue about the mechanisms (glucose regulation/insulin response/leptin sensitivity or whatever is the mechanism du jour) but for most people who have the problem with hunger, low carb works like a charm to combat hunger.

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on December 23, 2011
at 11:49 AM

It is quite normal to be very hungry during your transition (or "detox") period. When I started I was hungry all the time. You are going through Carb withdrawal. I say that it is okay to snack more during your first few days... up to two weeks... Go ahead and snack on nuts. Make some tasty bacon in the morning that you can keep relying on throughout the day. Try eating less fruit, or if you're having fruit, have fruit that isn't super acidic... Go with bananas instead of oranges.

I wouldn't have gotten through my first few days without salami. High Protein. High Fat. All Delicious.

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on December 23, 2011
at 02:50 PM

For starting out on Paleo I think you will do better dropping the fruit and concentrating on protein type foods- keep hard-boiled eggs in the fridge for a 'go to' snack, or leftover meat from dinner, or even a chunk of cheese. The protein fills you up better than anything else.

A good lunch is Mark Sisson's Big Ass Salad with tons of greens and some protein.

Coconut oil is a good addition to coffee if you like the taste and it fills you up too. Use butter or bacon fat to cook eggs in the morning

Good luck- you will feel better soon.

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on September 09, 2013
at 06:38 PM

Well... According to most resources Paleo is no dairy... So this would be great if he was doing like, Primal or something??

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on December 23, 2011
at 12:23 PM

Yes, experienced this. Carbohydrate withdrawal. I began to eat more fat. Coconut oil is a good one. Now I get filled up easily.

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on December 24, 2011
at 05:33 PM

Do I understand you to be saying that your hunger concerns are based on a one-day food experiment?

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on December 24, 2011
at 07:55 PM

And there were ten answers before you. WOW< there too! :)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on December 24, 2011
at 07:52 PM

My exact question , midway through the third line, so ,2 and a half lines. , fifty words.The rest of the question can go unread.! I was way more interested in what your answer was. Yes, the" Framingham Study" of Fruit Induded Gas.

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on December 23, 2011
at 03:53 PM

Just to be different, I'll say a piece (1/2 cup) of fruit per day is fine but you don't want to eat much more than that. If you do eat any, make it part of a meal and not a stand-alone food. As miked said, if you think fruit isn't working for you right now stop eating it until you get hungry for it again and then just eat a little with a meal.

During the transition to burning different fuel, most of which will occur in the first week or two with your body getting better and better at it for about a month, your best friend is to eat some fatty meat in the morning.

I chose bacon and chuck steak, but trentasaurus's salami will work fine. You want to give your body signals that it should burn the fat you're eating now and forget about the grains and other high-carb foods you were eating before. You see, even if you eat vegetables and fruits with every meal you'll be eating many less carbs than you did when bread, pasta and other grain-laden foods were in your menus. Your body's basically saying "What are you doing?"

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on December 23, 2011
at 03:51 PM

Two things: if you've been reading all about Paleo then you know it takes time to adjust, so don't worry about it after a day. Give it a week or two.

Second, if you think it's the fruit that make you hungry (and it probably is), cut them out and see how you react.

Paleo is almost "magic" but it's not instant.

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on December 23, 2011
at 02:17 PM

Good answer with the coconut oil but it can cause A Lot of trips to the bathroom. Start small like 1 tap a day and work your way up from there

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on September 09, 2013
at 06:47 PM

Hi there! i am new to Paleo too and have been doing a ton of research but I totally never read that you'd be so hungry when you started out! I have that same issue of seeming to be hungry all the time. When my husband is sitting there, nope, not hungry... :/

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on September 09, 2013
at 05:56 PM

Hi its my first day, hungry already ....I thought salami n cheese weren't allowed as processed ?? Help plse x

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on June 04, 2012
at 12:09 PM

i am kind of a paleo outlier, but i HAVE to have more carbs than most or physically i get all messed up (and i am not a lean mean athlete). i can do low carb for a while or no fruit with lots of fats but then i get weird uncomfortable symptoms beyond "low carb flu". i know carbs arent the same thing as fruit, but i find i do well mentally and physically with fruit, and i am not a marathon runner.

my point? paleo is very individualized. i would take a month or two and really figure out YOUR body on ALL paleo foods, and see what works for you. most people on here are cool with dairy like butter and heavy cream but it doesn't work for me, and a lot shun most fruit other than berries but i eat multiple servings daily when i am feeling my best. just relaxxxxxxxxxxx. it was your first day! a LOT of us ate like truckers at first. embrace YOUR body.

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on December 24, 2011
at 05:45 PM

My own transition to paleo took place when I had much more serious health problems, perhaps masking the symptoms, so maybe that's why I don't remember hunger too much. But I'm under the impression that you should just avoid all high glycemic foods, especially in the morning, and eat lotsa fats. It's the Taubesian gateway to paleo. It worked great for me (again, assuming my symptoms weren't masked.) I recommend it. No more fruit. No starches. No cereal grains.

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on December 23, 2011
at 11:35 PM

You need fat. Seems like your still on SAD minus the refined carbohydrates. If I ate what you ate I would pass out and I am a sixteen year old girl 5'2. Today I ata fried eggs cooked in bacon, chicken stirfry Lunch- a huge pork chop with extra fat, stir-fried veggies (Coconut oil or cooking in wild boar lard) Dinner-3 hamburgers (beef) and butternut squash soup. If I'm hungry I'll also have coconut butter. If you are trying to lose weight you can cut the carbs, especially fruit. Still with non-starchy vegetables. Remember the body will take a while to learn to run on fat, instead of poorly running on refined carbohydrates. Humans were meant to be fativores.

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