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Too much fruit? Gaining after a week on Paleo.

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created May 10, 2012 at 11:29 AM

I'm new to Paleo but not new to low-carb. I haven't been perfect during my first week on it, and have been eating a lot of fruit which is new to me because on Atkins, the only fruit you could really eat were berries and apples. I'm up 3 lbs. Not much I know but it scares me, I thought I'd be down at least in water weight. Is this normal? Should I scale back on fruit? Here's my day yesterday:

Breakfast: Leftover Chicken, Spinach and Mushrooms from last nights dinner

Lunch: Mixed Green Salad with grilled chicken from Chikfila (had a tiny bit of cheese on it) low-fat italian dressing

Snacks: 1 orange, 1 cup blackberries, handful blueberries, a few almonds & walnuts, coffee with a little cream

Dinner: Meatloaf (Paleo) and tossed salad with dressing of lemon juice, olive oil and spices, 1 glass red wine

I know this is not perfectly Paleo but it is really low-carb and almost Paleo. Thoughts? Too much fat, too many fruits, too many calories? What am I doing wrong?

D613cc4b9409009d5735a23e9fec5886

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on May 10, 2012
at 11:41 PM

Good point. Trying desperately to get rid of all dairy - the wine is not so easy... ;)

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on May 10, 2012
at 06:18 PM

I know I hate counting too, but it keeps me on track if I need it. Soon you'll be able to judge things based on what you've learned from tracking

D613cc4b9409009d5735a23e9fec5886

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on May 10, 2012
at 04:58 PM

Interesting - and makes sense. Today's diet so far has been: Breakfast - leftover meatloaf with 1 tbs. sugar-free ketchup (I'm addicted) Lunch - Salmon with green salad - dressing is olive oil and lemon Coffee - with a little cream & sweet n low Dinner will be some kind of meat and veggies Backing off the fruit today to see if it helps!

D613cc4b9409009d5735a23e9fec5886

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on May 10, 2012
at 04:56 PM

I love Fitday - do use that. I figure I need to do about 1200-1400 calories to lose weight. I just hate counting - carbs, calories, points. So over it. But I guess it must be done.

D613cc4b9409009d5735a23e9fec5886

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on May 10, 2012
at 04:55 PM

The "Paleo" book I'm reading emphasizes not too much fat so I was trying to be conservative with my fats since I'm used to Atkins which allows you to go a little too crazy in my opinion. I'm 5'7" weigh 159 as of today (YIKES), would like to lose 15 lbs. A lot of people might say I'm within my BMI (at the high end) but I know I'm too heavy for my bone structure. I'm trying to get back to about a size 6/8, where I'm more comfortable, which is about 15 lbs. away. I work out 3x a week with weights, and a little cardio. The low-fat dressing is not a norm, it was because I was "out" to eat.

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on May 10, 2012
at 03:28 PM

It's more accurate to take measurements of different parts of the body in inches and keep a log such as waist, hip, chest, thighs ... and log in once a week.

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at 03:25 PM

3 pounds can be water weight. Also in the last half (last 14 days) of women's monthly cycle you can hold onto water. 3 pounds may not be significant. You should also weigh after elimination (#1 & #2). That can be 3 pounds right there!

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on May 10, 2012
at 12:47 PM

How many almonds and walnuts is "a few"? Why are you using low-fat dressing? What are your serving sizes? How tall are you, and how much did you weigh before? How active are you?

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on May 10, 2012
at 11:40 AM

Other than the olive oil in your salad and cream in your coffee, where's the fat? You probably need a lot more fat.

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on May 10, 2012
at 11:40 AM

It's been a week. You're fine. If you are actually eating more carbs now than before then you won't be losing lots of water weight. Your food yesterday looks healthy and tasty. Personally I'd say it looks like you're avoiding fat, and eating more (and more often) than you actually need to. You may want to avoid several servings of fruit every day just while you adjust as it can be something people use which gets out of control. We also know nothing about your activity levels, and your current weight etc.

Seriously though, for the first month just concentrate on putting together paleo meals and enjoying the foods which that involves. After that you can start checking in with your hunger and maybe start experimenting with changing things up, avoid snacking, using eating windows or outright fasting (all of which tend to come quite naturally on a higher-fat paleo diet).

Get some other measurements as well, don't rely on weight, track waist size at least. More importantly, track how you feel.

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on May 10, 2012
at 02:41 PM

Paleo isnt the magic way to loose weight. You can easily over eat on Paleo. My first year i ate too many nuts and fruit and didnt loose a pound. To be honest the first year of paleo didnt really make much difference for anything. My moment came when i cut the fruit and all starch. Cut my carbs down to 40-60 grams a day, lost about 20 pounds. In my opinion its all about how sensitive you are to carbohydrates.

Dont eat to much fruit and Sweet Potatoes you can get your carbs up to the normal american diet if you like eating those and see no change.

Think about it for a minute. Its only been in the very recent history that Fruit has been available year round. Fruit is only natural in the fall during the fattening up season. The only other natural sugar would be Honey which is very rare (for non tropical areas). So the paleo life style wasnt go to the groccery store get imported fruit and tubers to hearts content. NO, it was meat, eggs and nuts. Lots of saturated fats.

D613cc4b9409009d5735a23e9fec5886

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on May 10, 2012
at 04:58 PM

Interesting - and makes sense. Today's diet so far has been: Breakfast - leftover meatloaf with 1 tbs. sugar-free ketchup (I'm addicted) Lunch - Salmon with green salad - dressing is olive oil and lemon Coffee - with a little cream & sweet n low Dinner will be some kind of meat and veggies Backing off the fruit today to see if it helps!

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on May 10, 2012
at 07:17 PM

if you eat dairy and wine and dont stick with meat veggies some fruit no sugar and eat nuts it is no longer paleo! So its not the fruit its the dairy and wine

D613cc4b9409009d5735a23e9fec5886

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on May 10, 2012
at 11:41 PM

Good point. Trying desperately to get rid of all dairy - the wine is not so easy... ;)

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on May 10, 2012
at 01:24 PM

I dont see that much fruit consumption in your diet.

You also need to give this more time. I gained a bit of weight, but most of it was muscle, my body composition was definitely improving when I changed my workout routine, more lifting, less cardio, and switching from vegetarian to paleo.

That being said, if after a few weeks you are are gaining fat, then you will need to cut back somewhere. Here you have a few options.

1) Count calories, measure you food, log your intake into something like fitday. See where how much you are consuming, then cut back on the calories a bit, and tinker from there. It's really up to you if you want to cut back on carbs or fat. If you are active, I might cut back on the fat. If you are feeling great doing low carb, then yeah you might want to limit some of the starchy veggies/potato, and maybe cut out the orange. You have to cut something. Just make it realistic and something you can keep doing for awhile.

2) Play around with adding carb (similar to what Rick over at Free the Animal did), or removing carbs. For some adding a bit more carbs overall, keeps them feeling full, and thus the eat a bit less. Of course you could go in the opposite direction, and add some fat (replace the dress with olive oil instead of that low fat stuff). The key here is you are trying to lower your caloric intake w/o having to count calories. This is definitely much better, but for many, including myself, really hard to do.

3) If you're stress and sleep are good, and you keep eating clean, you could try something like Intermittent Fasting. I prefer daily feeds that last 8 hours.

4) Up your exercise a bit. Add some sprints, or some HIIT.

Hopefully that helps.

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on May 10, 2012
at 11:54 AM

I don't think you should weigh yourself for a while...In fact, hide your scale for a little bit!

Having said that, here are a few tips. I'm no expert when it comes to paleo or primal eating but I've lost about 25 pounds now :D Look at your "low fat" dressing. What kind is it, a conventional brand? Look at the ingredients...It may be low fat but high sugar! Check out this homemade dressing, link text it's very good!

As far as fruit goes, I was never into fruit though I do eat some berries but that's about it. I'd say up your veggie intake! I loooove vegetables.

Watch your nut intake too. If I snack on nuts of any kind for more than one day a week I notice my losses kind of stall. I'd say avoid them as well while trying to lose weight.

Paleo really isn't about counting your carbs. It's about eating nutrient dense foods! If you like fruit, try and eat your carby foods/fruits in the morning, and eat only protein and vegetables for dinner.

I can't help out with any tips for exercising...I haven't started that portion of the "diet" yet haha.

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on May 10, 2012
at 11:46 AM

if you are concerned about weight management and not sure if you are consuming too much you should probably do the following:

figure out what you need to consume, calorie wise, per day to lose about 1/2lb a week.

track your food until you understand better about calories, and %s

work out what food %'s will work for you, ie: fat 65%, protein 25%, less than 50 grams carbs per day.

Figure out what kinds of carbs will help you lose weight: limit fruits to berries and consume 1 serving max a day, nuts=no more than a few ounces a day. veggies-anything is good, starchy is less good if trying to lose weight, but you can add them ocassionally.

just some tips that might help you if you are really unsure. I thought I understood calories etc. but when I wasnt losing weight I started using www.fitday.com and started tracking, rude awakening for me!!!

D613cc4b9409009d5735a23e9fec5886

(143)

on May 10, 2012
at 04:56 PM

I love Fitday - do use that. I figure I need to do about 1200-1400 calories to lose weight. I just hate counting - carbs, calories, points. So over it. But I guess it must be done.

345c1755efe005edd162b770dc6fb821

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on May 10, 2012
at 06:18 PM

I know I hate counting too, but it keeps me on track if I need it. Soon you'll be able to judge things based on what you've learned from tracking

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