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segmented sleep question to paleohackers

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created October 22, 2012 at 1:21 PM

some studies showed that segmented sleep is more naturel that the standard way of sleeping(say 8 hours) and it seems very logical. i know that some cavepeeps like to have a lifestyle that immitates the paleolithique lifestyle and some of yall might be able to help me. some of my questions are..

is there alot of segmented sleepers on here?

what are tips to get started?

what are the benifits?

why did we changed from bimodal to monomodal sleep, is it the technologiy?(light, computers, ipod and such)

what do you do when you you wake up form your 'first' sleep?pray? read?

should i base my sleeping partern according to the sun's position?(get to sleep when the sun goes down, and wake up when the sun goes up) * also sorry about the bad english, im french haha, im still learning

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on October 27, 2012
at 04:27 AM

Me too. Long time in the tent with nothing to do.

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on October 25, 2012
at 12:07 PM

fair enoug but i still think it shows two separate sleep cycles - first one ends at 4, second at 8.

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(2934)

on October 25, 2012
at 09:59 AM

that's not really segmented lol...? ;)

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on October 25, 2012
at 07:44 AM

Ditto with the backpacking. When I go backpacking I'm typically asleep by sundown and don't rise until sun up - usually a difference of around ten hours. It's great to wake up for an hour or so in the middle of the night and do some light meditation, listening to the music of nature until drowsy again

2e1591c76896828077b930de5107f1af

on October 23, 2012
at 09:48 PM

thks drangonfly!

2e1591c76896828077b930de5107f1af

on October 22, 2012
at 02:05 PM

thks john, i always try to keep the light down late at night.

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on October 22, 2012
at 02:03 PM

Technology and lights, especially at the blue end of the spectrum plays havoc with your melatonin and cortisol hormonal systems. Evolution is not expecting you to watching TV at 11 PM or checking your messages on a bright screen at 3 AM. When you remove these stimuli it will allow better hormonal "yoking" to your circadian timekeeper in your brain. Some people will still sleep thru the night, other wake up. This has to do with how yow enter the various stages of sleep. Both are physiologic. Personally, I try to roll over and go back to sleep. Sometimes I get up. I don't recommend turning the lights on.

2e1591c76896828077b930de5107f1af

on October 22, 2012
at 02:05 PM

thks john, i always try to keep the light down late at night.

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on October 22, 2012
at 10:41 PM

I think the change in seasons affects my sleeping patterns. What with the sun rising earlier in summer, I'm waking between 4-5am and then lightly dozing until 6am before I'm up for the day. During winter I find I sleep right through until 7am (which for me is a sleep in!) Since going Paleo though, I think I'm a more adjusted morning person - feel like a bit of a nanna being in bed by 10pm!

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on October 22, 2012
at 09:36 PM

So far, it seems like once people start eating paleo, get their blackout curtains, and stop looking at screens at night, they just go and sleep for eight to nine hours a night all in one block.
I haven't heard of anyone staying on a segmented sleep schedule for very long, unless you count the siesta.

I have considered the possibility that some humans may have adapted to a bi-phasic pattern of sleep- in more dangerous environments where you'd need to keep guard against predators for instance. This would account for the discord in the research- some of it seems to point to eight hours being the best, but then there are these studies that seem to support bi-phasic sleep.

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on October 22, 2012
at 09:00 PM

My husband & I "do" segmented sleep most nights. First sleep 9:30-2 or 3 and second sleep from 4-7 or 8. I work for myself, so have a very flexible schedule.

Here's a great article for you: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/biphasic-sleep/

2e1591c76896828077b930de5107f1af

on October 23, 2012
at 09:48 PM

thks drangonfly!

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on October 25, 2012
at 06:16 AM

I sleep 6hrs, wake up with the sun. When I'm backpacking, sometimes I can pull off the sleep-wake-sleep thing.

Dc594d9b86218d0a54baf964fd39496c

(594)

on October 25, 2012
at 07:44 AM

Ditto with the backpacking. When I go backpacking I'm typically asleep by sundown and don't rise until sun up - usually a difference of around ten hours. It's great to wake up for an hour or so in the middle of the night and do some light meditation, listening to the music of nature until drowsy again

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(2417)

on October 27, 2012
at 04:27 AM

Me too. Long time in the tent with nothing to do.

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on October 25, 2012
at 02:14 AM

Here's a really interesting blog post from a guy who took an entire month off of artificial light. He actually did it in both the summer and the winter. Turns out he ended up in bimodal sleep in the winter but not the summer. Anyway, it's well worth a read: http://jdmoyer.com/2010/03/04/sleep-experiment-a-month-with-no-artificial-light/

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F92e4ca55291c3f3096a3d4d3d854986

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on October 22, 2012
at 02:06 PM

I don't "try" to segment my sleep, it just happens. I've had the same sleeping pattern forever: go to sleep between 10 and 11, wake up around 4-5 am to pee, fall asleep around 5 minutes later, then sleep again til 8.

Eed7dabde3d61910685845e04605267f

(2934)

on October 25, 2012
at 09:59 AM

that's not really segmented lol...? ;)

F92e4ca55291c3f3096a3d4d3d854986

(11698)

on October 25, 2012
at 12:07 PM

fair enoug but i still think it shows two separate sleep cycles - first one ends at 4, second at 8.

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