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Seaweed is about as foreign to humans as grains

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 26, 2013 at 7:16 PM

So my thought is this some people can digest seaweed better than others, for me it gives me a huge stomache ache. But the same applies for most grains, my question is, why is seaweed considered paleo when it seems to not be a normal part of most ancestral diets?

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

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on April 27, 2013
at 03:19 AM

After all, between seaweed and dwarf wheat, only one of them existed 10,000bc.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on April 27, 2013
at 03:17 AM

And yet somehow it's still true that most sea products are some of the most nutrient dense unadulterated truly paleo products on the market.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on April 27, 2013
at 02:59 AM

Lol Celton, feel free to ignore my advice and develop an iodine deficiency.

77188106a9c27a22ad47d0ef7318de7a

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on April 26, 2013
at 10:14 PM

Eugenia, have you ever had einkorn? It's quite delicious, I've had it in pasta, cookies, and the whole berries as an oatmeal breakfast. It's awesome and doesn't upset my gut like modern wheat. However, being wheat it is basically the most un-paleo food out there. My only concerns are the possible lectins and anti-thyroid action of it. I still enjoy einkorn once a moth or so.

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on April 26, 2013
at 10:07 PM

Some populations are apparently better adapted than others: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2011/03/21/openlab-2010-gut-bacteria-in-japanese-people-borrowed-sushi-digesting-genes-from-ocean-bacteria/

89fa2da4805b0b4e54b77a5a20a2e206

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on April 26, 2013
at 09:51 PM

youll appreciate the texture and taste much better if go to a nice japanese sushi place and try some handrolled sushi http://jimmychin.99.com.my/images/tenichi53.jpg

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on April 26, 2013
at 09:26 PM

Roth we have a neat lil enzyme called amylase, google it man.

A2c38be4c54c91a15071f82f14cac0b3

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on April 26, 2013
at 09:25 PM

Roth we have a neat lil' enzyme amylase, google it man.

361e96d70d6d3b91d63f6ad975e60ab6

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on April 26, 2013
at 08:41 PM

I'm sorry, but this is terrible logic.

3327924660b1e2f8f8fc4ca27fedf2b2

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on April 26, 2013
at 08:22 PM

Seaweed is to sea "vegetables" as potatoes are to land "vegetables." Both are complex carbohydrates and are quite hard to digest.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

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on April 26, 2013
at 08:17 PM

"I was pondering this over an upset stomach and a bowl of seaweed" Nice job of sounding passive-aggressive. And then you're calling me condensing. I didn't mean to get on your bad side, only to explain that just because you don't have the enzymes to break down seaweed, doesn't mean its a bad food to have occasionally for the rest of us.

39311794c054f89a226f33e1afd08721

on April 26, 2013
at 08:14 PM

I just saw down further where you said you had a bowl of seaweed. I don't think you're supposed to eat it in those quantities. It has extremely high levels of iodine. I don't know if that's the source of your GI trouble, but it's not good in giant quantities anyway. The Japanese diet includes frequent seaweed, but in tiny quantities.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

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on April 26, 2013
at 08:12 PM

Anyways, the point is, I can eat seaweed without problem, while my ancestors didn't eat it (Balkan ancestry, did genetic test). If seaweed gives you an upset stomach, don't eat it. Same goes for those who can't tolerate eggs. The rest of us can eat them.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on April 26, 2013
at 08:10 PM

I cannot have it for now but I will soon :) Watch Dr. Wahls video on this one.

39311794c054f89a226f33e1afd08721

on April 26, 2013
at 08:09 PM

How much are you eating at a time?

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

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on April 26, 2013
at 08:08 PM

This is the way I speak. I didn't try on purpose to sound condensing, neither I did. I simply explained that if you have a problem with a food doesn't mean that this food is bad. In fact, the way you phrased your post and comments sounded very angry.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

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on April 26, 2013
at 08:05 PM

Also,the main problem with grains is that it's a staple. There's an upper limit on how much of it humans can tolerate in their lifetime. When we eat spaghetti with bread, and pizza with cheese sticks, and even soy sauce has wheat, you can understand that there's a problem there. All staples are bad, because of their sheer volume of consumption. Seaweed is not a staple. Add the super-gluten and corn GMO of the last 50 years, and kaboom. New humans eating only a slice of sprouted bread a day from grains won't be a problem. But for most of us here, it's too late, we've reached our limit.

8ce8b8fd33944e67dfd6277e7b671815

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on April 26, 2013
at 08:03 PM

really are you 100% sure there is nothing wrong with seaweed, you think the fact that it is about as digestible as grass makes it good for you. Nice job on sounding condescending, but besides that i don't agree with you. Things that are hard to digest tend to cause inflammation, for example nuts, seeds, grains. Don't think that just because a health food magazine told you something, or that because it follows your ideology you shouldn't question it. I should be able to come on this forum and question the validity of eating seaweed in a civil way.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

(11697)

on April 26, 2013
at 07:55 PM

Just because YOU can't eat seaweed doesn't mean that others can't either. The problem with grains is that they have negative effects for the health of the vast majority of people. And digestion is for only for 10% of these cases, the rest is unsuspecting inflammation which leads to many different problems later in life. That's the real problem with grains, not necessarily indigestion. Seaweed doesn't do that. You just happen to be among those who can't digest it. There are others who can't digest eggs, tomatoes, fish. That doesn't mean that these aren't real human food. /Modern/ grains aren't

8ce8b8fd33944e67dfd6277e7b671815

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on April 26, 2013
at 07:50 PM

my point is there may be some unforeseen health consequences and may not be the best choice for all people, that is all.

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on April 26, 2013
at 07:47 PM

Do all types of seaweed give you an upset stomach? There are so many types...some processed, some not...I would say raw organic unprocessed seaweed is a heck of a lot more delicious and nutritious than munching on some random grains a paleo person may have come across.

8ce8b8fd33944e67dfd6277e7b671815

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on April 26, 2013
at 07:45 PM

sea weed also changes your gut flora and has some particularly hard to digest carbohydrates. Don't know how healthy that can be on your stomach, it would be the equivalent to eating grass. Yes i'm sure people have been eating grass for thousands of years.

8ce8b8fd33944e67dfd6277e7b671815

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on April 26, 2013
at 07:40 PM

I was pondering this over an upset stomach and a bowl of seaweed

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

(11697)

on April 26, 2013
at 07:34 PM

Maybe. But as you said, wild grains. Today, glutenous grains and corn are extremely selected, especially in the last 50 years. There are even some celiacs who can eat without problem einkorn and spelt, which are ancient varieties of wheat. This is very telling about the state of modern grains. Seaweed on the other hand, haven't changed.

8ce8b8fd33944e67dfd6277e7b671815

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on April 26, 2013
at 07:30 PM

what makes you think that seaweed doesn't have it's own bio defenses like grains. Some of which we may not have adapted to just yet.

8ce8b8fd33944e67dfd6277e7b671815

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on April 26, 2013
at 07:29 PM

you don't think that people weren't snacking on wild grains at around the same time?

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on April 26, 2013
at 07:24 PM

Dr. Terry Wahls would disagree with you. She believed "primitive" cultures traveled for hundreds of miles just to get some seaweed.

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89985542ffc00c296552951369fe809a

on April 26, 2013
at 08:39 PM

Actually seaweed has been a part of our diets for a LONG LONG time - but... Everyone is different and some people just cannot process it. I myself eat seaweed daily and I am JUST FINE... But when I eat cabbage or cauliflower I BLOW UP - Does that mean that cabbage & cauliflower aren't paleo? Not at all... Does this mean that I just cannot digest them, YUP!

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Ff8e01485df65a4bce8c5ffeca5ee3a6

on April 26, 2013
at 07:22 PM

Humans have been eating seaweed for 160,000 years....The agriculture movement happened yesterday in comparison...

Knowledge

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/a-visual-guide-to-sea-vegetables/#axzz2RbC47UIu

8ce8b8fd33944e67dfd6277e7b671815

(327)

on April 26, 2013
at 07:29 PM

you don't think that people weren't snacking on wild grains at around the same time?

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

(11697)

on April 26, 2013
at 07:34 PM

Maybe. But as you said, wild grains. Today, glutenous grains and corn are extremely selected, especially in the last 50 years. There are even some celiacs who can eat without problem einkorn and spelt, which are ancient varieties of wheat. This is very telling about the state of modern grains. Seaweed on the other hand, haven't changed.

8ce8b8fd33944e67dfd6277e7b671815

(327)

on April 26, 2013
at 07:40 PM

I was pondering this over an upset stomach and a bowl of seaweed

A2c38be4c54c91a15071f82f14cac0b3

(12682)

on April 26, 2013
at 09:26 PM

Roth we have a neat lil enzyme called amylase, google it man.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

(11697)

on April 26, 2013
at 08:17 PM

"I was pondering this over an upset stomach and a bowl of seaweed" Nice job of sounding passive-aggressive. And then you're calling me condensing. I didn't mean to get on your bad side, only to explain that just because you don't have the enzymes to break down seaweed, doesn't mean its a bad food to have occasionally for the rest of us.

77188106a9c27a22ad47d0ef7318de7a

(922)

on April 26, 2013
at 10:14 PM

Eugenia, have you ever had einkorn? It's quite delicious, I've had it in pasta, cookies, and the whole berries as an oatmeal breakfast. It's awesome and doesn't upset my gut like modern wheat. However, being wheat it is basically the most un-paleo food out there. My only concerns are the possible lectins and anti-thyroid action of it. I still enjoy einkorn once a moth or so.

8ce8b8fd33944e67dfd6277e7b671815

(327)

on April 26, 2013
at 07:50 PM

my point is there may be some unforeseen health consequences and may not be the best choice for all people, that is all.

8ce8b8fd33944e67dfd6277e7b671815

(327)

on April 26, 2013
at 08:03 PM

really are you 100% sure there is nothing wrong with seaweed, you think the fact that it is about as digestible as grass makes it good for you. Nice job on sounding condescending, but besides that i don't agree with you. Things that are hard to digest tend to cause inflammation, for example nuts, seeds, grains. Don't think that just because a health food magazine told you something, or that because it follows your ideology you shouldn't question it. I should be able to come on this forum and question the validity of eating seaweed in a civil way.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

(11697)

on April 26, 2013
at 07:55 PM

Just because YOU can't eat seaweed doesn't mean that others can't either. The problem with grains is that they have negative effects for the health of the vast majority of people. And digestion is for only for 10% of these cases, the rest is unsuspecting inflammation which leads to many different problems later in life. That's the real problem with grains, not necessarily indigestion. Seaweed doesn't do that. You just happen to be among those who can't digest it. There are others who can't digest eggs, tomatoes, fish. That doesn't mean that these aren't real human food. /Modern/ grains aren't

Ff8e01485df65a4bce8c5ffeca5ee3a6

(20)

on April 26, 2013
at 07:47 PM

Do all types of seaweed give you an upset stomach? There are so many types...some processed, some not...I would say raw organic unprocessed seaweed is a heck of a lot more delicious and nutritious than munching on some random grains a paleo person may have come across.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

(11697)

on April 26, 2013
at 08:12 PM

Anyways, the point is, I can eat seaweed without problem, while my ancestors didn't eat it (Balkan ancestry, did genetic test). If seaweed gives you an upset stomach, don't eat it. Same goes for those who can't tolerate eggs. The rest of us can eat them.

3327924660b1e2f8f8fc4ca27fedf2b2

(2919)

on April 26, 2013
at 08:22 PM

Seaweed is to sea "vegetables" as potatoes are to land "vegetables." Both are complex carbohydrates and are quite hard to digest.

8ce8b8fd33944e67dfd6277e7b671815

(327)

on April 26, 2013
at 07:30 PM

what makes you think that seaweed doesn't have it's own bio defenses like grains. Some of which we may not have adapted to just yet.

8ce8b8fd33944e67dfd6277e7b671815

(327)

on April 26, 2013
at 07:45 PM

sea weed also changes your gut flora and has some particularly hard to digest carbohydrates. Don't know how healthy that can be on your stomach, it would be the equivalent to eating grass. Yes i'm sure people have been eating grass for thousands of years.

A2c38be4c54c91a15071f82f14cac0b3

(12682)

on April 26, 2013
at 09:25 PM

Roth we have a neat lil' enzyme amylase, google it man.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

(11697)

on April 26, 2013
at 08:05 PM

Also,the main problem with grains is that it's a staple. There's an upper limit on how much of it humans can tolerate in their lifetime. When we eat spaghetti with bread, and pizza with cheese sticks, and even soy sauce has wheat, you can understand that there's a problem there. All staples are bad, because of their sheer volume of consumption. Seaweed is not a staple. Add the super-gluten and corn GMO of the last 50 years, and kaboom. New humans eating only a slice of sprouted bread a day from grains won't be a problem. But for most of us here, it's too late, we've reached our limit.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

(11697)

on April 26, 2013
at 08:08 PM

This is the way I speak. I didn't try on purpose to sound condensing, neither I did. I simply explained that if you have a problem with a food doesn't mean that this food is bad. In fact, the way you phrased your post and comments sounded very angry.

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8ce8b8fd33944e67dfd6277e7b671815

(327)

on April 26, 2013
at 08:46 PM

I really appreciate you guys giving so much feedback, clearly my knowledge is lacking in some areas. Good to know i should just supplement seaweed instead of ingesting seaweed breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Honestly appreciate the tough love, if you guys have anything else i should know about seaweed in general maybe you can put it in the comments section below this :)

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Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

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on April 26, 2013
at 07:33 PM

We evolved from organisms out of the sea. Ancestral/paleo eating doesn't get more paleo than seafood (I'm including seaweed in this seafood definition).

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

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on April 27, 2013
at 03:19 AM

After all, between seaweed and dwarf wheat, only one of them existed 10,000bc.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

(10989)

on April 27, 2013
at 03:17 AM

And yet somehow it's still true that most sea products are some of the most nutrient dense unadulterated truly paleo products on the market.

Cb9a270955e2c277a02c4a4b5dad10b5

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on April 27, 2013
at 02:59 AM

Lol Celton, feel free to ignore my advice and develop an iodine deficiency.

361e96d70d6d3b91d63f6ad975e60ab6

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on April 26, 2013
at 08:41 PM

I'm sorry, but this is terrible logic.

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