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Rice vs. Tubers: Which is the lesser of 2 evils or "safer," among starches?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created October 05, 2010 at 4:44 PM

Does anyone here eat rice? It seems pretty neutral in small amounts, if your blood sugar is okay. Personally, I'm going to try cauliflower rice just to see what all the (lack of) hype is all about, but do eat some regular rice with sushi and burrito bowls occasionally.

Rice doesn't have antinutrients (I think?). Many tubers have antinutrients. Both produce an insulin rush. Rice is largely void of nutrients, while some tubers are fairly nutritious. Some tubers are paleo, rice is not.

Some of us eat tubers if they don't make us feel bad, to support anaerobic activities, and because they taste good. Others avoid them if they are susceptible to starches or are sensitive to the nightshade varieties.

It seems that rice is one of those neolithic foods that isn't so bad for our metabolic milieu (in small amounts). Am I missing something?

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

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on November 04, 2011
at 11:51 AM

potatoes have a lot more nutrients than rice.....

Cc7381bd787721575ea9198048132adb

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on November 04, 2011
at 02:25 AM

You're just repeating what others have said in a condescending answer full of typos. -1

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on November 04, 2011
at 02:24 AM

Speaking of missing the point ... What we're saying is we've thought it over and the above are our decisions. Rice doesn't taste that great to me and I'm in weight loss mode so what's wrong with liking cauliflower better? Are you saying I should follow you blindly?

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on November 04, 2011
at 02:23 AM

Speaking of missing the point ... What we're saying is we've thought it over and the above are our decisions. Rice doesn't taste that great to me and I'm in weight loss mode so what's wrong with like cauliflower better?

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

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on November 04, 2011
at 02:21 AM

I fall in here I guess. I don't eat rice very often but don't feel that strongly about it either--seems fairly benign although I'm now more accustomed to cauliflower and like it better.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on February 05, 2011
at 04:05 AM

The problem is these are synthetically made nutrients and actually contain lots of "free glutamic acid" which can cause an MSG-type reaction in people. A headache or body ache after eating "nutrient enhanced" rice is a sure sign that you may be sensitive to factory created MSG aka "free glutamic acid" which isn't natural.

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on October 06, 2010
at 08:17 PM

To the contrary, tubers, like potatoes and sweet potatoes, are nutrient rich, especially in comparison to white rice. Plus, people who eat them have a good track record

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on October 06, 2010
at 07:05 PM

Long grain white rice is usually enriched. 1 cup (measured cooked) contains 15% of your daily iron, niacin and selenium, 25% of the thiamin, 33% of the manganese and some other nutrients in smaller amounts. White bread is also enriched, which is how it manages to provide any nutrition at all.

6eb2812b40855ba64508cbf2dc48f1b6

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on October 06, 2010
at 06:55 PM

Personally, I handle white rice with no problems. I eat it now and then. I do not have blood sugar issues, however.

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on October 06, 2010
at 06:20 PM

On the contract, tubers, like potatoes and sweet potatoes, are nutrient rich, especially in comparison to white rice. Plus, people who eat them have a good track record.

Fe783e04644862c30823614f31b9a996

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on October 05, 2010
at 09:17 PM

mmmmmmm, tubes.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on October 05, 2010
at 08:05 PM

Are you that person from the other thread who eats 250-300 grams of carbs a day? If so, just curious why you eat lots of tubers and no rice, given what you say above? The most widely eaten tubers don't seem that nutrient rich, compared to their downsides. Except they taste pretty good.

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on October 05, 2010
at 07:20 PM

Phytic acid is generally not found in its free form in food -- it's already bound to magnesium, calcium, or potassium usually. People even take it as a supplement... I don't think white rice has that many antinutrients anyway. I would go with tubers any day over rice.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on October 05, 2010
at 07:15 PM

Ah, I see! I reversed my downvote. However, couldn't antinutrients still bind nutrients in the other foods you are eating during the meal?

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on October 05, 2010
at 07:09 PM

You (and at least one other person) misinterpreted my comment. My point is that white rice is so nutrient poor that the anti-nutrient content isn't really a negative (because there are no nutrients in the first place).

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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at 05:39 PM

Technically, they do. If you are doing a cost-benefit analysis of eating something that is fairly neutral but nice to eat, such as celery, anti-nutrients deserve another glance. The above Don Matesz post was helpful in this regard.

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52cae90a114ca8f0404948e2b7ccb7ef

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on October 05, 2010
at 04:57 PM

I eat white rice sometimes, and I consider my metabolism to be pretty good, i.e. not deranged.

Don Matesz covered it here:

http://donmatesz.blogspot.com/2010/04/practically-paleo-perspective-rice.html

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on October 05, 2010
at 08:29 PM

Seems like you understand it fairly well

Rice is an empty starch, metabolically glucose and not much else. Not paleo, but only poison to someone with insulin resistance

Potatoes peeled and cooked are similarly starches and therefore questionable with the low carbers, I've found that I'm reacting well, both to the carbs and the magnesium/potassium etc , but feel they are also a very poor dietary choice if you are not both active and insulin sensitive/healed

6eb2812b40855ba64508cbf2dc48f1b6

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on October 06, 2010
at 06:55 PM

Personally, I handle white rice with no problems. I eat it now and then. I do not have blood sugar issues, however.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on November 04, 2011
at 02:21 AM

I fall in here I guess. I don't eat rice very often but don't feel that strongly about it either--seems fairly benign although I'm now more accustomed to cauliflower and like it better.

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4ab3b10d52010fcb0d00b1a893b3d9df

on October 05, 2010
at 08:06 PM

I prefer tubes. I have been Paleo for 10 months now, and I find I am much more sensitive to all types grains, including rice. My stomach aches after I have even a small amount of rice. Also, if I am not mistake, avoiding the skin of tubers gets rid of a good part of the anti-nutrients.

Fe783e04644862c30823614f31b9a996

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on October 05, 2010
at 09:17 PM

mmmmmmm, tubes.

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5841391284e7af8c495c54bd90d3a795

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on October 06, 2010
at 06:59 AM

I prefer potatoes. In fact, rice and noodles of all kinds do nothing for me. No flavor, iffy texture, gums up my teeth - and that was before I learned about the physiological effects of empty carbs.

Nowadays I'm not even all that tempted by plain potatoes (except maybe as a vehicle for butter) or bread even though Mom's homemade bread was the peak treat for me as a kid when I was growing up.

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on October 06, 2010
at 03:26 AM

The ironic part, is according to the SAD diet, eating rice is supposed to be eating healthy! But why would they say that when there are almost no nutrients and it's mostly empty calories!?!

6eb2812b40855ba64508cbf2dc48f1b6

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on October 06, 2010
at 07:05 PM

Long grain white rice is usually enriched. 1 cup (measured cooked) contains 15% of your daily iron, niacin and selenium, 25% of the thiamin, 33% of the manganese and some other nutrients in smaller amounts. White bread is also enriched, which is how it manages to provide any nutrition at all.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on February 05, 2011
at 04:05 AM

The problem is these are synthetically made nutrients and actually contain lots of "free glutamic acid" which can cause an MSG-type reaction in people. A headache or body ache after eating "nutrient enhanced" rice is a sure sign that you may be sensitive to factory created MSG aka "free glutamic acid" which isn't natural.

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13f8770fd7a9432699edbf19f3444d54

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on November 04, 2011
at 02:19 AM

After reading some of these posts, it is clear that a lot of the people here seem to be blind followers who are too ignorant and stupid to think for themselves.

Yup, white rice is devoid of nutrients. So? All of your food does not need to be nutritionally rich. Your body only needs a fixed amount of a particular nutrient. If you are following a paleo type diet, you should be getting way more than enough of these. The point of eating something like white rice is to obtain high quality fuel for your muscles (ever heard of athletes?).

So if you're getting enough nutrients from the rest of your diet(which you should be on a paleo diet), and you need to add high quality carbohydrate for fueling your muscles and are on a paleo diet what do you do? Well, nothing really falls into these category in paleo foods. So, let's add something that has as few antinutrients as possible. White rice or potatoes. Yes, their devoid of nutrients, but if you are making that arguing, you are missing the point by a large margin and are probably wondering around lost, like a confused child.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on November 04, 2011
at 11:51 AM

potatoes have a lot more nutrients than rice.....

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on November 04, 2011
at 02:23 AM

Speaking of missing the point ... What we're saying is we've thought it over and the above are our decisions. Rice doesn't taste that great to me and I'm in weight loss mode so what's wrong with like cauliflower better?

Cc7381bd787721575ea9198048132adb

(5541)

on November 04, 2011
at 02:25 AM

You're just repeating what others have said in a condescending answer full of typos. -1

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on November 04, 2011
at 02:24 AM

Speaking of missing the point ... What we're saying is we've thought it over and the above are our decisions. Rice doesn't taste that great to me and I'm in weight loss mode so what's wrong with liking cauliflower better? Are you saying I should follow you blindly?

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4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

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on October 05, 2010
at 05:33 PM

Anti-nutrients don't matter if there are no nutrients either.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on October 05, 2010
at 07:15 PM

Ah, I see! I reversed my downvote. However, couldn't antinutrients still bind nutrients in the other foods you are eating during the meal?

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

(4359)

on October 05, 2010
at 07:09 PM

You (and at least one other person) misinterpreted my comment. My point is that white rice is so nutrient poor that the anti-nutrient content isn't really a negative (because there are no nutrients in the first place).

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

(4359)

on October 05, 2010
at 07:20 PM

Phytic acid is generally not found in its free form in food -- it's already bound to magnesium, calcium, or potassium usually. People even take it as a supplement... I don't think white rice has that many antinutrients anyway. I would go with tubers any day over rice.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on October 05, 2010
at 05:39 PM

Technically, they do. If you are doing a cost-benefit analysis of eating something that is fairly neutral but nice to eat, such as celery, anti-nutrients deserve another glance. The above Don Matesz post was helpful in this regard.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on October 05, 2010
at 08:05 PM

Are you that person from the other thread who eats 250-300 grams of carbs a day? If so, just curious why you eat lots of tubers and no rice, given what you say above? The most widely eaten tubers don't seem that nutrient rich, compared to their downsides. Except they taste pretty good.

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

(4359)

on October 06, 2010
at 06:20 PM

On the contract, tubers, like potatoes and sweet potatoes, are nutrient rich, especially in comparison to white rice. Plus, people who eat them have a good track record.

4781cf8ae1bfcb558dfb056af17bea94

(4359)

on October 06, 2010
at 08:17 PM

To the contrary, tubers, like potatoes and sweet potatoes, are nutrient rich, especially in comparison to white rice. Plus, people who eat them have a good track record

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