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probiotics help

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created August 15, 2012 at 7:14 PM

hi

i have been taking bio kult for the past week lately.

can i still carbohydrates or will that feed bad bacteria?

and how do i know my probiotics are working? are the die off symptoms consistent?

what is it meant by therapeutic dose?

sorry for all the questions, still a newbie!

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on August 31, 2012
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Enough coconut oil will create ketones even in the presence of a high carbohydrate diet. A little coconut oil is supposed to be helpful because of the caprylic acid in it, but a lot will help your body provide more food for the little buggers.

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on August 30, 2012
at 07:31 AM

Hi, does eating coconut and eating carbs put you in ketosis?

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Because when your body is in ketosis, you create ketones for most of your fuel, and the candida thrive on ketones.

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on August 30, 2012
at 03:01 AM

Why should you stay out of ketosis for this?

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Some detrimental bacteria can even thrive on iron, so anything, not just carbs could potentially feed either pathogenic or beneficial bacteria, depending on what you eat and what issues you are having.

You are speaking of die-off, so I suspect you are referring specifically to a fungal infection like candida. This one can be a tricky beast to outsmart because it lives off of both sugars and ketones quite readily. Not eating any carbs, you start to produce ketones, and that can help the candida actually grow and spread through the body at an accelerated rate.

The probiotics/beneficial bacteria you take also need food, and that food is called prebiotics, which usually consists of some sort of fiber, sugar, or starch. So if you want to get the most bang out of your probiotic buck, and help them multiply on their own, it helps to toss them a bit of food. Root vegetables, and alliums (like garlic and onions) usually provide a good mix of what they want to eat. Squash and small amounts of ground seeds or nuts can also help. You'll want to eat enough of that stuff to just stay out of ketosis. Refined grain products, unfermented dairy, and simple sugars, or really sugary fruits, are the carbs that are probably worth avoiding while you try to tackle this.

Bottled probiotics if you are willing to pay enough, can be really helpful. I have had some very remarkable results with Theramedix brand. I tried Prescript Assist, but didn't really notice anything, although others say it is a great one. You can also just eat fermented foods like lacto-fermented sauerkraut, salsa, kim chi, pickles, etc. And kombucha or water kefir. If you tolerate dairy, milk kefir, yogurt, or real sour cream.

A therapeutic dose is anything that has 2 billion or more live beneficial bacteria per dose. But I tend to aim higher, like 10 billion, being the cynic I am, and not trusting the labels to accurately depict how many live cultures are in there. Buying probiotics in the refrigerator section is also a good idea, some are shelf stable at room temperature, but many are not. If you start to get achy, headachy, or really fatigued, that can be die-off, and it sucks, it sucks bad. Unless you can spare a month lying around feeling like utter crap, go slow, you'll still get there.

While you are doing all that, working on the health of your gut lining can help prevent future systemic infections. Broth, gelatin, and l-glutamine are all popular for helping reduce "leaky gut".

And, if the probiotics don't do it for you, it could be something else, or if it is candida, you might be better off hitting it with the big guns and getting a prescription from your doctor for an antifungal medication.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on August 30, 2012
at 05:39 AM

Because when your body is in ketosis, you create ketones for most of your fuel, and the candida thrive on ketones.

Adb6852b4f2f42904da67708ffcd59f5

(501)

on August 30, 2012
at 07:31 AM

Hi, does eating coconut and eating carbs put you in ketosis?

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on August 31, 2012
at 06:52 AM

Enough coconut oil will create ketones even in the presence of a high carbohydrate diet. A little coconut oil is supposed to be helpful because of the caprylic acid in it, but a lot will help your body provide more food for the little buggers.

194d8e8140425057fe06202e1e5822a7

(3979)

on August 30, 2012
at 03:01 AM

Why should you stay out of ketosis for this?

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on August 15, 2012
at 11:51 PM

can i still carbohydrates or will that feed bad bacteria?

All carbohydrates feed and encourage bacterial/yeast growth. Some bacteria have a preference for certain types of sugars, such as lactobacillus generally doing better with lactase. That being said, they are also able to utilize other sugars and thrive fine on those. Fructose in particular can feed the pathogenic microbes efficiently. Starch, especially if you have digestive issues, may encourage yeast overgrowth due to the abundance of glucose in starchy foods.

According to Mat Lalonde starchy foods aren't likely to feed yeast or cause digestive issues because of how "fragile" the glucose chains are. I for one think this is complete bull and from my experience, starch is by far the hardest thing to digest for myself and many people.

and how do i know my probiotics are working? are the die off symptoms consistent?

Short answer is, you don't unless your health issues are subsiding. Die-off doesn't always happen, especially if you're not taking sufficient doses. But then again, I wouldn't encourage you to take enough to experience significant die-off, because die-off makes you feel like you want to die. Anyone who does not believe in die-off and tells you otherwise, has never experienced die-off.

Die-off symptoms are completely unpredictable and every little bodily discomfort may be a sign of a die-off or it may be a sign of your health issues.

what is it meant by therapeutic dose?

A dose high and effective enough to adhere to the intestinal tract and actually improve your health. Most probiotics on the market are essentially useless and overpriced because they're meant to keep healthy people healthy. They're not meant to really change the ecology of your gut and restore its function.

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on August 16, 2012
at 12:51 AM

Any recommended brands? Thanks.

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