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Please hack my higher cholesterol levels after 7 months Paleo

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created July 22, 2013 at 8:43 PM

So I've been eating Paleo for 7 months now (started in late December). I do eat white rice and potatoes and I know some people disagree that these are Paleo but I love them. I just had my first lipid panel since I went Paleo and was surprised to see my levels rise I eat a lot of animal fat, butter and avacado. I have lost body fat and lost 7 lbs since starting. I now have a BMI of 23.5 so I thought I was doing well. Here are my most recent results vs. May of 2012. Should I be concerned?

                 May 2012                

Total 172
HDL 51
Trig. 65
LDL 108
CHOL/HDLC Ratio 3.4
Non-HDL 121

Current 2013 Total 206 HDL 65 Trig 68 LDL 127 CHOL/HDLC Ratio 3.2 Non-HDL 141

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on July 30, 2013
at 01:23 PM

I don't know about cholesterol being a necessary nutrient because we can make our own, but I agree with the rest.

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on July 30, 2013
at 12:46 PM

There IS risk from cholesterol. It has been definitively studied on large populations over long periods of time. Run the CVD risk calculator. http://hp2010.nhlbihin.net/atpiii/calculator.asp For most people changes of TC by 20-40 points do not greatly change CVD risk. Reducing CVD risk is done more effectively by lowering blood pressure and raising HDL, not by manipulating TC.

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on July 30, 2013
at 12:34 PM

High TC, combined with other conditions such as obesity, high blood pressure, and advanced age is not something good. The OP doesn't have all the other baggage, so the risk is minimal. I wish I were at that TC level.

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on July 23, 2013
at 03:57 AM

@Matt - Love ya for pointing out that not every increase is statistically _or_ practically significant. But is 34 points really a reasonable amount of error for a cholesterol test? That's massive! I had no idea.

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on July 23, 2013
at 12:04 AM

Non-significant increase, error on serum lipids is pretty large, and some pretty innocuous things can increase them (a bruise, for instance).

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on July 22, 2013
at 11:40 PM

Your numbers look pretty good to me. If you're still concerned, you could ask for the NMR LIPO profile test to measure LDL particle number. I think it's about $130 without insurance. More info here: http://chriskresser.com/the-diet-heart-myth-why-everyone-should-know-their-ldl-particle-number It's also available through directlabs.com if you want to do it yourself.

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on July 22, 2013
at 11:30 PM

Ya, what he said ^^

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on July 22, 2013
at 10:08 PM

How about giving a little more info on what you eat, and how you exercise.

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on July 22, 2013
at 09:06 PM

I wouldn't worry, your numbers seem fine to me. There hasn't been a clear, definite study that high cholesterol indeed causes heart disease - on the contrary, the Norwegian HUNT2 study found that higher cholesterol provides longevity (link: http://blog.perfecthealthmonitor.com/2013/01/the-hunt2-study-is-cholesterol-bad-for.html)

More than staring at individual numbers, I'd consider the CHOL/HDLC ratio most important. In your case it has even gone down, which is an improvement. The optimal ratio is anything less than 4.5.

It is common for cholesterol to rise on Paleo/Primal because of the increased consumption of saturated, natural fats.

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I wouldn't change anything on your diet solely based on the numbers, keep up the good work!

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on July 30, 2013
at 12:46 PM

There IS risk from cholesterol. It has been definitively studied on large populations over long periods of time. Run the CVD risk calculator. http://hp2010.nhlbihin.net/atpiii/calculator.asp For most people changes of TC by 20-40 points do not greatly change CVD risk. Reducing CVD risk is done more effectively by lowering blood pressure and raising HDL, not by manipulating TC.

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on July 23, 2013
at 04:07 AM

There are many published studies on cholesterol and mortality, all pointing to the same answer: your mortality is lowest when your cholesterol is between 200 and 220 (results on americans only say 200, results from nations comparisons say 220). mortality rises slowly on the upper side, and faster on the lower side. Strokes, for example, are far more common for low cholesterol. 172 is OK and you are improving. It is about as good as 250 but far better than 150. Also, it is summer now, possibly in the winter it will be a bit higher and closer to the sweet spot. Cholesterol is a necessary nutrient, and all such nutrients exhibit a U-shaped curve.

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on July 30, 2013
at 01:23 PM

I don't know about cholesterol being a necessary nutrient because we can make our own, but I agree with the rest.

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on July 30, 2013
at 10:19 AM

I have to contribute as well here and agree that I have been reading a lot about how cholesterol might be related to heart disease and did not find a lot. Many argue about, however people are keep living which is good! You just make sure you stick to the foods that lower cholesterol

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on July 23, 2013
at 03:51 AM

Cholesteral has not been shown to actually cause heart disease, and is necessary to optimal health and functioning. I just finished reading Primal Body - Primal Mind , and it completely revolutionized my view !!

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on July 30, 2013
at 12:34 PM

High TC, combined with other conditions such as obesity, high blood pressure, and advanced age is not something good. The OP doesn't have all the other baggage, so the risk is minimal. I wish I were at that TC level.

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