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Paleo without cooking oils? Possible?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created May 07, 2013 at 9:47 PM

Cooking oils like butter, olive, coconut, avocado, palm and macadamia oils did not exist in the the Paleolithic era. Rendered animal fats like tallow, duck fat, chicken fat and lard seem more paleo than those other man made processed oils. So why do we use these nutrient devoid calories for cooking everyday? They are a waste of money. I'm going to cut them out completely for a full 30 days to see what happens. I'm going to eat only fruits, veggies, and lots of fatty cuts of beef, lamb,fish, seafood. I'm going to use a crock pot instead of a frying pan to make these meals. What do you guys think of cooking oils? They are a neolithic invention and have no vitamins, minerals, antioxidants but are full of useless calories. I rather eat coconut cream/butter than use coconut oil. I rather eat a whole hass avocado in its natural state, then use avocado oil, I rather eat a handful of macadamia nuts....well you get the picture. Plant based cooking oils are all processed and a concentrated source of calories. I thought the paleo way of eating was to eat food in it's whole natural form, the way mother nature intented.

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on May 08, 2013
at 01:19 PM

I wanted to tell the same, specially regarding vitamin E which is one of the most potent antioxidants and is found in vegetable oils such as olive oil. But yeah I also agree that there shouldn't be a real need for cooking with oils. I myself soak with water on the frying pan most of my greens and roast the meat and if I want flavour then I add the oils post-cooking so they are not oxidized. If I need to cook then I use ghee or butter, not much really just what I need in order to don't get the food stitched in the frying pan hehe.

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on May 07, 2013
at 11:24 PM

I know right? I am looking forward to the contradiction in terms that will be manifest when the Paleo section of Disneyland opens, which it eventually will. That's what happens with mainstream recognition!

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

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on May 07, 2013
at 11:16 PM

Paleo-Disneyland ... now THAT I want to see!

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on May 07, 2013
at 10:38 PM

Upvoted greymouser, for saying what I wanted to say with more kindness and eloquence! Not to mention some facts thrown in for good measure...

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Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on May 07, 2013
at 10:01 PM

They are a neolithic invention and have no vitamins, minerals, antioxidants but are full of useless calories.

This is false. All virgin, pressed oils (e.g. olive, coconut, etcetera) are chock full of various compounds, healthful or not. This is in sharp contrast to refined seed oils, which are most often chemically stripped of everything that would give them flavor. You are confusing oils like refined corn oil with something like cold pressed olive oil - very, very different end products from very different processes.

But anyways, yeah, go for it! Cooking without oils is completely feasible. Roasting is one of the easiest methods to prepare food (once you get the hang of it!). Frying itself was likely only a rare event in the paleolithic era - most likely done over a pulled piece of oiled leather over a campfire, and likely only in the late paleolithic. I don't think anyone's going to stop you from cooking meats whole -- i.e. with its natural complement of protein and fat. Many have done this before, no one is going to think you are weird. :-)

Finally, "mother nature" didn't intend anything. ;-) It's a handy euphemism, but doesn't really illustrate the reality of evolution. Also, while many paleo-ers will support someone that wants to try re-enactment type paleo, re-enactment of an actual paleolithic lifestyle itself isn't a requirement of "paleo".

Good luck in your adventure!

618fc5298c4a96b817c4918c795a875f

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on May 07, 2013
at 10:38 PM

Upvoted greymouser, for saying what I wanted to say with more kindness and eloquence! Not to mention some facts thrown in for good measure...

048dd52752c45129c1212bfffb37ca72

(3150)

on May 08, 2013
at 01:19 PM

I wanted to tell the same, specially regarding vitamin E which is one of the most potent antioxidants and is found in vegetable oils such as olive oil. But yeah I also agree that there shouldn't be a real need for cooking with oils. I myself soak with water on the frying pan most of my greens and roast the meat and if I want flavour then I add the oils post-cooking so they are not oxidized. If I need to cook then I use ghee or butter, not much really just what I need in order to don't get the food stitched in the frying pan hehe.

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on May 08, 2013
at 02:33 AM

The obsession with what supposedly is or isn't paleo is absolutely ridiculous, and tantamount to dick measuring.

Macadamia nut oil is incredible: silky and buttery. It's expensive, but my god, it's delicious.

Lard, tallow, butter and coconut oil are my favourite fats to consume. I think tallow is richer and has more depth of flavour than butter for most things, but you'll pry my Quebec butter from my cold dead hands.

EAT THE FOOD.

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618fc5298c4a96b817c4918c795a875f

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on May 07, 2013
at 10:08 PM

We aren't trying to create Paleo-Disneyland here. Are you also wearing a loincloth and getting ready to go hunt a mastodon with the spear you made yourself? We are trying to eat in an optimal way for here, right now, the 21st century. To do something like cutting out beneficial fats that can be used for cooking like butter and coconut oil just because they are "neolithic" (ooo what a BAD WORD) is cutting off your nose to spite your hairy primal face. If they are tolerated, they are beneficial and indispensable for some people. It doesn't benefit anyone to see this lifestyle as a recreation - it is a guideline based on eschewing processed foods. The whole "PALEO" thing isn't supposed to be literal- it is an example, a touchstone. it is a thing to think about, not a mandate to live as if we are Neanderthals. What are you thinking being so rigid and dogmatic and judging those who are more flexible and thoughtful, who are trying to use everything at their disposal to live a healthier live as determined by themselves through thoughtful experimentation? You seem to have intense control issues. Maybe upping your magnesium intake will help that.

All in all, I am really not wanting to take my health and diet advice from someone who is one step away from living in a Paleo Renaissance Faire type of delusion

42cd0feeeda5fa2e2fe1c4fd8255073a

(1930)

on May 07, 2013
at 11:16 PM

Paleo-Disneyland ... now THAT I want to see!

618fc5298c4a96b817c4918c795a875f

(1217)

on May 07, 2013
at 11:24 PM

I know right? I am looking forward to the contradiction in terms that will be manifest when the Paleo section of Disneyland opens, which it eventually will. That's what happens with mainstream recognition!

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on May 08, 2013
at 01:03 PM

I operate on the question "Can I make this myself?" I know how to make butter, olive oil, & coconut oil. I've made butter before, it takes a while so I don't do it often. I don't know how to make canola oil, other than it involves some heavy machinery and chemicals. So I don't eat it.

I use this thought process on most everything I eat. Could I acquire/make this my self, at least theoretically.

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on May 07, 2013
at 10:36 PM

Go for it man. Ivymcivy doesn't know what he's talking about, he's just jealous because he has to fry all his meat in pasteurized butter. :)

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