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Paleo Versions, who to believe

Answered on September 05, 2014
Created February 19, 2014 at 12:19 AM

I've only joined Paleohacks yesterday & I now have a new outlook on Paleo.

Paleo is like God

Paleohacks is full of people who believe in God but have their own religion lol

This place is full of mostly pretend experts that all scream "my way of Paleo is correct" but yet we all agree in the same ultimate goal, Great Health

So how is a newbie suppose to follow Paleo advice when soooo many can't agree on what Paleo principle is true & correct?

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on February 20, 2014
at 10:30 PM

Agreed. This is the most open-minded health forum out there. Some advocate 70% of kcals from fat; others advocate 705 of kcals from carbs. Which is right? That depends on you. We all agree with the following 3 principles:

1. no processed sugar

2. no vegetable oils/margarine

3. no processed wheat/grains

After that, it depends on the person.

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on February 20, 2014
at 02:15 AM

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on February 20, 2014
at 12:52 AM

Totally making potato starch brownies this weekend. =P

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on February 19, 2014
at 08:06 PM

Yes, good point. Doctors might be used to being listened to with a great deal of attentiveness from their patients, so it might be a shock to many of them to find such rebellious skepticism on the internet, from people who would otherwise be considered much less knowledgeable than themselves. That must have made for some epic back and forth discussions.

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on February 19, 2014
at 07:31 PM

You should have seen it here when Jack Kruse was a regular. I'll give him credit for the big ass breakfast for resetting your leptin satiation signaling. But it was all presented cryptically and you set yourself up as a target if you got it wrong. After getting slapped silly a few times, skepticism turned to cynicism. Maybe it's a doctor/power thing that makes them poor communicators.

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on February 19, 2014
at 01:09 AM

dont listen to all those other guys. Just come over to the dark side. We have arrowroot brownies.

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on February 20, 2014
at 12:52 AM

Totally making potato starch brownies this weekend. =P

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on September 05, 2014
at 06:13 PM

Cut out the sugar. Cut out ALL Grains, give it at least 2 weeks and slowly add them back in and see how you 'look, feel and perform' as robb wolf says. And cut out all of those disgusting heart attack in a bottle vegetable oils. Then, add in the best quality meats and veggies you can find, that you tolerate, can afford, and can find. Then once you figure out a diet that works for you, listen to many different experts, see what sticks with you and makes sense, QUESTION EVERYTHING they said, try it, see if it works for you or not. If it works, great. If it doesn't, then DONT DO IT! You are unique, do what works for you. I can't eat any nightshades because of my autoimmunity, however I can eat lots of tabasco sauce (crazy right?) with absolutely no problem. 

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on February 23, 2014
at 06:17 PM

Ok I too am a newbie, 2 months, but have found ALL the blogs, books and sites beneficial. I describe paleo like I describe Judaism (yes I am Jewish). You find what works best for you. Some keep kosher, some keep Shabbath, some do both, and some not at all. Paleo is about coming to terms with yourself for better health.

I started to help a friend with an autoimmune disease. I have since lost 30 lbs , my sugar numbers are waaaay down. Ii follow it my way. It works for me. Find what feels right and works for you.

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on February 19, 2014
at 02:46 PM

How about a healthy dose of skepticism? Listen to whatever advice people give you regarding nutrition, but demand evidence to substantiate said advice. If they are unable to provide it (in official formats such as clinical research, valid physiological explanations, and other forms of scientific proof) you should be skeptical of such claims, however, if they are able to provide evidence to verify their assertions, then you might do well to begin looking further into it, as they could quite possibly be giving you valuable advice.

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on February 19, 2014
at 07:31 PM

You should have seen it here when Jack Kruse was a regular. I'll give him credit for the big ass breakfast for resetting your leptin satiation signaling. But it was all presented cryptically and you set yourself up as a target if you got it wrong. After getting slapped silly a few times, skepticism turned to cynicism. Maybe it's a doctor/power thing that makes them poor communicators.

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on February 19, 2014
at 02:10 PM

I've found that many people here are open-minded and offer helpful suggestions based on experience. You'll come to find that there is no one Paleo version, and that there are many "grey areas" that you just have to navigate based on how it makes you feel. The big example is dairy...although cavemen might not have eaten it, it doesn't mean it has no benefits. When in doubt, eliminate it and then reintroduce it later and see how it makes you feel. And/or just comply to the 80/20 rule and have it once in a while.

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on February 19, 2014
at 05:09 AM

OP said "This place is full of mostly pretend experts that all scream "my way of Paleo is correct" but yet we all agree in the same ultimate goal, Great Health"

I don't get that at all, you must be reading a different forum. Mostly you get people giving anecdotal information and projecting it out as applying to everyone. I do it as well and don't apologize in the least. There really isn't a lot of science to back up most of our positions in Paleo. As long as people are thinking of great health then they have a better chance of achieving it over the general population of SAD eaters.

So basically your first post is derogatory towards most of us - yeah that is my point.

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on February 20, 2014
at 10:30 PM

Agreed. This is the most open-minded health forum out there. Some advocate 70% of kcals from fat; others advocate 705 of kcals from carbs. Which is right? That depends on you. We all agree with the following 3 principles:

1. no processed sugar

2. no vegetable oils/margarine

3. no processed wheat/grains

After that, it depends on the person.

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on February 19, 2014
at 05:07 AM

My way is correct... For me. And so will yours be, when you find what works...

(And it's not like there is an end to history anyway... What works now can be and might necessarily be adapted tomorrow...)

You've been in the airforce... Hopefully you learnt how to critically think along the way... That's an answer to your question - read, talk, figure things out...

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on February 19, 2014
at 05:01 AM

I agree OzyMark I am a newbie too and I found all this different information a bit confusing. I have now decided to read and take in the bits to suit me and what I want from Paleo. The thing I did find helped in the beginning was to clean out my pantry which was very hard to do as all that "stuff" was still "good" and then fill it with Paleo "Stuff".

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on February 19, 2014
at 03:51 AM

I got here by dropping 40kg after getting rid of sugar, (sweet Poison David Gillespie & Sarah Wilson) but I needed to then get my fitness back (Body by Science, Douge McGuff) but his theory was Diet HAD to be correct before serious fitness can be achieved. He follows Mark Sissons approach with Paleo. So here I am!

BUT. From my previous study & research I find so many conflicting theories & opinions about the whole Fructose & Sugar thing, but this is affecting me in making good food choices as a lot of ingredients are saying things like sweeten with Honey or Maple Syrup. It's just hard to make an informed decision when the masses don't agree even within our own camp????

I tried to base my decisions from a Biochemistry 101 lecture that really hit home with some clear to understand explanation to the relationship of our cell structure & our Psleo diet http://www.the21convention.com/2011/03/05/doug-mcguff-t21c-2010/ fast forward to 1:02:40 to get to the bio 101. This video fits in with my personal understanding & beliefs especially the part about how Fructose reacts in our bodies.

All I need to figure out is how to cook good family meals & snacks while staying true to my understanding & experience. I thought it would be easy but !!!!ahhhh!!!! What a can of worms (Paleo grass fed worms) lol

I am happy I've found this site as it does have some great help and a lot of characters on it but on the down side also quite a few haters & right fighters.

I guess that's Life really :) "Grok on"

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on February 19, 2014
at 01:52 AM

It took me more than a year of trial and error... the basic guideline is to eat whole foods and avoid processed "food," but the details are going to depend on who you are and what goals you have.

For example, I avoid sugar as much as possible except for in fruits and the like. It just causes me a lot of acne and makes me feel fatter. Instead I sometimes use Stevia. Some people would never take this approach, they would rather avoid fake sugars and instead go for a little honey or molasses.

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on February 19, 2014
at 01:41 AM

No one is right because no one ancestral group was like another. Pick one - from Hazda to Salish, emulate them, and you're golden. Whichever you choose hunt and gather and eat locally. As much as you can.

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on February 19, 2014
at 01:40 AM

glad to see their not all Anal :) some still have their Humour @CDone

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