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Paleo Summit Hack-a-thon: Mark Sisson, 2/26

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created February 26, 2012 at 3:24 AM

What: The Paleo Summit (see also this post)

Who: Mark Sisson ??? Author, The Primal Blueprint

Topic: Ancestral Living Defined. Mark Sisson kicks off The Paleo Summit by clearly defining paleo/primal living. Are grains safe to eat? Is dairy Paleo? Did your ancestors cut the saturated fat? Mark gives us the scoop.

What did you think of Mark's presentation?

24df4e0d0e7ce98963d4641fae1a60e5

on February 27, 2012
at 11:33 PM

Jeez. I have no problem with plugging books and such Loon, it's the Primal (not-so) Fuel ad that's pathetic

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on February 27, 2012
at 10:38 PM

All the speakers plug their books, etc at the end.

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on February 27, 2012
at 10:34 PM

+1 Shari!!!!!!!!

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on February 27, 2012
at 04:21 AM

Thanks Rose. Yes I think I am pretty open minded. While low carb is what worked for me I don't claim it's right for everyone. I do think it's right for the vast majority of obese and morbidly obese but so do many others. Sue I guess I'm just not sure what your point is?

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on February 27, 2012
at 04:18 AM

Yes Sue that is correct. But you say it like this is a bad thing???

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on February 27, 2012
at 04:12 AM

Shari's been pretty open-minded, Sue. In fact, I know a lot of people for whom low carb works great, and yet they're not going around slamming people who eat higher-carb--do what works for you, and all that. But there sure do seem to be some pissed off higher-carbers who can't *believe* low-carb works for *anyone* else. Wonder what that's all about.

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on February 27, 2012
at 03:51 AM

Sue, you crack me up girl! What does that mean? Mark Sisson is FOR low carb? I'm afraid your point, if there actually is one, is lost on me. If you want to give it another go I'm all ears.

24df4e0d0e7ce98963d4641fae1a60e5

on February 27, 2012
at 01:20 AM

@Dylan - I just thought of a better analogy. It's more like saying it's OK for a Catholic priest to install a condom machine in the restroom to raise funds for the church b/c those funds will help support programs that introduce more people to God. @David: It's not the ad itself, it's what it's for. Primal Fuel is NOT paleo. It's more like the elements he spoke against in the very presentation.

C00e493393828df34be65ddc25456c7c

(610)

on February 27, 2012
at 01:19 AM

You love everyone that is FOR low carb

65125edd5aafad39b3d5b3a8b4a36bb7

(6082)

on February 26, 2012
at 11:56 PM

Well, I do believe that macadamia nuts (m.n.) aren't naturally poisonous, like cashews are. But the fatty acids in m.n. are mostly monounsaturated, which is nice. I'd eat them all the time if I could afford it.

65125edd5aafad39b3d5b3a8b4a36bb7

(6082)

on February 26, 2012
at 11:54 PM

You got a free seminar with a highly respected health expert. I think you can handle being shown a quick ad at the end of the presentation. That is after all, how free stuff is made available to the general public.

B525b3e4b1d6f1cdceec943cdec6eb7d

(1680)

on February 26, 2012
at 09:57 PM

There was an ad? I missed that altogether.

24df4e0d0e7ce98963d4641fae1a60e5

on February 26, 2012
at 08:43 PM

I agree Nance, overall a plus -- moreso now that he is tacking away from the "low carb" camp. It is a very distinct shift. I'd have to relisten but I'm not sure he even mentioned the two words "low carb" together this time.

24df4e0d0e7ce98963d4641fae1a60e5

on February 26, 2012
at 08:41 PM

@Dylan: Fair 'nuff, but where to draw the line. You know if Dr. Oz went paleo tomorrow his widespread commercial appeal would likely eclipse the entire existing paleosphere and folks would be dumping big bucks on PaleOZ bars and stuff.

22424c9eef944ade83d4e4ffda907056

(1402)

on February 26, 2012
at 08:10 PM

In all fairness, I think a lot of people found the concept because of his marketing.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on February 26, 2012
at 07:59 PM

I know, I love Mark but I think of him as a paleo-politician/marketer. I also believe he's sincere and an overall plus for the community, but there's always a sales pitch.

24df4e0d0e7ce98963d4641fae1a60e5

on February 26, 2012
at 07:50 PM

Also didn't even mention cheese one way or the other.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on February 26, 2012
at 06:49 PM

@Resurgent, thanks, I've read that post before but it's really about "junk" supermarket yogurt. I make heirloom, extra-fat Bulgarian yogurt and the only sweetener, if any, I use is fruit. I was hoping he'd address that sort of traditional fermented foods which were certainly consumed 200+ years ago. Based on the last paragraph in the post you linked, I assume he's neutral to positive.

A089b683ee0498f2b21b7edfa300e405

(3895)

on February 26, 2012
at 06:40 PM

here is his view http://www.marksdailyapple.com/yogurt-mania/

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on February 26, 2012
at 04:58 PM

Yeah....great overview to kick it off.

5fb654380d04ac372b750ca3faad2e99

(277)

on February 26, 2012
at 10:17 AM

You should always use disposable addresses when possible. I use spamgourmet.com for mine. I have over 1000 addresses now

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on February 26, 2012
at 05:26 AM

Yeah..! Hope I dont have to change my e-mail again after this....

41dfb1a4fecb38d24075ff52f13ccb28

on February 26, 2012
at 04:44 AM

I was just thinking that. Did you get a message that said "We have received repeated subscriptions from your computer. To prevent automated signups we verify that it is a person signing up, and not an automated script." too?

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98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

on February 26, 2012
at 02:20 PM

How can you not love this guy? As usual he has shown himself to be the go-to guy for making paleo/primal/ancestral eating easy to understand and accessible to all. Not much in it for the seasoned professional but as far as an overview of ancestral eating and living I think he knocked it out of the park once again.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on February 26, 2012
at 04:58 PM

Yeah....great overview to kick it off.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on February 27, 2012
at 04:12 AM

Shari's been pretty open-minded, Sue. In fact, I know a lot of people for whom low carb works great, and yet they're not going around slamming people who eat higher-carb--do what works for you, and all that. But there sure do seem to be some pissed off higher-carbers who can't *believe* low-carb works for *anyone* else. Wonder what that's all about.

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on February 27, 2012
at 04:21 AM

Thanks Rose. Yes I think I am pretty open minded. While low carb is what worked for me I don't claim it's right for everyone. I do think it's right for the vast majority of obese and morbidly obese but so do many others. Sue I guess I'm just not sure what your point is?

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on February 27, 2012
at 04:18 AM

Yes Sue that is correct. But you say it like this is a bad thing???

C00e493393828df34be65ddc25456c7c

(610)

on February 27, 2012
at 01:19 AM

You love everyone that is FOR low carb

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on February 27, 2012
at 03:51 AM

Sue, you crack me up girl! What does that mean? Mark Sisson is FOR low carb? I'm afraid your point, if there actually is one, is lost on me. If you want to give it another go I'm all ears.

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on February 27, 2012
at 10:34 PM

+1 Shari!!!!!!!!

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24df4e0d0e7ce98963d4641fae1a60e5

on February 26, 2012
at 07:55 PM

My review for anyone interested: http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2012/02/live-blogging-from-paleo-summit-i-mark.html

Overall I had a pretty positive reaction. I only cringed with his sneering chuckle at the mention of safe starches and a few things he seems to have made up out of thin air. Still a nice overview for a newbie.

As an educator I think describing any online certification program in PB as equivalent to a 300 level college course is a bit much.

Can't get over being left with the ad for Primal Fuel though. :(

8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on February 27, 2012
at 10:38 PM

All the speakers plug their books, etc at the end.

24df4e0d0e7ce98963d4641fae1a60e5

on February 26, 2012
at 08:41 PM

@Dylan: Fair 'nuff, but where to draw the line. You know if Dr. Oz went paleo tomorrow his widespread commercial appeal would likely eclipse the entire existing paleosphere and folks would be dumping big bucks on PaleOZ bars and stuff.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on February 26, 2012
at 07:59 PM

I know, I love Mark but I think of him as a paleo-politician/marketer. I also believe he's sincere and an overall plus for the community, but there's always a sales pitch.

B525b3e4b1d6f1cdceec943cdec6eb7d

(1680)

on February 26, 2012
at 09:57 PM

There was an ad? I missed that altogether.

22424c9eef944ade83d4e4ffda907056

(1402)

on February 26, 2012
at 08:10 PM

In all fairness, I think a lot of people found the concept because of his marketing.

65125edd5aafad39b3d5b3a8b4a36bb7

(6082)

on February 26, 2012
at 11:54 PM

You got a free seminar with a highly respected health expert. I think you can handle being shown a quick ad at the end of the presentation. That is after all, how free stuff is made available to the general public.

24df4e0d0e7ce98963d4641fae1a60e5

on February 26, 2012
at 08:43 PM

I agree Nance, overall a plus -- moreso now that he is tacking away from the "low carb" camp. It is a very distinct shift. I'd have to relisten but I'm not sure he even mentioned the two words "low carb" together this time.

24df4e0d0e7ce98963d4641fae1a60e5

on February 27, 2012
at 01:20 AM

@Dylan - I just thought of a better analogy. It's more like saying it's OK for a Catholic priest to install a condom machine in the restroom to raise funds for the church b/c those funds will help support programs that introduce more people to God. @David: It's not the ad itself, it's what it's for. Primal Fuel is NOT paleo. It's more like the elements he spoke against in the very presentation.

24df4e0d0e7ce98963d4641fae1a60e5

on February 27, 2012
at 11:33 PM

Jeez. I have no problem with plugging books and such Loon, it's the Primal (not-so) Fuel ad that's pathetic

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B525b3e4b1d6f1cdceec943cdec6eb7d

(1680)

on February 26, 2012
at 07:22 PM

That was fun. I typed about 2000 words of notes as the video played, mostly because this is a good way for me to force myself to pay attention. So now I've got some stuff to review and some things to read up on.

Most of the information in Mark's talk was review for me, but still useful to hear: I'm working to improve the way I can explain these things to people who ask about my diet, so hearing Mark's answers is always good in that regard.

A few things I learned:

  • Macademia nuts are that much better than cashews? Huh. I'll include them in today's chocolate dessert, instead of the cashews I was planning to use.

  • I need to learn more about macronutrients.

  • Mark's going to offer an online course that will certify people? Ohmygoodness, sign me up for that. I think he said it'll be the equivalent of a 300-level college course, and will prepare people to explain the primal diet to others. I'm excited about that!

65125edd5aafad39b3d5b3a8b4a36bb7

(6082)

on February 26, 2012
at 11:56 PM

Well, I do believe that macadamia nuts (m.n.) aren't naturally poisonous, like cashews are. But the fatty acids in m.n. are mostly monounsaturated, which is nice. I'd eat them all the time if I could afford it.

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96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on February 26, 2012
at 05:48 PM

As always, Mark did an outstanding job of introducing the general concept of modern nutrition: using our knowledge of paleo people and current research to identify the whole foods most likely to provide quality nutrition.

Even though there was no new information for me he was easy/enjoyable to listen to.

I wish he had addressed fermented dairy since he gave the category as much air time as he did; I don't drink milk but I do make yogurt at home and would like to have heard his views on it.

A089b683ee0498f2b21b7edfa300e405

(3895)

on February 26, 2012
at 06:40 PM

here is his view http://www.marksdailyapple.com/yogurt-mania/

24df4e0d0e7ce98963d4641fae1a60e5

on February 26, 2012
at 07:50 PM

Also didn't even mention cheese one way or the other.

96bf58d8c6bd492dc5b8ae46203fe247

(37227)

on February 26, 2012
at 06:49 PM

@Resurgent, thanks, I've read that post before but it's really about "junk" supermarket yogurt. I make heirloom, extra-fat Bulgarian yogurt and the only sweetener, if any, I use is fruit. I was hoping he'd address that sort of traditional fermented foods which were certainly consumed 200+ years ago. Based on the last paragraph in the post you linked, I assume he's neutral to positive.

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96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on February 26, 2012
at 06:48 PM

I love the guy and he did an awesome job as usual of explaining his views. I actually found MDA before I found out about Paleo, so I always have a favored spot for his words.

But, I just hope this series gets into deeper topics with loads more detail, as Mark's could only serve as an introduction to Paleo/Primal. His AHS "Play" speech was far more useful to me, for example.

I might be tempted to buy the series if there are deeper, geekier topics. :) But so far, it's nothing I don't already know from various other sources.

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8949bf87b0e0aefcad10f29975e4fa2b

(8989)

on February 26, 2012
at 06:47 PM

I really enjoyed listening to the podcast, but I was somewhat disappointed that it was just a slide-show and not the real Mark.

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1a98a40ba8ffdc5aa28d1324d01c6c9f

(20378)

on February 27, 2012
at 06:31 AM

Mark did a great job. It is the basics. I liked the interview format. Well produced.

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E57d8e182251b61ccc6ada197c359d7e

on February 26, 2012
at 06:28 AM

It doesn't start for about 2 hrs. Nothing is open yet. If you already confirmed. You should be good to go.

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3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on February 26, 2012
at 04:36 AM

Gotta say their sign up setup is suspect.....

5fb654380d04ac372b750ca3faad2e99

(277)

on February 26, 2012
at 10:17 AM

You should always use disposable addresses when possible. I use spamgourmet.com for mine. I have over 1000 addresses now

41dfb1a4fecb38d24075ff52f13ccb28

on February 26, 2012
at 04:44 AM

I was just thinking that. Did you get a message that said "We have received repeated subscriptions from your computer. To prevent automated signups we verify that it is a person signing up, and not an automated script." too?

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on February 26, 2012
at 05:26 AM

Yeah..! Hope I dont have to change my e-mail again after this....

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