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Paleo really best over a lifetime of 70 or more years?

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created October 13, 2011 at 12:02 AM

I am trying to educate myself and have gradually begun eating a more paleo diet b/c of my grandchild. (I'm 66 yrs old) It makes sense and I never ate a lot of junk before. I'm more of a "moderation in all things" person and will continue to use a splash of cream in my tea and yep, I have a dessert once a month maybe. (Please don't lecture, I know that's not part of the diet)
My first question is about the quantity of meat my grandson and wife eat--cavemen didn't live for 70 years, after all. This is their diet. Breakfast is bacon/sausage/eggs, lunch is leftovers from dinner, dinner is meat and green veggies. No dairy, wheat, sugar, carbs, fruits etc. Almonds and pork rinds for snacks. She is pregnant and they'll do the paleo baby diet too. The diet in general is great but so different from most people's that I think they're going to face real challenges when their children enter school. I was a teacher and believe me, kids trade for what they can't have when their food is different! Maybe b/c so much is taboo on this diet, I think maybe some moderation is called for w/ children. Or do they just not like that stuff if they start out like this? Thoughts and information are really welcome.

Da3d4a6835c0f5256b2ef829b3ba3393

on October 29, 2011
at 03:56 PM

Can you imagine how hard it would have been to live a long life back before modern medicine? I'd have died several times already without it (I think). For example, I got a bad case of bacterial pneumonia a few years back that I doubt I would have survived without antibiotics.

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on October 13, 2011
at 08:28 PM

great I 100% agree

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on October 13, 2011
at 06:49 PM

ok...we'll just put "sugar is good for you"....and leave it at that then.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

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on October 13, 2011
at 05:58 PM

I think your going off the deep end recommending your low carb lifestyle.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on October 13, 2011
at 05:37 PM

maybe quantify or qualify that a bit cliff....I think your going off the deep end here. Tons of fruits and tubers may be "good" for a 23yr old health surfer, but we have no idea about the parents metabolic state except that the mother is pregnant and eating some amount of carbs from sweet potatoes.

5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

(6097)

on October 13, 2011
at 12:55 PM

This is just profoundly smart.

3eca93d2e56dfcd768197dc5a50944f2

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on October 13, 2011
at 07:32 AM

I'm worried that they don't eat fruits at least. They can go easy on tubers if they want to (but still eat some), but fruits offer a lot of important things. I personally eat 1-2 servings of fruits daily at least.

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on October 13, 2011
at 04:17 AM

Sounds unnecessarily low carb. Glycogen repletion is plenty paleo.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on October 13, 2011
at 03:23 AM

sugar is good for you

070cbb401de4827b07fe30cbc17025ae

on October 13, 2011
at 01:55 AM

I think that's a reasonable approach and perhaps the best way to avoid making those other foods into a big deal. Thanks.

070cbb401de4827b07fe30cbc17025ae

on October 13, 2011
at 01:53 AM

Thanks, not sure how I can address that, I'll look around for articles. They don't have fruit b/c of the sugar. She has sweet potatoes maybe once a week, I haven't seen him eat a carb in the last year or so.

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on October 13, 2011
at 12:54 AM

Longevity in the paleolithic was not about the quantity of meat in the diet: http://www.beyondveg.com/nicholson-w/angel-1984/angel-1984-1a.shtml

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E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on October 13, 2011
at 12:48 AM

Paleo isn't low carb. Pregnant woman and children need plenty of tubers and fruits

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on October 13, 2011
at 06:49 PM

ok...we'll just put "sugar is good for you"....and leave it at that then.

3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on October 13, 2011
at 05:37 PM

maybe quantify or qualify that a bit cliff....I think your going off the deep end here. Tons of fruits and tubers may be "good" for a 23yr old health surfer, but we have no idea about the parents metabolic state except that the mother is pregnant and eating some amount of carbs from sweet potatoes.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on October 13, 2011
at 05:58 PM

I think your going off the deep end recommending your low carb lifestyle.

070cbb401de4827b07fe30cbc17025ae

on October 13, 2011
at 01:53 AM

Thanks, not sure how I can address that, I'll look around for articles. They don't have fruit b/c of the sugar. She has sweet potatoes maybe once a week, I haven't seen him eat a carb in the last year or so.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on October 13, 2011
at 03:23 AM

sugar is good for you

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on October 13, 2011
at 08:28 PM

great I 100% agree

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on October 13, 2011
at 04:35 AM

No doubt in my mind ancient people could live to 70 or more, barring any accidents, broken bones or sabre-toothed lions. There are members in my family up north that have lived basically paleo all their lives, hunting & fishing (Native Americans) have never seen a doctor or dentist, are healthy as a horse, never smoked or drank nor normally use electricity. have no use for the moniyaw (white man) lol. One 'grandfather' still hunts at age 86. These people are vibrant and mentally agile not sitting is a nursing home slowly withering away.

Da3d4a6835c0f5256b2ef829b3ba3393

on October 29, 2011
at 03:56 PM

Can you imagine how hard it would have been to live a long life back before modern medicine? I'd have died several times already without it (I think). For example, I got a bad case of bacterial pneumonia a few years back that I doubt I would have survived without antibiotics.

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Da3d4a6835c0f5256b2ef829b3ba3393

on October 13, 2011
at 12:05 AM

This link might be of help to you:

http://www.kurzweilai.net/how-to-achieve-biological-immortality-naturally

"But, interestingly, Rose told me, for people of Eurasian ancestry, he disagrees with the age a paleo diet should be adopted as advised by main proponents of the paleo diet, such as evolutionary nutrition researchers Loren Cordain and S. Boyd Eaton. He said that young people of Eurasian ancestry have actually adapted well to new environments brought on by the agricultural revolution.

???But at later ages,??? he added, ???you will lose that adaptation to a novel environment and you will revert back to a condition to which you are better conditioned to a long ancestral environment.???

He explained that after age 40, the physiology of people of Eurasian ancestry appears to return to a pre-adapted state with age to one that is better off with the same foods our pre-Neolithic ancestors ate: meat, seafood, nuts, fruits and vegetables.

???Don???t eat anything derived from a grain or grass of any type???that includes rice and corn???and don???t eat anything from the udder of a cow if you are over 35 or 40,??? Rose warns. ???If you are under 30 you should probably eat an Andrew Weil-style organic, agricultural diet.???

What this suggests is that the ancestral hunter-gatherer diet is best viewed as a late-life aging therapy. In combination with modern medicine and future breakthroughs of the next 10 to 15 years, that could allow you to join the exclusive club of supercentenarians ??? or beyond."

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3846a3b61bc9051e4baebdef62e58c52

(18635)

on October 13, 2011
at 01:06 AM

My kids are on the 80/20 paleo diet. They go to a babysitter 2x/week who feeds em something that we would not, but we let it slide (mac n cheese or chicken fingers). We tend to take the moderate route of just not feeding them crap or keeping it available in the house....then we eat at home at least 80% of the time. Outside that the other 20% is a free for all.

My kids don't like tubers or even fruit really (my youngest does eat a lot of bananas though), but I continue to put it in front of them. My oldest is 4 and is a hard core carnivore...lol. He can slam down some burgers. Seriously 3/4 - 1lb in a meal is no problem for him (and thats after 1/3lb of sausage at breakfast).

I like just having all primal/paleo foods in the house and letting the grandparents or babysitters spoil a bit.

5ef574d7893bc816ec52e04139e9bc09

(6097)

on October 13, 2011
at 12:55 PM

This is just profoundly smart.

070cbb401de4827b07fe30cbc17025ae

on October 13, 2011
at 01:55 AM

I think that's a reasonable approach and perhaps the best way to avoid making those other foods into a big deal. Thanks.

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