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Paleo fx 2012 Presentations

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created March 15, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Does anyone know if the Paleo fx presentations are going to be online, for free to view like the AHS presentations were? Someone may have already asked this, but I couldn't find it. Thanks!

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

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on March 22, 2012
at 04:49 PM

My issues are not a personal attack on the organizers of the event. I am shocked at AHS giving their stamp of approval which implied that PaleoFx was being put together with the same level of scrutiny with the same attention to honesty and truth and an openness to ALL ideas when if fact that could not be farther from the truth. People had the definite impression that this event was being produced under the same standard as AHS (the PaleoFx website proclaimed this as fact) when in fact it was not the case at all. I have concerns over who is controlling the content of this community now.

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on March 22, 2012
at 04:46 PM

Toad I don't see this as anything similar to Mark's endeavor. Not at all. Nor AHS. The problems I have is that when people are driven primarily by money and profit they make different decisions than they might otherwise. The problem I have is that a bit chunk of power, control and influence in and of this community has been handed over to a couple of entrepreneurs who saw opportunity following the success of AHS. I don't fault them. I fault the system that turned over the keys of this community to them without much thought.

627cf3f5d1ddfb4c2f4c96169420f55f

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on March 22, 2012
at 03:53 PM

Money-Making scheme? I just don't think those are the right words to use at all. Mark Sisson lost money during the 1st Primal Con. AHS put up all their videos for free. The people who put this together can do what they want with it. Of course it would be sweet if it was free but I don't expect it. I'll be happy either way. I'm just going to do my best to attend next year as well as AHS this year.

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

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on March 17, 2012
at 03:19 AM

Thank you Korion. No I did not mean it that way. Nice first post Allison. Welcome. I have nothing against hard working people making money. I am against opportunists of any kind or in any realm that relates to actual life and death. I support people who are contributing to this community with good information, support and guidance. I am against paleo becoming a dog and pony show so that a few can make some money. I'm not saying that's what's happened here. As I said I hope they decide to allow the materials that the presenters worked so hard to produce to be accessed by all who need it.

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

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on March 17, 2012
at 03:03 AM

My understanding is no and in fact they had to cover all their own expenses. But this is just information I have from one speaker. They had to sign over rights to the presentations as I heard it. Again, information from what I think is a reliable source but I can't say for certain.

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

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on March 17, 2012
at 03:02 AM

Thank you Korion. No Shari did not mean it that way. Allison, Why would someone new to this site come in and assume the worst of someone is beyond me really. What I meant was, in fact, just the opposite of your accusations towards me. I had hoped that in keeping with the spirit of generosity that has pervaded our community for so long this new group would actually act in a similar fashion and do what they could to provide the information to a many as possible free of charge.

3c6b4eed18dc57f746755b698426e7c8

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on March 17, 2012
at 02:49 AM

Were the speakers paid at all?

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on March 16, 2012
at 07:37 PM

I doubt they're out any money Joe. I think by all accounts they are doing just fine actually. I have no problem with people monetizing paleo-related information in and of itself. I would certainly feel much better about the claims that this was all about helping people if they put the presentations up so that all can benefit from them especially if the speakers themselves are not getting any money for their work. I still have hope that they do the right thing.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

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on March 16, 2012
at 06:52 PM

I don't think Shari meant it in a negative way though. She just said it was unlikely it would be free.

A2fe5bbd09c7804fd321e9e9a9f9d199

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on March 16, 2012
at 04:58 PM

Money making? At the very least how about recuperating costs for putting something like this together.

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98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

on March 15, 2012
at 04:11 PM

I would be shocked beyond belief if the presentations aren't turned into a money-making scheme. Nothing would make me happier than to be wrong about this but everything I've seen so far as it relates to this production tells me I am not.

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on March 17, 2012
at 03:03 AM

My understanding is no and in fact they had to cover all their own expenses. But this is just information I have from one speaker. They had to sign over rights to the presentations as I heard it. Again, information from what I think is a reliable source but I can't say for certain.

A2fe5bbd09c7804fd321e9e9a9f9d199

(1614)

on March 16, 2012
at 04:58 PM

Money making? At the very least how about recuperating costs for putting something like this together.

3c6b4eed18dc57f746755b698426e7c8

(5152)

on March 17, 2012
at 02:49 AM

Were the speakers paid at all?

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on March 16, 2012
at 07:37 PM

I doubt they're out any money Joe. I think by all accounts they are doing just fine actually. I have no problem with people monetizing paleo-related information in and of itself. I would certainly feel much better about the claims that this was all about helping people if they put the presentations up so that all can benefit from them especially if the speakers themselves are not getting any money for their work. I still have hope that they do the right thing.

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on March 22, 2012
at 04:46 PM

Toad I don't see this as anything similar to Mark's endeavor. Not at all. Nor AHS. The problems I have is that when people are driven primarily by money and profit they make different decisions than they might otherwise. The problem I have is that a bit chunk of power, control and influence in and of this community has been handed over to a couple of entrepreneurs who saw opportunity following the success of AHS. I don't fault them. I fault the system that turned over the keys of this community to them without much thought.

627cf3f5d1ddfb4c2f4c96169420f55f

(1626)

on March 22, 2012
at 03:53 PM

Money-Making scheme? I just don't think those are the right words to use at all. Mark Sisson lost money during the 1st Primal Con. AHS put up all their videos for free. The people who put this together can do what they want with it. Of course it would be sweet if it was free but I don't expect it. I'll be happy either way. I'm just going to do my best to attend next year as well as AHS this year.

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on March 22, 2012
at 04:49 PM

My issues are not a personal attack on the organizers of the event. I am shocked at AHS giving their stamp of approval which implied that PaleoFx was being put together with the same level of scrutiny with the same attention to honesty and truth and an openness to ALL ideas when if fact that could not be farther from the truth. People had the definite impression that this event was being produced under the same standard as AHS (the PaleoFx website proclaimed this as fact) when in fact it was not the case at all. I have concerns over who is controlling the content of this community now.

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8f35744acbc8a30cd6e77015366eac41

on March 16, 2012
at 04:42 PM

I find it very odd that someones response would be "shocked beyond belief if the presentations aren't turned into a money-making scheme." Are you serious? Some of the best Paleo resources HAVE been free- AHS, Paleo Summit, Robb Wolfs Podcasts, Chris Kressers podcasts, etc.

Let these hard working people make money if they want to. They do enough for us.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on March 16, 2012
at 06:52 PM

I don't think Shari meant it in a negative way though. She just said it was unlikely it would be free.

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on March 17, 2012
at 03:02 AM

Thank you Korion. No Shari did not mean it that way. Allison, Why would someone new to this site come in and assume the worst of someone is beyond me really. What I meant was, in fact, just the opposite of your accusations towards me. I had hoped that in keeping with the spirit of generosity that has pervaded our community for so long this new group would actually act in a similar fashion and do what they could to provide the information to a many as possible free of charge.

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

(24286)

on March 17, 2012
at 03:19 AM

Thank you Korion. No I did not mean it that way. Nice first post Allison. Welcome. I have nothing against hard working people making money. I am against opportunists of any kind or in any realm that relates to actual life and death. I support people who are contributing to this community with good information, support and guidance. I am against paleo becoming a dog and pony show so that a few can make some money. I'm not saying that's what's happened here. As I said I hope they decide to allow the materials that the presenters worked so hard to produce to be accessed by all who need it.

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7dc950fc76a046048e683d2a27dced37

on March 15, 2012
at 03:59 PM

Paul Jaminet, who is speaking, speculated on Twitter that they would be for sale because speakers were asked to sign away all rights. But I wonder if it's possible those were really lawyer-ese docs for permission to post after the event.

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