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New to paleo - and eating a piece of pizza killed me

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created December 16, 2012 at 3:08 AM

I hoping some of you with more dietary knowledge than me can help me out! Last week I started with a modified Paleo diet, I avoided grains, dairy, and refined sugars all week (though I did eat fruit, about 2tbsp pb, and some corn chips). After about 6 days of this modified diet, I ate one piece of pizza at our christmas lab meeting yesterday (I'm in graduate school) and my stomach instantly revolted and hasn't been the same since - it STILL hurts almost 48 hours later.

I know people experience this kind of thing after being on Paleo a while, but I had only been on it 6 DAYS when this happened. Is this normal? I did go through carb withdraw for about 3 days (had flu like symptoms and was craving sugar desperately) and was just starting to feel great when I did the stupid thing of eating a piece of pizza! Anyone have a clue about what might be going on?

I plan to continue with the diet, though this experience has me feeling like I ruined my stomach! Just two weeks ago I could eat pizza, ice cream, etc. with impunity with absolutely no stomach upset or ill effects.

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on December 16, 2012
at 06:49 PM

Thanks a lot, that makes a lot of sense. I love your villager analogy, that's going to be a great mental image to help me stick with this :-)

Fef5c54e5f12272c545ec6b2ac1dc6d6

on December 16, 2012
at 03:34 PM

At any rate, I am going to avoid wheat and dairy like the plague after this experience!

Fef5c54e5f12272c545ec6b2ac1dc6d6

on December 16, 2012
at 03:31 PM

I'm wondering if that's the case. I actually think it might be the dairy (or both wheat and dairy). I know I'm sensitive to dairy, because if I drink a glass of milk on any empty stomach I will feel ill. I also have an unusual condition where my hands and feet sweat excessively (called hyperhidrosis, had it since a child), and it's been a LOT better this week since I've been following this diet.

Fef5c54e5f12272c545ec6b2ac1dc6d6

on December 16, 2012
at 03:26 PM

I was avoiding wheat for only 6 days when this happened. I once went gluten-free for 7 days (but I was still eating oats, rice, etc.) and had no ill effects when I started eating wheat again.

Fef5c54e5f12272c545ec6b2ac1dc6d6

on December 16, 2012
at 03:26 PM

Nope, everyone else was fine.

Fef5c54e5f12272c545ec6b2ac1dc6d6

on December 16, 2012
at 03:25 PM

I wouldn't say I "really" guilty, I was kind of curious to see how the pizza would effect me, but I really didn't think I would have this strong of a reaction.

Fef5c54e5f12272c545ec6b2ac1dc6d6

on December 16, 2012
at 04:00 AM

Hmm. I don't get the "moving" sensation, but the "tiny monster clawing through your digestive tract" i can relate to.

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Ed7403e397077dd1acdbf25c7f6e56ce

on December 16, 2012
at 05:42 AM

Bread (including pizza) makes me faaaaarrrrt now... crazy to think that it always did, I just never knew it.

I'm sure the cheese helps none, too.

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on December 16, 2012
at 04:29 PM

I have noticed that people seem to have varying degrees of sensitivity to non-paleo food at different points in the diet. When I first started, any deviation made me feel horribly, horribly sick. Like, calling into work sick. After about six or seven months of "perfect" eating, I had a few minor deviations and was surprised that I handled them quite well - uncomfortable but not miserable. I have many friends and family members who are trying this diet and have discovered the same thing.

I don't know if there is anything to this, but I have often wondered if your poor flattened intestinal villi start to actually protrude a little and regenerate once the constant onslaught of gluten is removed and once they are up a little, any gluten can trigger a larger immune reaction since more is being absorbed. But in the beginning, your body doesn't have a good way of dealing with the immune reaction since it has likely been in a state of chronic inflammation and nutritional deficiencies. Once you meet those nutritional needs by adding vitamins and minerals and removing the "anti-nutrients" then you will be in better shape to handle the occasional non-paleo invader.

To use a dumb analogy, it is like an oppressive army has taken up residence in your castle (the army being all the crap food and the castle being yer flesh and bones). When the villagers are poor, skinny and weak, there isn't much bloodshed since the oppressors have free reign and nobody is rising up against them. When the oppressors leave the castle because there has been a royal decree against gluten, the villagers have an opportunity to arm themselves and grow a little stronger. If the oppressors came back next week, there would be a lot of bloodshed as robust evil soldier met feeble barely-trained villager. But if they came back in a year after the villagers had been doing Crossfit and growing strong, a handful of oppressors would be dominated.

Good luck. Drink water and broth and use this as an "aha" moment about how there are no consequence free food choices.

Fef5c54e5f12272c545ec6b2ac1dc6d6

on December 16, 2012
at 06:49 PM

Thanks a lot, that makes a lot of sense. I love your villager analogy, that's going to be a great mental image to help me stick with this :-)

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on December 16, 2012
at 06:25 AM

The same thing happened to me a few months into the diet and then again when I went hungry to a wedding and overate and felt awful the next day. It seems when you get used to actual food, relapsing in a binge of SAD eating makes you sick.

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on December 16, 2012
at 05:18 AM

This might seem strange, but did you feel really guilty from eating it/cheating on your diet?

That wouldn't be the only reason, but I know that when I cheated in the beginning of starting paleo, I felt really bad for cheating, and it made my stomach problems worse.

Fef5c54e5f12272c545ec6b2ac1dc6d6

on December 16, 2012
at 03:25 PM

I wouldn't say I "really" guilty, I was kind of curious to see how the pizza would effect me, but I really didn't think I would have this strong of a reaction.

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on December 16, 2012
at 05:39 AM

I'd say you are very intolerant of gluten/wheat, and you didn't know it. If others need a month to get to that point and you did it in 6 days, I'd say, avoid wheat ever again.

Fef5c54e5f12272c545ec6b2ac1dc6d6

on December 16, 2012
at 03:31 PM

I'm wondering if that's the case. I actually think it might be the dairy (or both wheat and dairy). I know I'm sensitive to dairy, because if I drink a glass of milk on any empty stomach I will feel ill. I also have an unusual condition where my hands and feet sweat excessively (called hyperhidrosis, had it since a child), and it's been a LOT better this week since I've been following this diet.

Fef5c54e5f12272c545ec6b2ac1dc6d6

on December 16, 2012
at 03:34 PM

At any rate, I am going to avoid wheat and dairy like the plague after this experience!

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on December 16, 2012
at 04:31 AM

I'm new to PaleoHacks, but I've been on what I consider to be a "lenient" Paleo diet(occasionally break the diet to make family occasions like Thanksgiving and Christmas less of a fuss) for years. One thing that might cause your problem is a very real intolerance to wheat or gluten. I've found out that the one dietary transgression that's a big no-no for me is anything with wheat in it. I didn't realize it until I was on the Atkins diet for a while and I kept getting these episodes and attacks of achiness, sickness, and general flu-like symptoms very intensely any time I had stuff with wheat, even small amounts, in it.

Do you still eat things with wheat in them, and how do they make you feel?

Fef5c54e5f12272c545ec6b2ac1dc6d6

on December 16, 2012
at 03:26 PM

I was avoiding wheat for only 6 days when this happened. I once went gluten-free for 7 days (but I was still eating oats, rice, etc.) and had no ill effects when I started eating wheat again.

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on December 16, 2012
at 03:57 AM

maybe the pepperoni was spoiled? did anyone else feel ill?

Fef5c54e5f12272c545ec6b2ac1dc6d6

on December 16, 2012
at 03:26 PM

Nope, everyone else was fine.

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on December 16, 2012
at 03:34 AM

Leaky gut? Does it kind of feel like there's a tiny monster just clawing through your digestive tract as it moves? Happens to me too.

Fef5c54e5f12272c545ec6b2ac1dc6d6

on December 16, 2012
at 04:00 AM

Hmm. I don't get the "moving" sensation, but the "tiny monster clawing through your digestive tract" i can relate to.

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