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Most interesting Paleo statistic?

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Created May 02, 2011 at 10:23 PM

Hey guys -- working on a little project. Was wondering what you think are the most interesting or mind-boggling statistics out there that are relevant to Paleo?

Stuff that makes people say "Wow! Really?"

Hit me with 'em. Please include link to source if possible. Thanks.

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

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on May 03, 2011
at 07:56 PM

true Simibee, but at the heart of that statistic, we can conclude that 69% of people who took the Paleo survey (basically the most active core group of the online Paleo world) switched in the last 2 years and 80% in teh last three years. I think that's astounding... that 80% of the people who took the survey weren't even a part of the Paleo community 3 years ago.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

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on May 03, 2011
at 06:11 PM

@Jae -- great question. Reason was that ages ago I was commenting on some Paleo blog and some dude was using "Patrick" -- so to be able to distinguish replies and comments on the same thread I just used "Patrik". And it stuck.

Fa9f340eddbad9a544184c688fa4dcdd

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on May 03, 2011
at 05:41 PM

Thanks - some very interesting stats here. But I wonder how much the first means in real terms e.g. maybe only newcomers feel the need to come here and seek reassurance over the details. Equally, Paleo is often dismissed by critics as faddy or unsustainable in the long run; so what is the retention rate? I suspect that the sudden popularity of Paleo will burn itself out, as misinformed people attempt "Faileo" diets based on what they read in celebrity gossip magazines, without first doing proper research.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on May 03, 2011
at 05:28 PM

I thought everyone used pseudo-pseudonyms. Your name isn't Jay? Mine is Jamal.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on May 03, 2011
at 05:12 PM

They are thoughts for you to ponder. Do with them what you wish.

8e3782b68e033763485472f414f507a5

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on May 03, 2011
at 04:31 PM

Is Matthew Dr. K's stalker now? I love it. It's good to have purpose.

462ed57189bd2b8ffbe2a975186191f9

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on May 03, 2011
at 03:57 PM

He probably just confused km/h and mi/h. :)

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

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on May 03, 2011
at 03:05 PM

Usain Bolt at 42 mph? yah sure. try mid 20's.

8c2ed9a35f6c4d35a3552a13ddabec8d

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on May 03, 2011
at 03:03 PM

*run under 9.52 seconds - thats for 100m by the way.

77732bf6bf2b8a360f523ef87c3b7523

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on May 03, 2011
at 02:55 PM

Our fearless leader is listed as Patrick on some place on the innerwebs, most notably in his own profile on About.Me. Why the pseudo-pseudonym, Patri(c)k?

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

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on May 03, 2011
at 12:30 PM

I think Dr. K answers are bad for my cortisol levels.

D3ff004d4a0c42b67cc2c49a5ee9c0f3

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on May 03, 2011
at 12:08 PM

Patrik, thanks for validating my inner geek!

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on May 03, 2011
at 05:15 AM

I need to sleep before I think of an answer!

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on May 03, 2011
at 05:12 AM

Here are some more.....requires higher Zn intake, exercise is hormetic but HIIT is pro longevity because of increase GH production. See international journal of obesity 2008 684-691. Sleep is more important to paleo living because of hormonal effects due to cortisol

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on May 03, 2011
at 03:46 AM

Ack, I mean PATRIK.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on May 03, 2011
at 03:39 AM

Patrick- yeah, I think the reason this whole thing resonates so well with paleo is that it's saying "Your doctors shouldn't be so cock-sure--their evidence is most likely wrong or exaggerated. Maybe it's time to learn from history and take the research into your own hands."

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on May 03, 2011
at 03:35 AM

Dr. K-- it's a tough call. Goodman et al responded to Ionnidis, and then Ionnidis responded back (http://www.bepress.com/jhubiostat/paper135). Ionnidis actually used to work at my office a long time ago--the biostats involved in this issue are way over my head, but the misinterpretation does typically end up being pro status-quo or pro-drug.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

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on May 03, 2011
at 03:19 AM

I like it. Good stuff.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

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on May 03, 2011
at 03:18 AM

Nice --- love 42 reference.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

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on May 03, 2011
at 03:18 AM

oooooooh -- that is good one. forgot about ionnidis.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

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on May 03, 2011
at 03:17 AM

oooooooh -- that is good one. forget about ionnidis.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on May 03, 2011
at 12:44 AM

I say it's higher honestly. Most data is cooked or interpreted incorrectly.

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at 11:01 PM

Hahahahahahaha!

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D3ff004d4a0c42b67cc2c49a5ee9c0f3

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on May 02, 2011
at 10:36 PM

In paleo times, 42% of all statistics were just made up. Neolithic man has evolved to the point that only 39% of statistics are made up

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on May 03, 2011
at 03:18 AM

Nice --- love 42 reference.

1fc9c11cf23b2f62ac78979de933ad83

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on May 02, 2011
at 11:01 PM

Hahahahahahaha!

D3ff004d4a0c42b67cc2c49a5ee9c0f3

(5801)

on May 03, 2011
at 12:08 PM

Patrik, thanks for validating my inner geek!

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21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

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on May 02, 2011
at 10:35 PM

"Up to 90 percent of published medical information directly relied on by doctors to determine treatment is misleading, exaggerated, or quite often flat out wrong."

Dr. John Ionnidis, PLoS Med 2005

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on May 03, 2011
at 12:44 AM

I say it's higher honestly. Most data is cooked or interpreted incorrectly.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on May 03, 2011
at 03:39 AM

Patrick- yeah, I think the reason this whole thing resonates so well with paleo is that it's saying "Your doctors shouldn't be so cock-sure--their evidence is most likely wrong or exaggerated. Maybe it's time to learn from history and take the research into your own hands."

77732bf6bf2b8a360f523ef87c3b7523

(6157)

on May 03, 2011
at 02:55 PM

Our fearless leader is listed as Patrick on some place on the innerwebs, most notably in his own profile on About.Me. Why the pseudo-pseudonym, Patri(c)k?

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on May 03, 2011
at 03:17 AM

oooooooh -- that is good one. forget about ionnidis.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on May 03, 2011
at 03:18 AM

oooooooh -- that is good one. forgot about ionnidis.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on May 03, 2011
at 03:46 AM

Ack, I mean PATRIK.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on May 03, 2011
at 06:11 PM

@Jae -- great question. Reason was that ages ago I was commenting on some Paleo blog and some dude was using "Patrick" -- so to be able to distinguish replies and comments on the same thread I just used "Patrik". And it stuck.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on May 03, 2011
at 05:28 PM

I thought everyone used pseudo-pseudonyms. Your name isn't Jay? Mine is Jamal.

21fd060d0796fdb8a4a990441e08eae7

(24543)

on May 03, 2011
at 03:35 AM

Dr. K-- it's a tough call. Goodman et al responded to Ionnidis, and then Ionnidis responded back (http://www.bepress.com/jhubiostat/paper135). Ionnidis actually used to work at my office a long time ago--the biostats involved in this issue are way over my head, but the misinterpretation does typically end up being pro status-quo or pro-drug.

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Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

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on May 03, 2011
at 12:48 AM

What paleo weakness are.

Iodine

Mg

Aerobic exercise plus paleo= high cortisol

Big lack of water soluble vitamins

Food substrates are so bad supplementation is needed

Leptin resistance needs treatment before using IF

The paleo flu is caused by transient reduction of serotonin in small bowel with fuel change

8e3782b68e033763485472f414f507a5

(2433)

on May 03, 2011
at 04:31 PM

Is Matthew Dr. K's stalker now? I love it. It's good to have purpose.

93f44e8673d3ea2294cce085ebc96e13

(10502)

on May 03, 2011
at 03:19 AM

I like it. Good stuff.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on May 03, 2011
at 12:30 PM

I think Dr. K answers are bad for my cortisol levels.

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on May 03, 2011
at 05:12 PM

They are thoughts for you to ponder. Do with them what you wish.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on May 03, 2011
at 05:15 AM

I need to sleep before I think of an answer!

Ed71ab1c75c6a9bd217a599db0a3e117

(25472)

on May 03, 2011
at 05:12 AM

Here are some more.....requires higher Zn intake, exercise is hormetic but HIIT is pro longevity because of increase GH production. See international journal of obesity 2008 684-691. Sleep is more important to paleo living because of hormonal effects due to cortisol

7
64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

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on May 03, 2011
at 12:20 AM

fat doesnt make you fat!

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Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

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on May 03, 2011
at 02:37 PM

From another thread:

???that almost 69% have switched to Paleo in the last 2 years and nearly 80% in the last 3 years. That's a HUGE growth curve

???that a full 25% of Paleo people do not believe that it is sustainable to feed a large scale population.

???56% of people claim to eat less than 50 carbs per day. I did not think that many Paleo eaters were on that low of carbs.

Maybe not surprising, but very interesting at least:

???that blogs are dominating how people both a) are being connected with Paleo and B) like to learn about Paleo once connected.

In fact, using familygrok's survey thread could be a really good resource for you Patrik.

Paleo Community Survey - Which results surprised you the most?

Also, does anyone know the percentage of grass fed beef consumption from the people who are Paleo? I bet we dominate that market. Like the old rule of 80/20 or something. 20% of the people buy 80% of it. I really doubt it's that high but anyway something like that.

Also also in addition to that too as well... I think some of the more suprising statistics could be regarding the following:

  • average bodyfat % of people who have been Paleo for at least 3 months (or whatever)

  • activity level of Paleo eater versus SAD eater

  • reported sicknesses (doctor visit's maybe?) of Paleo vs SAD

  • sex drive P vs S - perhaps coupled with sex frequency

  • confidence factor (subjective of course, but most statistics are anyway)

  • self proclaimed 'happiness in life' factor

  • age progression of Paleo vs SAD eater. Do Paleos appear younger at same age?

  • do we consume the lion's share of the pasture butter supply? (even though technically butter 'isn't Paleo', which is quite the anomaly at this point)

  • do we consume the lion's share of the coconut oil supply?

Sorry for not providing the actual statistics on these. I suppose my comments here could at least help in some way though, via suggestion, which could lead you down the right track.

:)

Fa9f340eddbad9a544184c688fa4dcdd

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on May 03, 2011
at 05:41 PM

Thanks - some very interesting stats here. But I wonder how much the first means in real terms e.g. maybe only newcomers feel the need to come here and seek reassurance over the details. Equally, Paleo is often dismissed by critics as faddy or unsustainable in the long run; so what is the retention rate? I suspect that the sudden popularity of Paleo will burn itself out, as misinformed people attempt "Faileo" diets based on what they read in celebrity gossip magazines, without first doing proper research.

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

(18472)

on May 03, 2011
at 07:56 PM

true Simibee, but at the heart of that statistic, we can conclude that 69% of people who took the Paleo survey (basically the most active core group of the online Paleo world) switched in the last 2 years and 80% in teh last three years. I think that's astounding... that 80% of the people who took the survey weren't even a part of the Paleo community 3 years ago.

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B7ccb7324c1e2119f23f0ca32f7d47e2

on May 03, 2011
at 07:08 AM

Without having to pull out a source (Or perhaps... PaleoHacks itself can be used as a source here!), I would have to say that honestly the most mindboggling thing to me is the fact that this diet makes sense, and there are people out there who prove it. Not to say, of course, that other diets don't technically "work", but in my experience I have seen many friends, co-workers and classmates struggle to find a balance between diet, exercise and everyday life just to reach their goal weights. On the other hand, that isn't to say that it's effortless, but it seems much easier and much more enjoyable when trying to wrap everything together on this diet.

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on May 03, 2011
at 11:58 AM

It would be nice to have the specific stats on how much of the population has no issues with wheat/gluten (probably less than 5%?) I couldn't find it anywhere though. Wikipedia says that celiac "the condition is thought to affect between 1 in 1,750 and 1 in 105 people in the United States" but we know that eliminating the gluten/gliadin/WGA will help almost all people.

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8c2ed9a35f6c4d35a3552a13ddabec8d

on May 03, 2011
at 03:02 PM

Some Paleolithic men could run as fast as 37 miles per hour.

Usain Bolt has ran at 42 miles per hour.

Some people believe that given modern day training facilities and training, Paleolithic man would have easily outdone Bolt.

It has been said that it is impossible to run under 9.52 seconds for a man. Bolt whose best time is 9.58 vows to beat it.

The fact may not be true of course, but its frightening to think just how fast Paleolithic man could have run!

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on May 03, 2011
at 03:03 PM

*run under 9.52 seconds - thats for 100m by the way.

462ed57189bd2b8ffbe2a975186191f9

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on May 03, 2011
at 03:57 PM

He probably just confused km/h and mi/h. :)

Af1d286f0fd5c3949f59b4edf4d892f5

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on May 03, 2011
at 03:05 PM

Usain Bolt at 42 mph? yah sure. try mid 20's.

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