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Minier's disease ....like vertigo

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Created March 16, 2012 at 12:39 AM

My mom suffers from minier's disease. It's a ringing in ear, dizziness ane vertigo like symptoms every so often. It's due to magnesium deficiency I believe. She is also diabetic and definitely not paleo. Any ideas or suggestions out there? I do crossfit and follow paleo closely (not 100%). Would love your thoughts and comments. Thx all!

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on March 16, 2012
at 08:02 PM

It's true; the burn-out phase is not a resolution, but an irreversible damage to the vestibular system. Whatever other effects that may have, the vertigo goes away. Hope you are finding success managing yours.

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on March 16, 2012
at 03:18 PM

My very first attack landed me in the ER, I needed IV antiemetics and fluids. My vertigo is REALLY severe. The good news is that the tinitus & fullness are livable for me, and I can control the vertigo fairly well with diet. So, I wait for it to burn out... :-P

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on March 16, 2012
at 01:29 PM

jj that sounds horrible. Thankfully mine has never gotten that bad but I live in fear of this progressing to that point. I'm sorry you have to go through that :(

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on March 16, 2012
at 01:27 PM

I always think a cheap, easy idea is worth a try. It certainly seems to make some sense that it might help so why not right?

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on March 16, 2012
at 11:45 AM

I will share with my mom. Thanks all. I try to lead by example with health and fitness and diet. Your comments should also be helpful.

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on March 16, 2012
at 07:20 AM

Yeah, she should carry meclizine always. I also carry a prescription antiemetic (zofran) as my attacks can result in vomiting so severe that I can't keep the meclizine down.

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on March 16, 2012
at 03:31 AM

I also have Ménière's disease and the last attack was while I was following paleo, but I'd had a cheat that had lots of salt. I'm sure that's what triggered it for me. By the way, if you 'burn out' it's not really a good thing. It does tend to happen but means that permanent damage has happened to your ears. It's much better to try and reduce the attacks, if you can, then to wait for it to burn out.

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on March 16, 2012
at 02:00 AM

Sorry to hear about your mom. I have it and it's not fun. I have also never heard it linked to magnesium. It's just not well understood at all which makes it all the more frustrating. I eat well and carry meclizine with me at all times (ALL times) and hope for the best. I hope your mom finds some relief.

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at 01:55 AM

Comment to add: After a little digging, apparently low-sodium diets together with natural diuretics (think dandelion or horseradish) are helpful in over a third of sufferers. Chiropractic or Osteopathic manipulation of the cervical spine has also shown some positive results. Eventually the disease should "burn out," although there could be some residual ringing.

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at 01:49 AM

Kristin, my mom has minier's disease as well! I haven't heard anything about Magnesium though... Has magnesium supplementation helped at all?

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at 01:49 AM

Kristin, my mom has minier's disease as well! I haven't heard anything about Magnesium though... Has a magnesium supplementation helped at all?

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at 01:45 AM

Thank you so much

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35ba1f50dad25c85ac1aa2599fe5c5cb

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on March 16, 2012
at 07:17 AM

I have meniere's disease. It sucks. It sucks ass.

Right now, my vertigo attacks are 90% controlled by a very low sodium diet (typically 1000-1200mg a day). I use paleo as a framework for eating low sodium because paleo foods don't taste bland and crappy if you cut the salt by 3/4. But as much as I understand, it's a fluid imbalance in the inner ear, and keeping a steady lower sodium diet to reduce retained fluids is about the best thing you can do diet-wise. Paleo style eating isn't going to do a whole lot on top of that. Most people have some other triggers though, and gluten seems to be one of those triggers for some people, so going gluten free can help. Sadly, even a low sodium diet doesn't affect the other symptoms for me, and my doctor says that I'll probably still end up with residual hearing loss. But as other commenters have mentioned the actual attacks tend to burn out... it's unpredictable whether it will take 5 years or 15 years.

It is not, however, related to diabetes. Those are two separate things.

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on March 16, 2012
at 11:45 AM

I will share with my mom. Thanks all. I try to lead by example with health and fitness and diet. Your comments should also be helpful.

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on March 16, 2012
at 01:41 AM

No one is entirely sure what causes M??ni??re's disease. I have never heard anything about magnesium deficiency. It is thought to be linked to an increase in fluid of the inner ear. Many recommend decreasing sodium intake, if that's the case (there's no solid connection between dietary sodium intake and endolymphatic fluid).

I have also heard that it is beneficial to stay away from aspartame and MSG. I don't know what evidence there is for those suggestions, but they are good ideas in ANY situation. Accupuncturists claim some success with tinnitus (the ringing in the ear), and might be beneficial for M??ni??re's. Other than this, it is not horribly well understood. There are surgical and pharmaceutical approaches that offer short-term relief, but I'm unaware of any permanent treatment. I'm sorry I can't provide more reassuring information. Best of luck; I hope that she can find some relief.

56a1fa600bf9dc6897fa1855c11d107b

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on March 16, 2012
at 01:45 AM

Thank you so much

B76f22ed4373946b3c8990b667562683

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on March 16, 2012
at 01:55 AM

Comment to add: After a little digging, apparently low-sodium diets together with natural diuretics (think dandelion or horseradish) are helpful in over a third of sufferers. Chiropractic or Osteopathic manipulation of the cervical spine has also shown some positive results. Eventually the disease should "burn out," although there could be some residual ringing.

B76f22ed4373946b3c8990b667562683

(783)

on March 16, 2012
at 08:02 PM

It's true; the burn-out phase is not a resolution, but an irreversible damage to the vestibular system. Whatever other effects that may have, the vertigo goes away. Hope you are finding success managing yours.

Dc0b6400ec0a34615510f4e01cedab28

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on March 16, 2012
at 03:31 AM

I also have Ménière's disease and the last attack was while I was following paleo, but I'd had a cheat that had lots of salt. I'm sure that's what triggered it for me. By the way, if you 'burn out' it's not really a good thing. It does tend to happen but means that permanent damage has happened to your ears. It's much better to try and reduce the attacks, if you can, then to wait for it to burn out.

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on March 16, 2012
at 05:23 AM

I'm not sure about M??ni??re's Disease, but for what it's worth, I had a period of fairly debilitating vertigo/dizziness about 10 years ago, and self-treated by adopting neti, or nasal irrigation. My MD had nothing to offer except antidepressants(!) or an MRI, which I could not afford. Every once in awhile it comes back, but neti seems to keep it at bay. Maybe not relevant at all, or maybe worth a try.

98bf2ca7f8778c79cd3f6c962011cfdc

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on March 16, 2012
at 01:27 PM

I always think a cheap, easy idea is worth a try. It certainly seems to make some sense that it might help so why not right?

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