Hey guys, me again :P
Ok, 15, 5'7" 120 as of yesterday (had horrible HORRIBLE binge WEEK on as much sad food as I could put down, with only 2 days exercise)
Now I never want sad food again... lol But I went to the doc yesterday and apparently my liver is inflamed due to my eating disorder. So I guess I need to get serious so I don't...well die as she said. But I dont want sad foods, but I need help. I can't make my own meal plan, I need guidance. I havent had my period in years, and doc said im at the stage where organs start shutting down. my kidneys and liver apparently are going first. apparently my skin is yellow too. i dont have a nutritionist and all docs say it "dont diet". thats not helpful, how am i supposed to know how much/what to eat?
I workout 5 days a week, 20-30 mins intense intervals/hiit cardio, then lift 30-1 + hours heavy
Honestly i'd like to lose the weight i gained from my binge week, 15 pounds in a week is a lot and doc said it wasnt water...
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on March 04, 2013
at 08:08 PM
It's easy: Slab of meat, some veggies, a wheat-free starch and a piece of fruit for dessert. Do that every time you're hungry and you'll be fine. Don't worry about any of the other details.
I'm blown away by how unaffected you seem to be by your impending doom. The "SAD" foods you're talking about will harm your health way less than the starvation and excessive exercise. You would seriously be healthier if you ate a hamburger and french fries for every meal compared to what you've been doing. I'm dead serious.
Most of us are avoiding the standard American diet so it doesn't kill us decades down the line. What you're doing could kill you in a year or two, and for what?
on March 04, 2013
at 02:20 PM
Zombers, the hard answer to what you have posted over the past few weeks is to seek professional help - in person, not internet. If I were your parent, I would seek taking you out of your "sports" HS so you could work on your eating disorder. This might include being placed in an in-patient facility. You clearly need help and are asking for it. Talk to a trusted adult (who might not be your parents). Living is better than dying! To get healthy you will have to give-up some negative "trigger" behaviors. This might include working out!! Please be careful, and do talk to someone face-to-face. I'm sure you will have some other encouraging answers to your post.
on March 04, 2013
at 10:59 PM
As someone with "experience" in this I agree with Travis' meal prescriptions, however I also think (know actually) that MathGirl is right and that you should really seek professional help, inpatient or outpatient. If you are like 99% of the people with eating disorders, the issue will not resolve itself if you go at it alone. You wouldn't be in this predicament if it would.
So, please talk to someone and tell them that you are going to need some more help to get well. Take care and I wish you the best of luck in your recovery. You will be surprised at how much better you will feel when you can put this (mostly) behind you.
on March 04, 2013
at 07:25 PM
If you cannot speak to your parents, talk to a trusted teacher or school counselor, doctor, nurse, clergyman, aunt, uncle, etc. Talk to someone because you are crying out for help and all we can do is encourage you and sit back and hope for the best. You cannot do this on your own. Believe me. You are very young and can reverse any damage to your body, but it will take a team to help you through it.
on March 04, 2013
at 02:14 PM
Call your doc and get him/her to refer you to a nutritionist who deals with eating disorders and liver problems. Also get a referral to a psychiatrist/psychologist who works with eating disorders.
Honestly, the doc should have done that right away.
on March 08, 2013
at 08:22 AM
As everyone on here has noted, you need professional help for your eating disorder. Of course, you're already speaking to doctors who are fully aware of your eating disorder, so this is already given and you're already, obviously, getting professional help of some kind. If you want you can request a nutritionist via your doctor, but they will doubtless also tell you something that you don't want to here (that you need to focus on the eating disorder that is making you ill and not on dieting to lose weight), but they might at least give you some advice about precisely what foods to eat if that is what you want.
To clarify some of the points that have already been made. If you are dying from an eating disorder, your focus has to be on surviving that and not in losing 15lbs in the short term. You can't simultaneously deal with your eating disorder, while inadvisedly trying to lose a lot of weight simultaneously, by definition.
At the risk of drawing some ire, I'm going to address your question about what foods you should eat. To reiterate: this is not the thing to focus on right now. However, it's obvious that you're going to think about what foods you eat/don't eat now and it's obvious that you're going to have to think about it at some point in the future. Also one presumes that part of what is contributing to your eating disorder and questions on here is a fear of unhealthy food/eating the wrong thing, so it's worth addressing: Humans have eaten a very broad variety of foods in different combinations for hundreds of thousands of years while maintaining perfect health. Completely healthy diets have spanned from 90%+ potatoes to 90%+ animal meat and fat and everything in between. Practically any combination of protein, fat, starches vegetables, fruit will be fine. As has been noted before: any combination will definitely be better, in your position, than not eating anything.
It's quite definite that no-one here can advise you of what size portions of the above completely healthy foods you need to eat, since we don't know the details of your physical condition. If you are committed to eating healthily, but want guidance about what precisely to eat (which is to be expected) then the only way you can get this is by speaking to your doctor and explaining clearly that you want guidance on this. Eating healthily should obviously be your goal and the goal the doctors want you to work towards, but just to reiterate again: eating healthily cannot, for you, be at all focused on rapidly losing weight in the short term.
on March 05, 2013
at 12:50 AM
I'm not sure where you live, but you might be able to find a paleo nutritionist or other doc in your area to help you: look at primaldocs.com. I would email one and explain your situation, and ask their advice. They may know of local resources that could be of help, even some that might be free.
on March 04, 2013
at 09:51 PM
@Travis I respect your comment and thinking. But take this very literally: you have no idea.
Edit: Sorry, should have been a reply to Travis' post.
on March 07, 2013
at 08:51 PM
i have been there, in fact i have been you for the last five years! so here, after all this self experimentation, sabotage, binge eating, trying every form of clean eating under the sun not resting and healing my body like it was screaming at me to do, and then finally finally actually getting it, heres my advise:
go on a ketogenic diet, you can calculate your macros heres keto-calculator.ankerl.com, track your food intake at myfitnesspal.com or fitday.com. you need to eat AT OR ABOVE MAINTAINENCE, you will not gain weight, if anything keep track of your measurements, NOT YOUR WEIGHT, you will most likely shrink or gain muscle, but if your liver is sick you really should be resting and doing healing activities, walking, yoga....
eat a whole foods based diet, high quality cuts of meat, plenty of egg yolks(these are ESPECIALLY helpful for your liver lots of choline, inositol and lecithin! your liver will love this), raw milk if you can get it, whole organic olives, avocados, seaweed, bone broths and offal(if you can eat livers, even chicken livers cooked down in a curry you will be helping your liver so much!). you should stay away from nuts and seeds as these are highly irritating to the liver! start taking omega threes and a good multivitamin or two! if you have the $ get a panel to see what, if any, nutritional deficiencies you need to clear up. start drinking a shit ton of fatty bone broth with plenty of marrow and connective tissue, take a probiotic like garden of life brand "primal defense". stay away from fermented foods, even ones that fit into the keto diet. drink down a little bit of raw vinegar with your meals or use it as dressing, tihs will help you liver and gallbladder break down fats. you can restore proper gut flora and also start to heal your intestines this way. its also a great way to clean out your liver, kidneys and blood stream.
use some helpful herbs for your liver, milk thistle seed, dandelion root, oregon grape root...these are powerful and highly recommended. milk thistle seed should be taken as an extra in pill form, the others can be used as tea over longer periods of time. you can take other teas like pepper mint to help them not be so bitter, but your liver loves and craves bitter to clean it out and heal it
ive struggled with binging for years, and destroying my liver with binge drinking as well, starting at the tender age of 12. I am 30 now...i didnt gave up gluten, sugars and anything not organic 5 years ago but still struggled! i didnt give up carbs because i had pretty much gotten down to eating just meat and root veggies quite a while ago. i had to ditch the root veggies, which was hard for me, i am an organic farmer, its what i grow! but the adherence to them was really what was hindering my healing! my digestion is so amazing now, i no longer get rashes, hot flashes/fevers, bloating, irritability and all the other little weird symptoms of systemic candida i had before