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Low Carbs - Coincidence?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 18, 2011 at 12:42 AM

I've been eating Paleo for quite a while and whilst I felt good, I wasn't managing to shift any more weight - which I really need to do. Five days ago I started a really low carb paleo diet - i.e. no nuts or fruit (which I really went to town on before)

I expected to feel terrible; but suprisingly I feel absolutely fantastic. I'm not hungry, I'm not exhaused and strangest of all I feel so happy and positive (I'm always happy and positive - but not this much)

Is this a coincidence?

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

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on May 24, 2011
at 06:13 PM

For me 'nuts and fruit' WERE carbs. I'm still eating too many nuts probably, but the fruit went out with the croissants and the Cheerios. I occasionally have some berries now, or finish off the melon my daughter leaves on her plate, but it's a rare treat these days.

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

(2997)

on May 24, 2011
at 06:11 PM

Same here. Once I understood the relationship between blood sugar and insulin and it's impact on the body, I went pretty much 'zero carb' the next day. That worked where simply trying to cut back on "bad carbs" - or just 'eat less' - never worked for more than a few days. Also learning how the cells could consume fatty acids (Ketosis) just as easily (perhaps more easily) than glucose was a big eye-opener.

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

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on May 24, 2011
at 05:19 PM

I had a similar experience. I've been a total slug for years, but after a few months low-carb transitioning to low-carb paleo, I recently *felt* like exercising. It was weird - I don't have to force myself to do squats or push-ups in the AM, or walk the stairs at work, I just feel like it. For me the shift took a long time - I bet for younger people it'd happen much sooner.

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

(2997)

on May 24, 2011
at 05:03 PM

Exactly. I really knew nothing about diets and had never been on a 'real' diet. Only after going (mostly) zero carbs did I even realize Atkins had some of the same principles - but I never followed up on his ideas because I already had something that worked.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on May 24, 2011
at 03:58 PM

As a long-time zero-carber, I have to say I feel the same way. When I eat a clean, paleo version -- no wine, no processed meat, no dairy -- I lose an extra few pounds, and my energy and mood improve noticeably (even though I already felt fairly good as a "dirty" zero-carber, lol).

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on February 18, 2011
at 09:41 AM

"I don't think I've read or heard much about that tactic so it makes me curious." - it is often said that stress may be a detrimental factor for weight (fat) loss or muscle building, with the "stress" being considered in terms of psychology or over-exercising ("chronic cardio" etc.), but i guess obligatory gluconeogenesis (and ketosis as well) resulting from lack of dietary carbs is also quite stressful for our bodies, so adding some carbs in their most benign form (=starch, see: panu; perfect health diet) would probably be beneficial

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

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on February 18, 2011
at 07:49 AM

I tried several times to just cut sugar and HFCS from my diet, but I couldn't do it until I cut all the other carbohydrate also.

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on February 18, 2011
at 05:19 AM

Ketosis makes me feel good and more energetic. Hard to say if it is all ketosis or some of it was absence of fruit. But in the lowcarb community, where some still eat processed food as long as it is still lowcarb, it's common knowledge that ketosis is typically associated with feeling good and full of energy. So my money is on ketosis as the prime generator. Fat is a very powerful fuel.

Personally, I think it is much easier to segway from paleo higher carb to paleo low carb, that it was to do go straight from SAD to paleo lowcarb. I think once you are eating healthier foods in general, the body tends to become much less sugar dependant and more capable of shifting to fat burning mode. Which I think makes a later shift to lowcarb much more natural.

However I am continuing to experiment with the macronutrient profiles. Lately, I've been cutting back on the carbs and will run that way a few weeks and then I am thinking I will try a bit more starch but no fructose and see how that goes. I am intrigued by someone else's post here recently that the starch only thing works for him for weightloss. I don't think I've read or heard much about that tactic so it makes me curious. Plus I like potatoes so it shouldn't be too unpleasant. (But if, on the other hand, it was an eat tons of Kale every day type plan, than I wouldn't be quite so eager LOL!)

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on February 18, 2011
at 09:41 AM

"I don't think I've read or heard much about that tactic so it makes me curious." - it is often said that stress may be a detrimental factor for weight (fat) loss or muscle building, with the "stress" being considered in terms of psychology or over-exercising ("chronic cardio" etc.), but i guess obligatory gluconeogenesis (and ketosis as well) resulting from lack of dietary carbs is also quite stressful for our bodies, so adding some carbs in their most benign form (=starch, see: panu; perfect health diet) would probably be beneficial

47a42b6be94caf700fce9509e38bb6a4

(9647)

on February 18, 2011
at 07:49 AM

I tried several times to just cut sugar and HFCS from my diet, but I couldn't do it until I cut all the other carbohydrate also.

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

(2997)

on May 24, 2011
at 06:11 PM

Same here. Once I understood the relationship between blood sugar and insulin and it's impact on the body, I went pretty much 'zero carb' the next day. That worked where simply trying to cut back on "bad carbs" - or just 'eat less' - never worked for more than a few days. Also learning how the cells could consume fatty acids (Ketosis) just as easily (perhaps more easily) than glucose was a big eye-opener.

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Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

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on May 24, 2011
at 03:52 PM

I started from the low-carb side, after reading Good Calories Bad Calories, and it was amazing how much of a difference in weight and energy it made. To me paleo is the "to" solution after I figured out what I needed to run "from" (carbs).

It was especially clear after I got a blood glucose tester (I'm very enthusiastic about how useful these are!) and realized I probably was pre-prediabetic at best. So for me eliminating carbs was 90% of the solution and paleo is the icing on the cake.

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

(2997)

on May 24, 2011
at 05:03 PM

Exactly. I really knew nothing about diets and had never been on a 'real' diet. Only after going (mostly) zero carbs did I even realize Atkins had some of the same principles - but I never followed up on his ideas because I already had something that worked.

3aea514b680d01bfd7573d74517946a7

(11996)

on May 24, 2011
at 03:58 PM

As a long-time zero-carber, I have to say I feel the same way. When I eat a clean, paleo version -- no wine, no processed meat, no dairy -- I lose an extra few pounds, and my energy and mood improve noticeably (even though I already felt fairly good as a "dirty" zero-carber, lol).

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1acc4ee9381d9a8d998b59915b3f997e

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on February 18, 2011
at 02:31 AM

I would bet that it's not a coincident at all. I went from a high-carb SAD, with lots of pasta, bread, etc. to less than 20gms of carbs literally overnight...no easing into it or anything...and I began to feel better right away. The thing that impressed me most, besides the rapid weight loss, was how much better my mood and mental functioning became.

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on February 18, 2011
at 02:51 AM

Nuts and fruit make me immediately bloated and generally "blah" even in moderation. I stay away from them. Some people are just sensitive to them. After I cut them out completely, I was happy to find I had no desire to snack between meals anymore.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on February 18, 2011
at 02:15 AM

are you sure that the problem was not in carbs per se but rather in "nuts and fruit" - personally for me those fellows are the surest way to binge and feel awful

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

(2997)

on May 24, 2011
at 06:13 PM

For me 'nuts and fruit' WERE carbs. I'm still eating too many nuts probably, but the fruit went out with the croissants and the Cheerios. I occasionally have some berries now, or finish off the melon my daughter leaves on her plate, but it's a rare treat these days.

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on May 24, 2011
at 04:52 PM

I get an immediate energy boost when going strict low carb which lasts a few weeks. I had so much energy that I started to work out every day instead of every other day! This did fade over time, but in general I have a lot more energy and more even moods/energy on low carb.

Fe29f6658ce67c1ecc4a22e960be7498

(2997)

on May 24, 2011
at 05:19 PM

I had a similar experience. I've been a total slug for years, but after a few months low-carb transitioning to low-carb paleo, I recently *felt* like exercising. It was weird - I don't have to force myself to do squats or push-ups in the AM, or walk the stairs at work, I just feel like it. For me the shift took a long time - I bet for younger people it'd happen much sooner.

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