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Is what you eat influenced by your political beliefs?

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Created August 12, 2011 at 9:12 PM

when I was vegan I noticed that the majority of vegans were very left liberal, marxists and usually atheist, vegans that were conservative/ not atheist were a minority and usually shunned by the vegan majority ( I know this first hand since Im christian and was ridiculed for my beliefs, that sort of animosity played a big factor on why I left veganism). One of the things that baffled me the most was the prevalence of vegetarianism/veganism in atheist communities, im not sure if its a rebellion or actual concern for animal rights, but atheists are adamant proponents of evolution, and veganism is not very compatible with evolution if you look at it in depth.

What I noticed about the paleo people in my community in contrast with the vegans in my community is that there is a huge spectrum of political beliefs and it isnt polarized like it is with the vegans I knew.

Does political beliefs influence what you eat? does it matter? Do paleo people tend to be atheist/agnostic/bhuddist/etc or a support a certain political party?

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on August 13, 2011
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Ha! This is indeed funny, because I am an intractable libertarian and with strong nontheist tendancies and more of a quantum consciousness but I am not very well accepted amongst the neo-paleoists. One of the reasons for this is that I abhor belief-systems but try not to interfere with the anyone else's belief-systems except when they accuse me of having one.

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on August 12, 2011
at 10:38 PM

in california vegans are usually upper class, but alot arent in other states, and usually vegans love to move to california.

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on August 12, 2011
at 10:38 PM

yea some vegans are 7th day adventists where veganism is sort of preferable.

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on August 12, 2011
at 10:35 PM

im libertarian but i was one as a vegan, but i feel more accepted within the paleo community more.

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on August 12, 2011
at 10:27 PM

Thanks im still learning :p

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on August 12, 2011
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at 09:43 PM

GFK - you are brand new to PH, so you get a pass, but this will be closed, possibly deleted, just so you know. :) But, aside from that, welcome.

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on August 12, 2011
at 10:53 PM

As a non-believer, evolution seems to be a very rational and scientific explanation to the organisms and life systems here on earth. Because I believe I am a product of evolution, it's natural to align my eating habits with my ancestors.

I think it would be hard to be paleo (believing in evolution) and be a devout Christian, but I once had a science teacher who was Catholic and believed in evolution- she said "how can we know how long one of God's days was? It could have been thousands or millions of years to us. And humans are a relatively recent species, and are also the last being God created"

I think paleos are interested in eating for health, optimizing their time here on this earth. We ARE concerned with how what we are eating was raised, but because our eating habits are aligned with the idea of evolution (and thus survival of the fittest, or at least best adapted) we recognize that animal life in nature isn't all rainbows and sunshine. (I think vegans or veggies who are thus for the "sake of the animals" tend to have idealized nature) Nature doesn't take pity on the poor, injured baby; it allows some large/smart/fast carnivore to subsist off that poor injured baby. We recognize that eating optimally means eating meat, but we can buy from farms who raise their animals in as natural a setting as possible and feed them a diet THEY evolved to eat. I think most paleos want to eat cows that were raised in open pasutres, eating grass and doing cow stuff that were then quickly and humanely killed. Life is a cycle and death is necessary to sustain life.

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on August 12, 2011
at 10:31 PM

And to throw in a third, and entirely different perspective. IME, there tends to be a strong libertarian and atheist presence in the paleo community possibly due to the extremely rational orientation of many paleo adherents?

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on August 13, 2011
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Ha! This is indeed funny, because I am an intractable libertarian and with strong nontheist tendancies and more of a quantum consciousness but I am not very well accepted amongst the neo-paleoists. One of the reasons for this is that I abhor belief-systems but try not to interfere with the anyone else's belief-systems except when they accuse me of having one.

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on August 12, 2011
at 10:35 PM

im libertarian but i was one as a vegan, but i feel more accepted within the paleo community more.

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on August 12, 2011
at 10:05 PM

I would suggest that this is more an issue of class than belief, per se. There is a reason why many vegans are from the middle-upper classes. However, I do think it's a valid question and contains some interesting insights.

I tend to think the paleo movement, if you can even call it that, is similar to Transcendentalism, in that it was useful from everyone from left-leaning union organizers to right-wing rubber barons. In that sense, it's a lens that might amplify (or, at its worst, distort) your political views, whatever they might be.

If anything might be gained politically from looking at paleolithic people, we will have to turn seriously to concerns such as anything from how we treat the elderly to how we raise our children to how we harvest food in a sustainable way. But this is all armchair philosophy: fun, useful, but not exactly rigorous.

The specific religious issue seems like a can of worms but I'm happy you raised it and curious about how others will respond.

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on August 12, 2011
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in california vegans are usually upper class, but alot arent in other states, and usually vegans love to move to california.

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on August 12, 2011
at 11:02 PM

I disagree that there is a huge spectrum of political beliefs in the paleo community. Most of the voices I've heard have been strongly libertarian. Maybe it's because they're the majority, or maybe they are just more vocal.

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on August 12, 2011
at 10:47 PM

I have met several libertarian vegans. Many vegetarians follow a philosophy related to hinduism, and often are leaning towards pacifism. Other vegetarians have been extremely aggressive, such as Hitler and many of his SS men. So, who knows....

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on August 12, 2011
at 10:34 PM

You are what you eat. Most appropriately: Are your political beliefs influenced by what you eat? Fascist-devil-worshippers gravitate towards warm blood, vegans to cold flabby soy. In the former case agressivity is enhances(meat et.al) in the later decreased: hence a more effeminate politico-philosophical orientation. Keep in mind: the outer is the ineer and what comes from without influences what lies within. MONSTRUM IN ANIMO MONSTRUM IN FRONTE

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on August 12, 2011
at 10:07 PM

I have not shared your experience. Most vegans I know are religious, though they seem to be more interested in "earth religions" than in Christianity. What I eat is more influenced my spiritual beliefs than political beliefs.

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on August 12, 2011
at 10:38 PM

yea some vegans are 7th day adventists where veganism is sort of preferable.

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