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Is real Paleo doable?

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Created August 30, 2012 at 5:41 PM

A friend of mine, an archaeologist, told me about Ghenghis Khan and his diet.

Apparently, while being pregnant, his mother ate only meat (his father had herds of some animals, not sure). They lived in Mongolia, where all the animals are grass-fed since you are not allowed to plow the land or grow anything. This was almost a true Paleo environment.

At a young age Ghenghis lost his father, and the clan did not accept his mother (his wife) and his father's second wife. It meant that the clan took all their herds and left them with nothing. So Ghenghis and his family had to hunt for food.

According to my friend, his mom and his father's second wife were hunting for marmots/groundhogs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarbagan_marmot. Ghenghis and his brothers were shooting taimen through water http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hucho_taimen.

They drank vodka made from milk, and that was the only non-Paleo item on their menu.

We discussed the lack of nutritional deficiencies in their diets since both Omega 3 and fat were present on Ghenghis Khan's menu. We also thought it would be great to quit everything and live in the wild, catching fish and marmots.

Hence my question: do you know anybody who radically changed their lives and went to live god knows where so they could fish and hunt? Somewhere where there is no cellular phones and wi-fi?

Are they happy?

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on August 31, 2012
at 02:43 PM

I am not 100% sure, but my guess it is from the book by Dr. Erenjen Hara-Davan.

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on August 31, 2012
at 01:10 PM

What book/person is all this coming from? Re: Mongolia, 1200 - that's a good point! It's still not "paleo" IMHO, but I understand your point.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on August 31, 2012
at 04:30 AM

1. Most people who have "iron" logic have their brains wired under the influence of testosterone, that also enables them to see a clear purpose/goal and thus a "tunnel vision". It is not a bad thing, it is just different. 2. 1200 Mongolia nutritionally wise was Primal since they only practiced nomadic animal husbandry and growing things was forbidden and plant matter was present in their food in limited amounts.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on August 31, 2012
at 04:23 AM

My friend read a book on Genghis Khan and that was written in that book.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on August 31, 2012
at 01:47 AM

Is pigeon-holing me a good example of this "tunnel vision" you speak of? ;-) Everyone is entitled to their own metric for categorizing their world, but unless one plans on explaining their entire personal ontology to everyone they meet, one might want to try communicating just a wee bit more before name calling and pigeon holing.

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on August 30, 2012
at 11:48 PM

Umm... Source on the "vodka made from milk?"

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on August 30, 2012
at 06:34 PM

My brain is estrogen-based. Estrogen-based people follow a different logical pattern, they are web thinkers. So to me, it is a normal reasoning. For you it is a logical fallacy because you have a "tunnel vision" logic. They are different ways of looking at the world, just accept it.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on August 30, 2012
at 06:21 PM

He was a true Paleo man. He did not have any grains. In Mongolia you are not suppose to farm, it is against traditional beliefs.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on August 30, 2012
at 06:20 PM

No true Scotsman would ask a question about Genghis Khan.

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on August 30, 2012
at 06:20 PM

Kyle, I had the same thought. Unfortunately the move was a little holly-woody -- He died of starvation after four months.

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3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on August 30, 2012
at 06:19 PM

Christopher McCandless tried... I think he only made it 4 months before death by starvation.

Part of the problem is that we (1) Do not pass down the skills necessary to live off the land; (2) No longer have land to live off of.

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on August 30, 2012
at 06:12 PM

First, I believe this question begs a "no true Scotsman" type of logical fallacy reasoning. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman Really, I'm just noting that I am wary of the premise, but not against it.

Second, Genghis Khan - circa 1200s CE Asia? We're talking post Iron Age era here -- pretty far divorced from the Paleolithic.

But to answer the last part, I know a handful of people that have "given up everything" to be in the wilderness in various ways, and for various reasons. However, this was over the course of the last decade, and none were in response to "paleo". One of them is actually an ultra-vegan. Most of them fish and scavenge.

They seem happy when I get to seem them.

I'm in the camp that believes "paleo" should inform our current lifestyles, but we should not necessarily completely model our current lifestyles against those in the paleolithic era. Sad differently, my "into the woods" friends are no more or less paleo then most of us here.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on August 30, 2012
at 06:34 PM

My brain is estrogen-based. Estrogen-based people follow a different logical pattern, they are web thinkers. So to me, it is a normal reasoning. For you it is a logical fallacy because you have a "tunnel vision" logic. They are different ways of looking at the world, just accept it.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on August 31, 2012
at 02:43 PM

I am not 100% sure, but my guess it is from the book by Dr. Erenjen Hara-Davan.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on August 30, 2012
at 06:20 PM

No true Scotsman would ask a question about Genghis Khan.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on August 31, 2012
at 01:47 AM

Is pigeon-holing me a good example of this "tunnel vision" you speak of? ;-) Everyone is entitled to their own metric for categorizing their world, but unless one plans on explaining their entire personal ontology to everyone they meet, one might want to try communicating just a wee bit more before name calling and pigeon holing.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

(15515)

on August 31, 2012
at 04:30 AM

1. Most people who have "iron" logic have their brains wired under the influence of testosterone, that also enables them to see a clear purpose/goal and thus a "tunnel vision". It is not a bad thing, it is just different. 2. 1200 Mongolia nutritionally wise was Primal since they only practiced nomadic animal husbandry and growing things was forbidden and plant matter was present in their food in limited amounts.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on August 31, 2012
at 01:10 PM

What book/person is all this coming from? Re: Mongolia, 1200 - that's a good point! It's still not "paleo" IMHO, but I understand your point.

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on August 30, 2012
at 06:40 PM

I love the idea of living "off the grid". Its quite intriguing and seems very satisfying. I find the prospect more and more attractive. I don't care to debate how paleo it is. It's self sufficiency without the constant barrage of others opinions and marketing overtures polluting your brain. You could really get some sense of independence, self, and a bit of peace.

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on August 30, 2012
at 06:14 PM

I believe they made a movie about a guy who tried that. "Into the Wild" it was called. Dude seemed happy (for the most part).

But the hermit lifestyle is very tough. You couldn't be accurately 'paleo' because the paleolithic fauna/flora are gone now. Genghis wasn't even paleo, in that sense.

3ce6a0d24be025e2f2af534545bdd1d7

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on August 30, 2012
at 06:20 PM

Kyle, I had the same thought. Unfortunately the move was a little holly-woody -- He died of starvation after four months.

F5a0ddffcf9ef5beca864050f090a790

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on August 30, 2012
at 06:21 PM

He was a true Paleo man. He did not have any grains. In Mongolia you are not suppose to farm, it is against traditional beliefs.

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