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Is Quinoa okay on paleo? I wanted to hear your input.

Answered on September 12, 2014
Created April 20, 2013 at 8:59 AM

Title says it all folks. I have been on paleo for the last 30 days and have been loving it so far. I feel healthier than I ever had in my whole life. Is Quinoa okay on paleo?

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on August 14, 2013
at 01:24 PM

Call me a purist and let me 'kid" myself, but, I don't want anything punching holes anywhere in my intestines! It also sounds like you're hinting that Paleo can only REALLY exist if it's re-creation Paleo, which, is not what this is about.

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on August 14, 2013
at 01:20 PM

(cont'd) The bottom line is if you think grains or grain-like items like Quinoa are healthy or benign, you are not considering the full picture.”

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on August 14, 2013
at 01:20 PM

From above "Quinoa is botanically not a grain, but because it has evolved in a similar biological niche, Quinoa has similar properties to grains, including chemical defense systems that irritate the gut. In the case of Quinoa, it contains soap-like molecules called saponins. Unlike gluten, which attaches to a carrier molecule in the intestines, saponins simply punch holes in the membranes of the microvilli cells. Yes, that’s bad. Saponins are so irritating to the immune system that they are used in vaccine research to help the body mount a powerful immune response. (cont'd)

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on June 08, 2013
at 10:47 PM

When I eat wheat, I die a metaphorical but still painful death. Not the same with quinoa.

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on April 24, 2013
at 10:10 AM

Yup - saponins, which are soap like compounds. They don't just irritate the gut, they damage it and cause leaky gut.

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on April 24, 2013
at 10:09 AM

Should that also apply to wheat, and beans as well? What about rye? Or corn? What if they're sprouted? At what point does it no longer remain paleo? The journey down a slippery slope begins with a single slide, and you're guiding them down it.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on April 24, 2013
at 10:07 AM

You could say the same about wheat. Surviving shouldn't be the standard measure of safety.

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on April 22, 2013
at 11:25 PM

Sorry double post...newbie lol

06bf7b92d77f1ac1d8e3dc9d539d8254

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on April 22, 2013
at 02:21 PM

Right, it might be a pseudo-grain.. that was hardly my point. My point is that the popularity of quinoa means that people that indigenous populations can no longer afford to eat it. Some issues transcend nutritional value.

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on April 22, 2013
at 09:22 AM

Oh, good. I was worried that you were a zombie.

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on April 22, 2013
at 07:46 AM

I thought it was a "pseudo grain" - not a grain at all, but a seed? Related to goosegrass and rhubarb. High protein content, and if well washed to get rid of saponins, absolutely fine.

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on April 22, 2013
at 03:50 AM

Me toooooooooo.

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on April 20, 2013
at 11:10 AM

Search in the top right, there's a few posts on Quinoa. Truth.

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10121ac7b6beb99c0fbfbf1522c50adb

on April 20, 2013
at 06:15 PM

I eat it occasionally and haven't died yet.

508a4ebd259022f415326f7a6baec00c

(482)

on April 22, 2013
at 03:50 AM

Me toooooooooo.

10121ac7b6beb99c0fbfbf1522c50adb

(1193)

on April 22, 2013
at 09:22 AM

Oh, good. I was worried that you were a zombie.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on April 24, 2013
at 10:07 AM

You could say the same about wheat. Surviving shouldn't be the standard measure of safety.

10121ac7b6beb99c0fbfbf1522c50adb

(1193)

on June 08, 2013
at 10:47 PM

When I eat wheat, I die a metaphorical but still painful death. Not the same with quinoa.

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606f2967e2ada25eb0bc2ed677ec2845

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on April 22, 2013
at 07:30 PM

I think quinoa has something in it which irritates the gut, similar to gluten, but not as severe. Personally I stick to white rice/sweet potatos for starch, especially post workout

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on April 24, 2013
at 10:10 AM

Yup - saponins, which are soap like compounds. They don't just irritate the gut, they damage it and cause leaky gut.

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06bf7b92d77f1ac1d8e3dc9d539d8254

on April 21, 2013
at 10:31 PM

Maybe.. I mean it is a grain that has been around forever. But I think there are bigger issues than whether or not some Paleo-God deems it okay for us to consume... namely that quinoa has become so damn trendy that the people who grow it can no longer afford to eat it due to international demand.

06bf7b92d77f1ac1d8e3dc9d539d8254

(1649)

on April 22, 2013
at 02:21 PM

Right, it might be a pseudo-grain.. that was hardly my point. My point is that the popularity of quinoa means that people that indigenous populations can no longer afford to eat it. Some issues transcend nutritional value.

4e184df9c1ed38f61febc5d6cf031921

(5005)

on April 22, 2013
at 07:46 AM

I thought it was a "pseudo grain" - not a grain at all, but a seed? Related to goosegrass and rhubarb. High protein content, and if well washed to get rid of saponins, absolutely fine.

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3491e51730101b18724dc57c86601173

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on April 23, 2013
at 12:27 AM

The nice thing is that there are NO "Paleo Police" (although you wouldn't always know it from SOME people's attitudes around here). If you like it and you tolerate it, eat it. Nobody is going to take away your Paleo card, nobody is going to be harmed by your actions.

Some people treat Paleo like a religion with a strict orthodoxy. There's sometimes value in treating it that way for yourself, when your body is harmed by stepping outside the Paleo template. Most people can tolerate the 80/20 approach just fine, though. There is no reason that I can see--not even to preserve the concept of Paleo-ism--for other people to try to enforce "THE RULES" (whatever they are) against anyone else. How many Paleo's eat dairy in one form or another, even though it's "not strictly Paleo"??? And yet, the paleo world is not ending. So eat your quinoa, enjoy, and don't worry.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on April 24, 2013
at 10:09 AM

Should that also apply to wheat, and beans as well? What about rye? Or corn? What if they're sprouted? At what point does it no longer remain paleo? The journey down a slippery slope begins with a single slide, and you're guiding them down it.

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F608030131d21403873cf98972be5756

on April 22, 2013
at 11:19 PM

quote from robb wolf:

"You???ve likely heard the expression, ???If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck?????? Quinoa is botanically not a grain, but because it has evolved in a similar biological niche, Quinoa has similar properties to grains, including chemical defense systems that irritate the gut. In the case of Quinoa, it contains soap-like molecules called saponins. Unlike gluten, which attaches to a carrier molecule in the intestines, saponins simply punch holes in the membranes of the microvilli cells. Yes, that???s bad. Saponins are so irritating to the immune system that they are used in vaccine research to help the body mount a powerful immune response. The bottom line is if you think grains or grain-like items like Quinoa are healthy or benign, you are not considering the full picture.???

I was eating quinoa without affect, but after I read that as opposed to irritating your gut, it punches right through it, I stay away from the stuff just in case.

F608030131d21403873cf98972be5756

on April 22, 2013
at 11:25 PM

Sorry double post...newbie lol

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on August 14, 2013
at 01:37 PM

Paleoness aside quinoa BETTER be "health food" because it certainly tastes like "health food".

I've had it with larger mixed meals and it treated me just fine, although I'm not particularly sensitive to grains (pseudo-grains, whatever). Again my main concern is it's unpalatability. I suppose it may me an acquired taste, but I certainly haven't acquired it.

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0341d29627c2b297df6d844f90f1239d

on August 14, 2013
at 09:54 AM

I think the concept of paleo is great, but so called 'purist' are kidding themselves. We live in a modern world with so many toxins and unusual stresses on our bodies. Trying to limit these is obviously for the best, but it is crazy to be totally obsessive about sticking to purely paleo. After all, if we really wanted to treat our metabolism and bodies 'correctly' we would have to submit them to the all the demands of the paleo life: living in extremes of temperature; spending most of the day on the move; taking hours to forage for a few berries; exposing ourselves to bacteria in order to build our immune systems; experience frequent, genuine fear for our lives and so on. We would also have to limit the foods we eat to a much narrower spectrum based on what grows and lives naturally in our own parts of the world. We may be made from the same basic blueprint, but we are all different. Listen to your own body and mind and consider the demands of your life and you should be able to follow the paleo ideology without stressing over it.

76026e8ef496039d5075440ff731aa0d

(5386)

on August 14, 2013
at 01:24 PM

Call me a purist and let me 'kid" myself, but, I don't want anything punching holes anywhere in my intestines! It also sounds like you're hinting that Paleo can only REALLY exist if it's re-creation Paleo, which, is not what this is about.

76026e8ef496039d5075440ff731aa0d

(5386)

on August 14, 2013
at 01:20 PM

(cont'd) The bottom line is if you think grains or grain-like items like Quinoa are healthy or benign, you are not considering the full picture.”

76026e8ef496039d5075440ff731aa0d

(5386)

on August 14, 2013
at 01:20 PM

From above "Quinoa is botanically not a grain, but because it has evolved in a similar biological niche, Quinoa has similar properties to grains, including chemical defense systems that irritate the gut. In the case of Quinoa, it contains soap-like molecules called saponins. Unlike gluten, which attaches to a carrier molecule in the intestines, saponins simply punch holes in the membranes of the microvilli cells. Yes, that’s bad. Saponins are so irritating to the immune system that they are used in vaccine research to help the body mount a powerful immune response. (cont'd)

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556728451f3406da709d2598233804b7

on July 09, 2013
at 09:20 PM

I had quinoa for the first time after doing paleo for 3 months and it irritated me badly an hour later.

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Ae8dd1529a725d1ce80ecd4ce590d32c

on July 09, 2013
at 08:39 PM

Other than paleo being a way of life that some people take to a 'paleo-orthodox' level, most people cannot do the research involved in distinguishing whether or not a certain food will have a subtle reaction in their bodies. I have been mostly paleo for quite some time now. I can only notice symptoms when I eat overly processed food. Sometimes corn bothers me, sometimes it doesnt. sometimes bread or cheese, sometimes not. So I think there has to be some sort of guidelines from the people that do the research, or from the people that feel negative effects from it because some wont notice. Im sure you all know people that judge you for being on the paleo diet. They claim they have eaten wheat or dairy for decades and dont have a problem. Everyone is different, but its not always about the obvious and immediate results. Sometimes you have to hope the people that know what they are talking about are right. If you arent going to strictly follow the paleo diet, then you arent paleo.

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F608030131d21403873cf98972be5756

on April 22, 2013
at 11:24 PM

quote from robb wolf:

"You’ve likely heard the expression, “If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck…” Quinoa is botanically not a grain, but because it has evolved in a similar biological niche, Quinoa has similar properties to grains, including chemical defense systems that irritate the gut. In the case of Quinoa, it contains soap-like molecules called saponins. Unlike gluten, which attaches to a carrier molecule in the intestines, saponins simply punch holes in the membranes of the microvilli cells. Yes, that’s bad. Saponins are so irritating to the immune system that they are used in vaccine research to help the body mount a powerful immune response. The bottom line is if you think grains or grain-like items like Quinoa are healthy or benign, you are not considering the full picture.”

I was eating quinoa without affect, but after I read that as opposed to irritating your gut, it punches right through it, I stay away from the stuff just in case.

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142d7e06e608cff536ab78e6ca78ce38

on April 22, 2013
at 02:08 AM

I am celiac and I find I react to Qunioa, but everyone is different. Technically I know its not Paelo.

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