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Is kefir connected to diarrhea?

Answered on September 17, 2015
Created May 14, 2014 at 9:27 PM

Hi, I was recommended kefir by an allergist to help my gut recover from a course of acne antibiotics I was on for a long time. I have been taking milk kefir for the last 2 weeks with no problem but yesterday I experienced painful cramps and then horrible horrible diarrhea (about 4 hours after my breakfast kefir smoothie). At first I had no idea what caused it. Today my body was on the mend and I had no episodes of diarrhea since last night. However, I drank kefir and within half an hour the diarrhea returned, although nowehere near as bad as the previous day.

Could kefir have caused my diarrhea? FYI - I am not lactose intolerant.

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on August 18, 2015
at 10:06 PM

Exactly the same thing happened to me, and I've read about myriad others online who've had the same experience. I'm pretty sure I know what causes it, it's an intolerance to the proteins in the milk, which I didn't realise I had. There's both casein and of course the whey protein the kefir makes. Like you I was going really well on kefir for a while, and then bang, stomach pain and terrible diarrhoea. Some research I did confirmed that it's a classic sign of milk protein intolerance, and also in my case confirmed by a couple of realty bad cases of constipation as well, once with kefir and always when I eat a lot of Greek yoghurt (which is very high in milk protein).

Apparently you can re-balance the gut to make it tolerant of these proteins, so that has to be done first before you go back to milk kefir. You can also make kefir from non-dairy milks in the meantime, although for nut milks just need to be aware that nuts can be irritating to people with guts out of balance.

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on May 16, 2014
at 10:14 PM

once a week is good. that's what i do, too. i always leave a coffee filter on top of mine with a rubber band around it. i leave mine in the pantry so my pets can't go near it. honestly, sometimes you just make a bad batch. i did this about a month ago. made yogurt and the next day was crapping my brains out with diarrhea. it was only a 24 hour thing but i threw away the entire batch. i think i must've not fermented all the lactose out because my sister had a jar and was totally fine! how do you feel today?

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on May 15, 2014
at 08:41 PM

Hi, thanks for your answer but could you explain it a bit more simply, I'm not sure I understand it. In terms of being hypersensitive to milk, I had been drinking eating for 2 weeks beforehand with no problems.

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on May 15, 2014
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I clean the mason jar once a week, should I clean it more often? To be honest, I didn't clean it as well as I could have. I also leave my mason jar slightly open to allow air in oppose to sealing it shut. Could bacteria have gotten in this way?

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on September 17, 2015
at 04:37 AM

Oddly, I stopped consuming kefir for the same reason! About a year ago, I purchased Goat Milk Kefir from Whole Foods. In about two days I had very loose stool and diarrhea. 

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on August 18, 2015
at 10:08 PM

Answered this in the comments, so will re-post here too.

Exactly the same thing happened to me, and I've read about myriad others online who've had the same experience. I'm pretty sure I know what causes it, it's an intolerance to the proteins in the milk, which I didn't realise I had. There's both casein and of course the whey protein the kefir makes. Like you I was going really well on kefir for a while, and then bang, stomach pain and terrible diarrhoea. Some research I did confirmed that it's a classic sign of milk protein intolerance, and also in my case confirmed by a couple of realty bad cases of constipation as well, once with kefir and always when I eat a lot of Greek yoghurt (which is very high in milk protein).

Apparently you can re-balance the gut to make it tolerant of these proteins, so that has to be done first before you go back to milk kefir. You can also make kefir from non-dairy milks in the meantime, although for nut milks just need to be aware that nuts can be irritating to people with guts out of balance.

Also things started to go bad with kefir for me after I'd made a couple of really strong batches, with strong separation of curds and whey. Not sure if that was your experience or history too, and it may just have been coincidental for me, the gut reaction may have been on its way to happening anyway.

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on September 14, 2015
at 09:58 PM

Update on my own comment. Some further experiments actually suggested to me it wasn't casein allergy either, I'm now back drinking normal kefir again, with no ill effects. 

 

I'm now pretty sure what happened was that the kefir caused a die-off (Herxheimer) reaction in my gut with some bugs that weren't good for me. What I did for about a week after I had that reaction was eat a lot of rice - both white and brown - in a type of rice fasting diet, but I also included some vegetables and other mild food. I'd read about the ability of rice to act as both an effective treatment for diarrhoea and also as a cleanser of the bowel. That worked wonders, diarrhoea stopped almost straight away and I suspect the rice cleaned out the gut of any toxins caused by the Herxheimer reaction. Now I feel terrific, and can drink kefir again with no problems. 

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on May 16, 2014
at 08:57 PM

@ rockingraquel 1. Yes. 2. It's my first time, only been doing it three weeks. 3. Rest of diet is good, following paleo closely.

I didn't really slowly introduce it to me, I started drinking like half a glass straight away - but I was fine for the first two weeks I did that.

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on May 16, 2014
at 06:40 PM

Are you making your kefir at home?

Is this your first time trying kefir?

What does the rest of your diet look like?

A lot of factor may go in you problem. If this is your first time, it may be a good idea to slowy introduce it into your diet I tbsp a day gradually getting to a cup. (I read that somewhere when doing research)

If your buying grocery store keifr, you're buying crap.

Or maybe your body is finally cleaning some bad stuff out of you! Kefire should case a bowl movement.

In any case I would suggest more research on your part.

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on May 15, 2014
at 06:10 AM

Kefir is created out of milk, so in the event that you are hypersensitive to milk, you ought not drink kefir. In the event that you have a milk hypersensitivity and beverage kefir, you are at danger of a serious hypersensitive response. Loose bowels from milk hypersensitivity is not brought on by the digestive framework, however starts with an invulnerable framework response. The proteins in milk trigger the safe framework to safeguard the body, in light of the fact that the invulnerable framework botches them as hurtful substances. This response causes the body to transform chemicals to secure it.

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on May 15, 2014
at 08:41 PM

Hi, thanks for your answer but could you explain it a bit more simply, I'm not sure I understand it. In terms of being hypersensitive to milk, I had been drinking eating for 2 weeks beforehand with no problems.

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on May 14, 2014
at 10:57 PM

do you think your grains got into contact with another bacteria? did you sterilize all all your equipment? i'm big on washing everything with soap and really hot water when i'm straining my grains and transferring jars.

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on May 15, 2014
at 08:40 PM

I clean the mason jar once a week, should I clean it more often? To be honest, I didn't clean it as well as I could have. I also leave my mason jar slightly open to allow air in oppose to sealing it shut. Could bacteria have gotten in this way?

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