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Is it possible to get all of your carbs from fruit and not be vitamin deficient

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created May 21, 2013 at 6:11 AM

questions in the title, seems like when i eat any sort of leafy green vegetable it tears up my insides and i end up having blood in stool. Fruits don't give me this issue, any suggestions? I've tried bone broth for a while, it heals it up, but as soon as i add leafy greens i get problems. Also i have ms and my GI tract is slow to heal and sometimes refuses to operate, as in digest food.

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on May 22, 2013
at 04:25 PM

Not if you're extremely compromised...it's nothing to most people. My gut means colonoscopies only once every 10 years or so as they do further damage. 'Everyone' is a bit broad as I'm proof there's a major problem if there's a major problem. As I said, 'normal' people have no issues. It's good drugs and a nice nap. It took over a month for me to recover.

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on May 21, 2013
at 06:55 PM

As everyone will tell you, a colonoscopy is nothing. After prepping the night before, which is admittedly unpleasant, you have the procedure and go home (the anesthesia wears off in a couple of hours). It's really a forgettable experience.

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on May 21, 2013
at 06:43 PM

guess i'll have to check it out... i kind of went through the steps to get a colonoscopy but chickened out last minute

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on May 21, 2013
at 06:42 PM

oh ok thanks man

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at 03:48 PM

People are probably not going to see your response to their questions if you add it this way. Paleohacks is set up as a question-and-answer site, not like a standard discussion board with threads. An unfortunate drawback is that if you want people to see and respond to your answer to their question, you'll need to put a comment on each of the answers that asked about the blood.

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on May 21, 2013
at 11:20 AM

There's over a gram and a half of potassium in 12oz of salmon. A banana has ~400mg. It's not that hard to find vitamins/minerals without fruit. (I wouldn't cut them out, but I think it would be worse to cut out vegetables.)

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on May 21, 2013
at 10:48 AM

I worry about the opposite. Since drastically cutting down on fruit and carbs, I eat an abundance of vegetables which don't seem to compare in terms of vitamins/minerals, especially potassium. This is probably due to vegetables being comparatively low carlorie rather than vitamin-density per se.

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on May 21, 2013
at 07:00 AM

I don't think deficiencies would be an issue assuming the rest of your diet is sound, maybe eat some kiwis or blueberries to get enough vitamin K1.

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on May 21, 2013
at 06:24 AM

I would not recommend it. I felt the best when I cut back on fruits, actually, as I have a tendency eat quite a bit. I like the idea of eating a bunch in the summer and laying off in the winter.

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on May 21, 2013
at 11:51 AM

First, as people have mentioned seeing blood when you have a bowel movement is a concern. However, would you describe it as a) blood in stool - it's in there, and stool is redder/darker, b) blood in bowl, or c) blood on the stool?

The first (a) is an immediate concern - go to your doctor and get it checked out immediately.

The second two (b,c) are less life threatening, but warrant a visit to the doctor, too! It could be anything from hemorrhoids to an anal fissure -- horrible, but manageable / treatable.

I used to have a slew of lower GI issues, and I understand your pain. It's been years, I'm healed, and I don't fear leafy green vegetables anymore. However, even when I was avoiding them, 'cause they hurt my insides, I was able to eat non-leafy green vegetables. I was not able to eat all of them (broccoli still bothers me), but I could always down nicely cooked asparagus and articoke - two very fibrous, but easy to digest green veggies if cooked well.

Also, don't forget: there's a ton of non-green veggies out there! Squashes, carrots, parsnips, beets, onions, leeks, garlic and more! Heck, leeks are somewhat green. ;-)

But to specifically answer your question, regarding carbs, as long as you are eating whole foods, wherever you get them from and however many you need should be generally the same. Regarding vitamins, you should be able to mitigate any losses from not eating green vegetables by otherwise maintaining a varied diet. However, if the rest of your diet is solid, I wouldn't worry too much. But again, keep those other veggies in your diet!

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on May 21, 2013
at 11:09 AM

Blood in stool after eating veggies? See a GI specialist. Once you get a proper diagnosis you will be able to understand what your options are.

_Lazza

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on May 21, 2013
at 06:47 AM

Just wondering, are you cooking your veg?

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on May 21, 2013
at 10:23 AM

Just curious, have you had a diagnosis, like chrohn's or colitis? Blood in the stool shouldn't be taken lightly.

I think you should focus on soluble fiber sources (ie yams,squash, carrots, beets) and avoid the insoluble. And yes juicing your greens would be a good way of getting the benefits from them without that insoluble fiber which can irritate the gut.

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on May 21, 2013
at 06:54 AM

Have you tried juicing your veg? I find I can drink a load of juice with no issues, but much veg - especially leafy greens - go straight through... Root, veg, on the other hand, well cooked I cope with just fine.

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on May 21, 2013
at 06:21 PM

I used to have blood in my stool and I had to get all the tests -- they actually thought that I had cancer (proctologist and gastroenterologist decided that I had the worst spastic colon they'd ever seen).

It's really necessary to get checked out, sorry, cos if you have gut issues, it's not as easy as healthy people just going in for checks. May as well warn you.

That said, if what they find is 'just' you have a bad gut, I strongly suggest going crazy-strict paleo (no nuts, no dairy, CERTAINLY no legumes, no citrus and I'm probably forgetting some) for at least 30 days. Oh, well, obviously NO GRAINS. None. None. None. And don't eat out because you'll get cross-contaminated.

This is referred to as the control period of elimination diet. After that you 'challenge' one food at a time. If you react, it will be very evident and you have to cease that food and wait til you're healed again. I did this about 2 years under a doctor's supervision and I also advise you get a doctor on board with this.

The good news is you'll heal. Also, you'll be able to add foods again -- but you'll know which ones you CANNOT eat.

For me? Broccoli and peppers of any kind literally go through undigested, tearing and scraping their way through, painfully and causing bleeding. There are other foods that hurt or cause other issues but if I want to watch blood come out, I can eat broccoli or peppers (cooking doesn't help -- ME).

That last bit is a hint: cooking some veg can help but you have to test so precisely. People who do these daily 'food tests' make me crazy.

I hope you get the medical attention you need (whatever that is). Be aware some docs, even gastros are OLD SCHOOL and will do stupid things like say, 'Eat what you like, we'll medicate it.' My mother has Crohn's and Ulcerative Colitis but still eats whole wheat, peanuts and cheese along with her $1800 a month steroid (and still has symptoms).

She believes what the doctor says whether it works or not -- they're out there. Beware of them and be well.

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on May 21, 2013
at 06:43 PM

guess i'll have to check it out... i kind of went through the steps to get a colonoscopy but chickened out last minute

67871ef2326f29da48f1522827fc0f80

(704)

on May 22, 2013
at 04:25 PM

Not if you're extremely compromised...it's nothing to most people. My gut means colonoscopies only once every 10 years or so as they do further damage. 'Everyone' is a bit broad as I'm proof there's a major problem if there's a major problem. As I said, 'normal' people have no issues. It's good drugs and a nice nap. It took over a month for me to recover.

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(2506)

on May 21, 2013
at 06:55 PM

As everyone will tell you, a colonoscopy is nothing. After prepping the night before, which is admittedly unpleasant, you have the procedure and go home (the anesthesia wears off in a couple of hours). It's really a forgettable experience.

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on May 21, 2013
at 03:26 PM

It's blood in bowl and i boil my veggies thoroughly for about 20 minutes. For some reason yams and potatoes make me feel extremely hot

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on May 21, 2013
at 06:42 PM

oh ok thanks man

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on May 21, 2013
at 03:48 PM

People are probably not going to see your response to their questions if you add it this way. Paleohacks is set up as a question-and-answer site, not like a standard discussion board with threads. An unfortunate drawback is that if you want people to see and respond to your answer to their question, you'll need to put a comment on each of the answers that asked about the blood.

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