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is it ok to do the paleo diet even if i had kidney stones in past?

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Created September 18, 2010 at 2:13 AM

i had the problem of kidney stones about 8 or 9 years ago, and i am new to paleo diet. i really like the diet and idea. but i am worried that too much protein may cause the paleo diet. what advice do you guys have for me?

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on September 18, 2010
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Kevin, you might want to try sitting outside in the sun during lunchtime. It's a good time to get UVB. In the winter, maybe not so much so since you are further north and it's cloudy a lot, which blocks UVB. The best way is to get your blood levels of vit D tested periodically and raise/lower vit supplementation according to results. The vitamin D council is a good resource on vit D issues: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/

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on September 18, 2010
at 04:44 AM

I believe in sun and supplements... sorry doesn't help does it? Emulating an optimal ancient way of living neolithically is challenging... I'm passively paleo... innovatively neolithic...

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on September 18, 2010
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thanks, i live in palo alto california. i dont think i get sufficient sun, do you think getting supplements of vitamin D is a good idea?

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on September 18, 2010
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thanks, what do you think about vitamin d supplements in general? i somewhere in this website that it is not a good idea to get supplements

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on September 18, 2010
at 12:55 PM

Just having had kidney stones doesn't mean that excess protein would be harmful for you. If you have kidney disease, then there is some evidence that lowered protein may slow its progression, but even then, if you study the evidence carefully, it looks like the real culprit is phosphorous, not protein per se.

To avoid kidney stones, make sure to stay well hydrated, and avoid taking non-food calcium supplements. (That latter is just my experience -- I've had kidney stones twice, and both times it was shortly after starting calcium supplements, which I have never otherwise done.)

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on September 18, 2010
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If you are worried, you can do paleo without eating tons of protein. Just eat more fat and less protein. Keep your carb intake moderate and eat only healthy whole foods. If you do approx 50% fat, 25% protein, and 25% carb, your protein intake will not be huge.

And as Grace suggested, make sure your vitamin D acquisition and magnesium intake are plush. I think both of these tend to lack in many diets, including SAD, vegetarian, and paleo. You can get your D from the sun if you go out daily and live in the right part of the world. But magnesium is just not present in large amounts in many foods so it is very easy to be deficient.

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on September 18, 2010
at 04:18 AM

thanks, i live in palo alto california. i dont think i get sufficient sun, do you think getting supplements of vitamin D is a good idea?

62ed65f3596aa2f62fa1d58a0c09f8c3

(20807)

on September 18, 2010
at 04:46 AM

Kevin, you might want to try sitting outside in the sun during lunchtime. It's a good time to get UVB. In the winter, maybe not so much so since you are further north and it's cloudy a lot, which blocks UVB. The best way is to get your blood levels of vit D tested periodically and raise/lower vit supplementation according to results. The vitamin D council is a good resource on vit D issues: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/

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on September 18, 2010
at 03:50 AM

Get your vitamin D 25OHD level checked out because deficiency is a risk factor.

My sister has passed two -- both at the toward the end of 2 pregnancies. PAINFUL she said. With the 2nd kidney stone they diagnosed her with low vitamin D and elevated PTH -- indicating calcium was failing to rebuild bones and going inappropriately somewhere else (soft tissue, stones, etc).

Low mag can predispose to stones as well.

I think paleo provides plenty of minerals like calcium (e.g. bone broths, marrow, etc) but magnesium, zinc and vitamin D are lacking IMHO (unless, for vit D, you are naked all day in the sun haa! )

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

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on September 18, 2010
at 04:44 AM

I believe in sun and supplements... sorry doesn't help does it? Emulating an optimal ancient way of living neolithically is challenging... I'm passively paleo... innovatively neolithic...

37730f18e028cdda4d4386e31d3d30f3

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on September 18, 2010
at 04:17 AM

thanks, what do you think about vitamin d supplements in general? i somewhere in this website that it is not a good idea to get supplements

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on September 19, 2010
at 01:40 PM

I think Ambimorph gave an excellent answer. Hydration is very important. There is no correlation between protein intake and kidney damage. If kidney disease is present then protein moderation may be warranted. I see no problem with taking Vit D supplements and I often take upwards of 10,000IU's especially during cold and flu season when sunlight is less. You have repeatedly asked about taking Vit D supplements, there is no evidence that taking even large doses is problematic. Also note that Vitamin D is actually a fat-soluble prohormone and not a vitamin as such.

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