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Is it ok not to be 100% paleo??

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 12, 2013 at 4:18 AM

Are any of you PH 100% paleo? I feel bad because I ate peanuts but I don't feel any side effects

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on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

I ate to feeling and got fat and diabetic. I need to measure against standards.

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on February 14, 2013
at 06:16 AM

An 86% is sooooo not a B+ ;)

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on February 13, 2013
at 06:41 PM

100% to me means 0 grains, 0 sugar (except in fruit, and only a little of that), 0 dairy (not even butter). Hoping to be able to add dairy back in one day (if the autoimmune issues get under control). Whether or not you are in ketosis is a separate issue. Personally I vary from 50-100 g of carbs a day, so no ketosis here.

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on February 13, 2013
at 05:51 PM

Aren't cashews also a legume?

5e5ff249c9161b8cd96d7eff6043bc3a

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on February 13, 2013
at 05:49 PM

Nice points on the peanuts, great answer.

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on February 13, 2013
at 05:47 PM

Great answer, I'd just say it's imporant not to allow perfect to be the enemy of good. It isn't necessarily, there are regimens I will stick too pursuing perfection, but that isn't always the case. Whatevery you're doing has to be sustainable. Just a thought.

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(10611)

on February 13, 2013
at 05:46 PM

There are paleo police though. They call you out; invoking shame and superior wisdom. Beware of those who post links to their own blogs...once they get you in their tent hang on to your wallet...

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(10611)

on February 13, 2013
at 05:43 PM

You can lose weight easily without being in ketosis, if that's what you mean by paleo.

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(10611)

on February 13, 2013
at 05:40 PM

How do you score your behavior? Do you hunt and gather daily for hours? What you eat isn't everything.

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on February 13, 2013
at 05:34 PM

I self-scored a B+ below. No doubt others use a different grading system which would give me an F. But the scale and blood tests give me a B+ too.

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on February 13, 2013
at 05:31 PM

Saying peanuts aren't paleo is the Atkins talking. Grok used his hands to dig, climb and crack things to eat. The current carb-hate fits him into a neat Paleo paradigm that NEVER existed.

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on February 13, 2013
at 05:27 PM

Avoiding mechanized transportation is 70% of paleo. Everything changes when you move on foot.

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on February 12, 2013
at 10:32 PM

Yes, they do. I feed my kids rice. I personally don't eat it bc I can't control myself, lol. Rice is a major trigger food for me to binge. I just stuff myself with veggies instead.

6864d23c49952605b2a97d6256af804d

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on February 12, 2013
at 09:57 PM

Autoimmune/celiacs do OK with rice... 99% maybe?

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on February 12, 2013
at 02:45 PM

It's definitely a valid alternative, but sunflower seed butter is probably one of the less desirable in terms of FA profile nut/seed butters that are in the paleo realm. In general, nuts (e.g. hazelnuts) or culinary nuts (e.g. almonds, cashews) tend to be slightly better than culinary seeds. All of the above are best consumed as a sometimes-only food. :-)

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on February 12, 2013
at 12:17 PM

Potatoes are absolutely, 100% paleo accepted. Quinoa, not so much. So you're probably at 98.5%. ;-)

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on February 12, 2013
at 04:49 AM

It all depends on how you want to view Paleo. If you want to treat it as a dietary plan then find your prescriptive Paleo guru and follow what they say (did I hear someone say Cordain?). But if you want to use Paleo as a lens for your health choices then read widely and find the path that works best for you.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on February 12, 2013
at 04:35 AM

... oh, I forgot to mention, I'm only 93.45% paleo. ;-)

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Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on February 12, 2013
at 04:34 AM

There are many accepted-as-paleo-but-not-really foods and/or behaviors. Dairy is probably the poster child of this category - absolutely not paleo, and yet I'd wager most people here use butter. People who drink post work out shakes have a 100% non-paleo behavior in a probably otherwise perfectly paleo-by-the-book lifestyle.

So, look: there are no paleo police. No one is going to come knocking on your door if you don't follow the dogmatic rules to a T. You should not feel bad about eating peanuts or peanut butter if that is what you really want. Does that make peanuts suddenly paleo? Nope. Does that kick you out of the paleo club, then? Nope, not that either.

However, maybe do one thing: consider your peanut cravings in light of the other paleo-related stuff you've learned. In the long run, is it better to indulge in peanuts, or would it be better to find another source of culinary nuts (that actually are nuts) to snack on?

So to summarize ... perfect is the enemy of good. Keep learning, keeping improving.

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on February 13, 2013
at 05:46 PM

There are paleo police though. They call you out; invoking shame and superior wisdom. Beware of those who post links to their own blogs...once they get you in their tent hang on to your wallet...

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

(19150)

on February 12, 2013
at 04:35 AM

... oh, I forgot to mention, I'm only 93.45% paleo. ;-)

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on February 13, 2013
at 05:47 PM

Great answer, I'd just say it's imporant not to allow perfect to be the enemy of good. It isn't necessarily, there are regimens I will stick too pursuing perfection, but that isn't always the case. Whatevery you're doing has to be sustainable. Just a thought.

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on February 12, 2013
at 10:12 PM

It's totally fine to not be 100% paleo...if it works for you. If being strict 100% paleo works for you, then do that.

Personally, I'm around 90-100% paleo depending on the day and if you count dairy as paleo. Over the course of the year, it's probably like 95% paleo because I do have treats like sorbet, sushi, and alcohol. However, I try to minimize the damage as much as possible by even choosing "cleaner" sources for my aforementioned "cheats" (no HFCS, mainly vodka and champagne if the occasion calls for it, no vegetable oils). I have tried being 100% paleo, and suffered a decline in performance and and an unwanted decline in weight. I think because when you are 100% paleo and burn a lot of calories as an athlete, it's very easy just to not get enough calories in. So, I've found that eating dairy and employing the 90-10% rule works quite well..for me. Do what works for you.

Oh, and peanuts really aren't all that bad, even if they aren't technically nuts and are actually a legume. Metabolically they are very similar to nuts (high MUFA, some omega 6, low carb, plant based protein. They actually have a few significant benefits over other nuts in that they have high concentrations of the amino acid arginine, which increases vasodilation for healthy blood flow. Also, it contains a specific saturated form of arachidonic acid, which has been shown beneficial to muscle gains. Finally, it contains resveratrol, which is an antioxidant that is beneficial for one's heart (it may have aromatase inhibition properties, anti-estrogen properties, or maybe estrogenic properties, depending on the literature though).

Hope that helps you out. To quote one user (Mscott I think), "There's no point in being paleo just for the sake of being paleo." That's really good advice right there.

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on February 13, 2013
at 05:49 PM

Nice points on the peanuts, great answer.

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on February 13, 2013
at 05:40 PM

How do you score your behavior? Do you hunt and gather daily for hours? What you eat isn't everything.

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on February 12, 2013
at 12:33 PM

I don't think it is possible to be 100% Paleo 100% of the time.

I think most people are either 100% Paleo 80% of the time or 80% Paleo 100% of the time.

As long as you eliminate sugar, processed foods, additives, preservatives and strive for minimally processed whole foods including some raw foods, I think you will be fine.

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on February 12, 2013
at 04:53 AM

All we can ask is to try to do more good than bad. In life, in health, in diet. Everything.

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on February 12, 2013
at 04:39 AM

Becoming Paleo is a step towards a direction of health. Lots of people are not 100% Paleo all the time and that's okay. Many eat somewhat modified Paleo diets, some with rice, some with beans, and they are thriving. Everyone is different, and you have to listen to your body. Lots of people follow the 80/20 rule on here, and if peanuts are your 20%, I wouldn't worry. Eating peanuts sometimes is not something to worry about if you feel no bad side effect IMHO. #1, peanuts are not the worst of foods you could eat outside of the paleo spectrum. #2, You've already taken a large step toward health just by becoming Paleo, and if some peanuts now and then are your "cheat food", I'd pat yourself on the back and call it a day.

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on February 12, 2013
at 11:57 AM

Don't let perfection be the enemy of progress!

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on February 12, 2013
at 05:05 AM

When you figure out what a Paleo lifestyle means to you, then maybe, apply a percentage?

Until then though...Harlem Shake

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFKj8CwE5dI

Truth.

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on February 13, 2013
at 05:24 AM

paleo isnt necessary at all. in fact i view many of its followers as quite dogmatic who need to shut the hell up. the best advice anyone can give you is to avoid heavily processed crap with artificial additives, eat as locally as possible and as organically as possible. everything else is mental masturbation

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on February 13, 2013
at 05:27 PM

Avoiding mechanized transportation is 70% of paleo. Everything changes when you move on foot.

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on February 13, 2013
at 02:08 AM

How are peanuts not paleo? I can see peanut oil or peanut butter not being paleo, but I'm sure there were cavemen who munched on peanuts from time to time. It probably took them 2-3 hours to cultivate and eat more than a handful at a time, so you can't pig out on them, but they do fit the criteria.

Or am I wrong about that? (not expert, just starting)

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on February 13, 2013
at 05:31 PM

Saying peanuts aren't paleo is the Atkins talking. Grok used his hands to dig, climb and crack things to eat. The current carb-hate fits him into a neat Paleo paradigm that NEVER existed.

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on February 12, 2013
at 10:34 PM

Is there even such a thing as 100% paleo? A meat like beef is not technically paleo because cows are a domesticated animal which was not around during the paleolithic, but eating beef is a closer approximation of the type of food we were eating back then than, I dunno, a candy bar. So accept that paleo is a scale, not a yes or no question. You could do better than eating peanuts, but you could do a hell of a lot worse.

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on February 13, 2013
at 05:34 PM

I self-scored a B+ below. No doubt others use a different grading system which would give me an F. But the scale and blood tests give me a B+ too.

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on February 12, 2013
at 09:52 PM

paleo is just a name. eat what makes you feel best. you won't get in trouble by anyone!

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on September 07, 2013
at 01:28 AM

I ate to feeling and got fat and diabetic. I need to measure against standards.

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on February 12, 2013
at 01:23 PM

Paleo for health - 80% is probably fine.

Paleo for weight loss - the closer to 100%, the more effective, but you may need some cheats for the sake of sanity.

Paleo for auto-immune / celiac / sibo - you gotta be 100%.

Not that it's easy, and most people backslide, but you PAY if you're addressing auto-immune. It took me 2 years of on and off backsliding (and learning / practicing how to feed myself) before I was able to go 100%. I have paid in pain so many times now that I am not even tempted. The most unpaleo thing I eat now is a Larabar that I have stashed in my purse for emergencies, and some mixed nuts from costco (roasted in peanut oil - yuck) that are in my car for those times when fast food is the only option.

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on February 12, 2013
at 10:32 PM

Yes, they do. I feed my kids rice. I personally don't eat it bc I can't control myself, lol. Rice is a major trigger food for me to binge. I just stuff myself with veggies instead.

6864d23c49952605b2a97d6256af804d

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on February 12, 2013
at 09:57 PM

Autoimmune/celiacs do OK with rice... 99% maybe?

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(10611)

on February 13, 2013
at 05:43 PM

You can lose weight easily without being in ketosis, if that's what you mean by paleo.

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on February 13, 2013
at 06:41 PM

100% to me means 0 grains, 0 sugar (except in fruit, and only a little of that), 0 dairy (not even butter). Hoping to be able to add dairy back in one day (if the autoimmune issues get under control). Whether or not you are in ketosis is a separate issue. Personally I vary from 50-100 g of carbs a day, so no ketosis here.

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on February 13, 2013
at 05:25 PM

How paleo am I? I break it down according to 70% hunt-and-gather behavior, 20% meat eating, and 10% exclusion of modern processed foods.

So adding up the score, I get 86%, or a B+. I grade myself 90% on the first, 90% on the second, and 50% on the third (mostly because all that meat pushes the other stuff out).

93eea7754e6e94b6085dbabbb48c0bb7

on February 14, 2013
at 06:16 AM

An 86% is sooooo not a B+ ;)

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on February 13, 2013
at 12:06 AM

I wouldn't worry about paleo perfection. Just do the best you can and strive to improve your diet to the best of your abilities. Improving your diet is not an all or nothing deal.

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on February 12, 2013
at 05:46 PM

@greymouser well thats good to know :) the person who first explained paleo to me had said white potatoes are definitely out.

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on February 12, 2013
at 01:28 PM

I agree with others, saying if your're eating paleo all the time, just some peanuts every now and then, that's fine. Don't beat yourself up over it. And if you're ever looking for an alternative: SUNFLOWER SEED BUTTER!!! Tastes exactly like peanut butter. And with some coconut aminos, rubbed all over your chicken, you have your chicken saté (indonesian peanut marinated chicken) So there are always options :)

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on February 12, 2013
at 02:45 PM

It's definitely a valid alternative, but sunflower seed butter is probably one of the less desirable in terms of FA profile nut/seed butters that are in the paleo realm. In general, nuts (e.g. hazelnuts) or culinary nuts (e.g. almonds, cashews) tend to be slightly better than culinary seeds. All of the above are best consumed as a sometimes-only food. :-)

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on February 13, 2013
at 05:51 PM

Aren't cashews also a legume?

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on February 12, 2013
at 05:22 AM

About 97% Paleo here. Its just too restrictive without potatoes and quinoa, which are good for you anyway. And if I find out a food has added salt or sugar, I'm not going to freak out. Then there are protocols like Autoimmune Paleo and FODMAPS which go way too far with cutting out food, I think. I know they are helpful to some, thats why they exist.

Ebb10603524dd22621c1155dd7ddf106

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on February 12, 2013
at 12:17 PM

Potatoes are absolutely, 100% paleo accepted. Quinoa, not so much. So you're probably at 98.5%. ;-)

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