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Is drinking coffee (with butter/no sugar) at night ok for adrenals? Veterinary student in need of un-human energy level!

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created July 12, 2013 at 3:47 AM

So basically, I'm in vet school. Finals are approaching in about 5 weeks. I need more studying than I can handle without getting stressed, being too low on time, or not drinking coffee. There's physically not enough time in a day. I've been drinking 1 cup of coffee around 4pm for the past 2 days, and it helps immensely.

However, after treating celiac/adrenal fatigue with costly supplements and a great diet, I really don't want to mess up my adrenals again. Undergrad and adderall did a number on my adrenals the first time, and my urine-cortisol test has tested normal before school started. Will 1 cup of coffee around 4pm 5 days/week put too much stress on them? Would my samurai chai tea (with the same caffeine as coffee) be more beneficial? I don't get the same effect with green tea.

I'm only in my first semester, so I have 3 years left of this. I will be somewhat stressed out, and I've accepted that. I do yoga and crossfit to manage stress, but I'm really trying to stay healthy with my temperamental body.

150 lb female, 22 y/o.

Thank you!

This makes me concerned: http://www.womentowomen.com/adrenalhealth/caffeine-stress-adrenalfatigue.aspx

Any suggestions for non-caffeinated ways to help? Maybe I should just try drinking caffeine in the morning?

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on August 14, 2013
at 06:36 PM

I didn't realize (when I wrote my first post) that you were still taking adrenal supports. Those will certainly help.

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on August 11, 2013
at 06:03 PM

I'm taking adrecor by neuroscience every morning!

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on August 11, 2013
at 06:00 PM

Right, I guess. I blew my adrenals with too much adderall. I was really asking if 1 cup of coffee a day will cause adrenal distress if I'm still taking adrenal supplements. AKA... Is the caffeine in 1 cup of coffee going to hurt if I don't over do it and still take adrenal supplements?

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on July 15, 2013
at 11:15 AM

BTW, wanted to clarify, racetams, especially noopept can interfere with sleep, it's not just the caffeine. :) Also there have been reports of fats such as MCT/coconut, and even fish oil, keeping people awake too.

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on July 15, 2013
at 11:07 AM

Half life of caffeine is something like 10 hours, so if you *normally* stop drinking caffeine containing beverages before 2pm, you'll be fine - at least that's for most people, some are more sensitive than others. Also avoid grapefruit as it contains a compound that stops your liver from processing caffeine.

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on July 13, 2013
at 04:09 AM

... And I wouldn't mind it if I lost 20 lbs as well.

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on July 13, 2013
at 04:08 AM

I would really like to lose 20 lbs too! Thank you!

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on July 13, 2013
at 04:08 AM

I'm eating about 70% fat, 20% protein and 10% carbs. The carbs are from tubers typically, and veggies. I'm eating a 1500 calorie diet. What are the benefits of a ketogenic diet? I'm kind of confused on the whole concept, though I do feel better with more fat. Thank you!

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on July 12, 2013
at 09:53 PM

Why not go Ketogenic? It will be a good lesson for understanding how to change body chemistry in your future patients. (Yes, my dog was ketogentic/Prey Model Raw and my vet tried to talk me out of it. Eight years later she now calls me for advice!) Butter is great for the brain (Ghee is better and easy for you to make.) and coconut oil is even better. Don't forget that caffeine isn't very good for long term memory. If you want to be a good DVM, find strategies that will HELP your memory, not hinder it.

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on July 12, 2013
at 08:55 PM

Thank you! I don't stay up all night on coffee or anything, and I'm asleep by about 12am regardless of what I try to force my body to do. So 1 cup, in the morning even, is probably ok?

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on July 12, 2013
at 04:26 AM

Changed title to add *for adrenals. I'm not looking for permission :) Just sincere advice as to the effect of caffeine on adrenal fatigue in your experiences!

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3013d1b44fd7f65b4c8412f229d1d00e

on August 10, 2013
at 05:34 AM

I'm missing something: 1. Caffeine is a known adrenal stressor and cortisol trigger; 2. You previously (as did I) blew your adrenals out with legal speed, stress, cortisol, and other factors; and 3. You now want to know whether slamming caffeine daily for (you didn't say how long) is a good idea?

If you do go that route, I suggest you increase your vitamin C intake significantly along with the caffeine, as the adrenals are one of the body's primary users of Vitamin C, and doing so will reduce some of the stress you're causing yourself by sucking down coffee.

7dab2d8c97e44d8d0c298e5c9d5d75bc

(641)

on August 11, 2013
at 06:03 PM

I'm taking adrecor by neuroscience every morning!

7dab2d8c97e44d8d0c298e5c9d5d75bc

(641)

on August 11, 2013
at 06:00 PM

Right, I guess. I blew my adrenals with too much adderall. I was really asking if 1 cup of coffee a day will cause adrenal distress if I'm still taking adrenal supplements. AKA... Is the caffeine in 1 cup of coffee going to hurt if I don't over do it and still take adrenal supplements?

3013d1b44fd7f65b4c8412f229d1d00e

on August 14, 2013
at 06:36 PM

I didn't realize (when I wrote my first post) that you were still taking adrenal supports. Those will certainly help.

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96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

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on July 12, 2013
at 05:13 PM

Probably not a very good idea, if you drink it at night once or twice, it won't have too much of a bad effect, but the problem is if you stay up to cram, and aren't rested when you take your test, you'll do worse on the test.

You also need sleep to process what you learned in order to remember it properly, so this would be a bad idea.

Try it in the morning and use it to study. You might want (or might not want) to try some racetams with your coffee as well. I find they're very effective. Something like a noopept is quite useful for a task like this, but you should take it when you're studying and right before the exams. Careful to avoid it at night as it will interfere with sleep.

7dab2d8c97e44d8d0c298e5c9d5d75bc

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on July 12, 2013
at 08:55 PM

Thank you! I don't stay up all night on coffee or anything, and I'm asleep by about 12am regardless of what I try to force my body to do. So 1 cup, in the morning even, is probably ok?

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on July 15, 2013
at 11:07 AM

Half life of caffeine is something like 10 hours, so if you *normally* stop drinking caffeine containing beverages before 2pm, you'll be fine - at least that's for most people, some are more sensitive than others. Also avoid grapefruit as it contains a compound that stops your liver from processing caffeine.

96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on July 15, 2013
at 11:15 AM

BTW, wanted to clarify, racetams, especially noopept can interfere with sleep, it's not just the caffeine. :) Also there have been reports of fats such as MCT/coconut, and even fish oil, keeping people awake too.

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3013d1b44fd7f65b4c8412f229d1d00e

on August 10, 2013
at 05:33 AM

I'm missing something: 1. Caffeine is a known adrenal stressor and cortisol trigger; 2. You previously (as did I) blew your adrenals out with legal speed, stress, cortisol, and other factors; and 3. You now want to know whether slamming caffeine daily for (you didn't say how long) is a good idea?

If do go that route, I suggest you increase your vitamin C intake significantly along with the caffeine, as the adrenals are one of the body's primary users of Vitamin C, and doing so will reduce some of the stress you're causing yourself but sucking down coffee.

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