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Is crossfit overkill?

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Created December 01, 2011 at 12:11 AM

I guess it depends on the person and the stage they're at, but out of curiousity... your average crossfit workout of the day... are we designed for a workout of that intensity?

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on February 27, 2014
at 04:19 AM

It would depend on your age & how long you continue this regime. I know too many runners & chronic cardio folks who, in middle age, have required hip & knee replacements.

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on December 02, 2011
at 05:16 AM

Haha, yea a even more dangerous one.

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on December 01, 2011
at 04:42 PM

I'm sure our ancestors did not run around or pick up heavy objects for the hell of it. Unless there was a necessity attached to it our ancestors probably lived a stress free life and tried to chill as much as possible.

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on December 01, 2011
at 12:23 PM

I follow the main site WOD sometimes. I right my own WODs to incorporate in what I am not good at sometimes. I really like Crossfit Richmond Virginia's programming. crossfitRVA.com They really know what they are doing. Check them out. The problem with the main site is its volume is programmed for Regional qualifying athletes. 95% of all Crossfitters aren't anywhere near that level. Check out CrossfitRVA.com or search out other gyms that some of the good athletes come from. ValleyCrossfit, San Fransisco Crossfit are a couple other good ones.

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on December 01, 2011
at 12:17 PM

Yeah some gyms are a little ridiculous with the workouts and end up hurting more people than harming. These gyms will over time lose all their members to a better gym with better trainers. Unsafe? Not if done properly. No more dangerous than heavy weight training. I work out in my garage more than anything and its by myself or with my ole lady so not too many people involved. It's not for everyone though. I said earlier I am not the typical Crossfiter that says its the only way. I'm for whatever get one moving regardless of what its called.

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on December 01, 2011
at 06:37 AM

Crossfit is part of an age old tradition in the fitness world. It is the current blip on the screen which combines 1) socialization with 2) novelty. Be patient and this fad will fade and a new one will take its place.

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on December 01, 2011
at 06:12 AM

I would never do Crossfit. It's inherently unsafe, and besides--it seems to involve interacting with these things known as "people."

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on December 01, 2011
at 05:18 AM

Funny, but it sounds like you had a bad experience. As Dunny says, there are well-run boxes that take a sincere interest in their member athletes -- I'm fortunate to be in one of them. My trainers are knowledgeable professionals, and the last thing they want is for anyone to get hurt.

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on December 01, 2011
at 04:52 AM

Adding to the "it depends thing", you could always do the workout of the day at less than 100% capacity. But yes, I do find it hard to believe that our ancestors really did WOD-intensity hunts very often. At the crossfit gym I went to yesterday they recommend doing them 3 days on 1 day rest, which sounds excessive.

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@primallykosher: He was fired due to personality conflicts. http://robbwolf.com/2009/11/24/the-black-box-summit-or-how-i-got-fired-from-the-crossfit-nutrition-certification/

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on December 01, 2011
at 02:45 AM

Thanks for the clarification.

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at 02:29 AM

Thanks a lot for the detailed answer, so say you have have almost all those movements down pretty well on your own and have access to what you would need, would a good workout regimen be to just follow the WOD on the main site?

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on December 01, 2011
at 01:35 AM

Why did Rob Wolff leave Crossfit?

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on December 01, 2011
at 12:55 AM

*Robb Wolf* Sorry about the typo

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at 12:54 AM

The best thing about CF is paleo and they forced it out 2 years ago. period. Ask Robb Wold and he might help you. The misgivings that you have for CF are real. Glassman is a a guy who uses big words and who is ultimately in it for cash. You can find another gym. CF-style workouts are not copyrighted.

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on December 01, 2011
at 12:35 AM

If we slightly rephrase the question to "are we designed for a workout of that intensity everyday?" The answer would be an emphatic "no". I think that Crossfit can be done right, with built in recovery days, skill days, and high-intensity metcon workouts only 1-2x per week, but this is not the case in every gym. There are definitely Crossfit boxes out there that are running their clients into the ground and setting them up for serious injury.

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on December 01, 2011
at 12:37 AM

If we slightly rephrase the question to "are we designed for a workout of that intensity everyday?" (assuming that the workout in question is an all-out metabolic conditioning WOD), the answer would be an emphatic "no". I think that Crossfit can be done right, with built in recovery days, skill days, and high-intensity met-con workouts only 1-2x per week, but this is not the case in every gym. There are definitely Crossfit boxes out there that are running their clients into the ground and setting them up for serious injury. So, the answer to "is Crossfit overkill" would be "it depends".

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on December 01, 2011
at 04:42 PM

I'm sure our ancestors did not run around or pick up heavy objects for the hell of it. Unless there was a necessity attached to it our ancestors probably lived a stress free life and tried to chill as much as possible.

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on December 01, 2011
at 02:45 AM

Thanks for the clarification.

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on December 01, 2011
at 04:52 AM

Adding to the "it depends thing", you could always do the workout of the day at less than 100% capacity. But yes, I do find it hard to believe that our ancestors really did WOD-intensity hunts very often. At the crossfit gym I went to yesterday they recommend doing them 3 days on 1 day rest, which sounds excessive.

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on December 01, 2011
at 04:29 PM

The human body is capable of doing some amazing things and can be conditioned to adapt to almost anything. Just think about the crazy workout regiment of an athlete like Michael Phelps who has to consume 10k calories a day just maintain optimal levels during training.

That being said, yes you could do CrossFit 6 days a week and do long/short metabolic conditioning and you would probably walk around very strong and fit and on the surface it would seem that you are healthy.

What I find more interesting is, "Does CrossFit or metabolic conditioning type workouts have a positive effect on longevity?" I would have to say, "No!"

That type of intense strain on your joints and body, in the long run, is probably going to decrease your life expectancy and not be a positive factor in living a long, and healthy life. I think if you would rather live a shorter, fitter life than go ahead beat yourself up in the gym

Just think about the grueling workouts and games that American pro football players go through; it's a proven statistic that their average life expectancy is around 55 years of age. Yes, Terrell Owens is an amazing specimen of athleticism and overall strength but is he going to out live somebody who is fairly active, lives a stress-free life and eats clean; probably not.

Then again, sitting in front of the computer, slamming Dr. Peppers, eating pizza and playing World of Warcraft all day is probably not great for you either.

Bottom line: life is about balance; don't beat yourself up, listen to your body, and try and live a low-stress life.

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B5cc60ce970d2efed2de1f01c3b33e86

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on December 01, 2011
at 02:01 AM

I see a lot of Crossfit bashing on here so I will put in my two cents. The main site alternates its WODs 3 on 1 off in a pattern as follows. Day 1: Gymnastics Day 2: Gymnastics/MetCon Day 3: Gym/MetCon/Strength Day 4: Off Day 5: MetCon Day 6: MetCon/Strength Day 7: MetCon/Strength/GYmnastics Day 8: Off Day 9: Strength Day 10: Strength/Gymnastics Day 11: Strength/Gymnastics/MEtcon Day 12: Off

Definitions: Gymnastics... Push Up, Pull Up, Air Squat, Sit Up. Muscle Up etc... Strength... Power lifts and Olympic Lifts MetCon (Cardio).... Running, Rowing, Double-Unders,

I am a CF trainer between gyms right now. Every gym is different and some gym owners don't know thier ass from a hole in the wall. Some program long chipper-style workouts because it gets the clients to feel like they are doing something. I have programmed days of just a strenth WOD and people are like "That's all?" The average housewife wants to sweat and move for the 45min to an hour. Thats why HIIT is so popular. Working on GOATs like Hand Stand Push Ups people don't want to do. CF is a great Strength and COnditioning program is it the best for a sport specific athlete .....No! Hence CF Football, and CF Endurance. The best for the "average" person, I truly belived if programmed correctly yes. But only is programmed correctly and with people that are willing to get out of thier comfort zone and do things they aren't good at sometimes. I am a firm believer in Crossfit but I am not the typical Crossfitter that thinks its the "Best and Only Way" It has flaws and I am not afraid to admit that, but its still new. They will work themselves out. As for Crossfit forcing out Paleo. That is not true. They preach PaleoZone. Robb Wolf as the Head of the no longer given Nutrition Certification said at a seminar that Zone is stupid and Dave Castro blew up on him so Robb said "Go EFF yourself" and Dave the Douchebag fired him. Worst thing CFHQ has ever done. I saw video of the day it happened. They still preach Paleo but its Zoned.

To completely answer your question: I do think we are designed for that much intensity. An early human might very much had to chase and kill with little to no tools or weapons, drag, lift, and clean all in a very short time to keep other predators from stealing thier kill. This was done daily sometimes with failure.

56e59609362978a9dcb390fdeb45427f

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on December 01, 2011
at 02:29 AM

Thanks a lot for the detailed answer, so say you have have almost all those movements down pretty well on your own and have access to what you would need, would a good workout regimen be to just follow the WOD on the main site?

B5cc60ce970d2efed2de1f01c3b33e86

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on December 01, 2011
at 12:23 PM

I follow the main site WOD sometimes. I right my own WODs to incorporate in what I am not good at sometimes. I really like Crossfit Richmond Virginia's programming. crossfitRVA.com They really know what they are doing. Check them out. The problem with the main site is its volume is programmed for Regional qualifying athletes. 95% of all Crossfitters aren't anywhere near that level. Check out CrossfitRVA.com or search out other gyms that some of the good athletes come from. ValleyCrossfit, San Fransisco Crossfit are a couple other good ones.

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25b139cc1954456d9ea469e40f984cd3

on December 01, 2011
at 04:57 AM

No, it's very well designed for inducing injuries, though I could suggest some additions--punching a brick wall as hard as you can (10 times in a row), Jumping out of tree, climbing back up it and jumping out again (5 times), jumping rope with a heavy chain (for 20 mins), etc.

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on December 01, 2011
at 05:18 AM

Funny, but it sounds like you had a bad experience. As Dunny says, there are well-run boxes that take a sincere interest in their member athletes -- I'm fortunate to be in one of them. My trainers are knowledgeable professionals, and the last thing they want is for anyone to get hurt.

25b139cc1954456d9ea469e40f984cd3

on December 01, 2011
at 06:12 AM

I would never do Crossfit. It's inherently unsafe, and besides--it seems to involve interacting with these things known as "people."

B5cc60ce970d2efed2de1f01c3b33e86

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on December 01, 2011
at 12:17 PM

Yeah some gyms are a little ridiculous with the workouts and end up hurting more people than harming. These gyms will over time lose all their members to a better gym with better trainers. Unsafe? Not if done properly. No more dangerous than heavy weight training. I work out in my garage more than anything and its by myself or with my ole lady so not too many people involved. It's not for everyone though. I said earlier I am not the typical Crossfiter that says its the only way. I'm for whatever get one moving regardless of what its called.

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on December 01, 2011
at 12:42 AM

There is a line. And it depends on the CF gym. They are EXTREMELY not all the same. Some are wonderful places and some are dumps. There is no control over an affiliate. This is my major concern with CF, and it also allowed its(unchecked) growth. So you might get PT level help ant one and douchebag level help at another. In my personal and professional experience most people need alot more strength before they do metcons or they burn you up.

So, to answer your question, Never go by the main site. Ever. Crossfit has created a culture of good people who might train you. So find a good one.

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on December 01, 2011
at 12:55 AM

*Robb Wolf* Sorry about the typo

C4f1a0c70c4e0dea507c2e346c036bbd

on December 01, 2011
at 01:35 AM

Why did Rob Wolff leave Crossfit?

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on December 01, 2011
at 12:54 AM

The best thing about CF is paleo and they forced it out 2 years ago. period. Ask Robb Wold and he might help you. The misgivings that you have for CF are real. Glassman is a a guy who uses big words and who is ultimately in it for cash. You can find another gym. CF-style workouts are not copyrighted.

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on December 01, 2011
at 04:47 AM

@primallykosher: He was fired due to personality conflicts. http://robbwolf.com/2009/11/24/the-black-box-summit-or-how-i-got-fired-from-the-crossfit-nutrition-certification/

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on December 01, 2011
at 04:00 PM

I have been Crossfitting in addition to running,dancing professionally, etc for years. I personally believe (based on my own methodology) that Crossfit should be SOMETHING you do, not the ONLY thing you do. We were born to run, walk, climb, lift heavy stuff, play, swim, etc. By including a plethora of activities into your daily life, you will get the best results.

I am a competition ballroom dancer, Crossfitter, I do yoga, and run. I feel I am well rounded and that is what works for me. Some people can focus too much on aesthetics, performance, or get tricked into thinking that more is always better. Listen to your body.It will tell you when it needs you to up the intensity, slow down, stretch, relax, etc.

Crossfit provides some excellent core stabilization and high intensity work, which our Paleolithic ancestors would have found to be fundamental in their daily lives. But getting your "Fran" time to under 2 minutes or being able to row 5K in 1:20, etc. can be more personal milestones. I think every person is different and if it makes you feel great and you are not constantly inflamed or getting injured, then do it! Anything is better than sitting on the couch mindlessly eating bon bons all day.

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on December 01, 2011
at 12:20 PM

I do CF 3 days on 1 day off, eat a strict Paleo diet, get enough sleep, and feel AMAZING 99% of the time. I have so much energy from my diet that I love working out and feel great after the high intensity stuff. So yes, I believe our bodies were designed to be fit, healthy and strong - which in my opinion is the epitome of Crossfit.

Its up to the person - If you enjoy it and feel like it, do it, if not, dont!

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on February 27, 2014
at 04:19 AM

It would depend on your age & how long you continue this regime. I know too many runners & chronic cardio folks who, in middle age, have required hip & knee replacements.

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on December 01, 2011
at 05:18 AM

I don't do crossfit, but I do weights 3x a week and a lot of slow cardio and after 2-3 days of that I need to just lounge around, eat a little extra and just be a sloth. I don't think its healthy to push our bodies so much- rest is important too. Paleo man wasn't running around killing buffalos or sabertooths or whatever every single day. He chilled too.

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on February 26, 2014
at 10:08 PM

I only go to CrossFit once a week (the free class), but yes, it is extremely intense. I was talking with a classmate who was in the military about CrossFit and he said "why would I want to pay someone to do what we do in the military every day?" and on my first day of Crossfit I felt dizzy. Maybe it would be overkill if you were to do it seven days a week, but i think as long as you listen to your body during crossfit you won't over-overdo yourself

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on February 26, 2014
at 06:09 AM

I think we are totally capable. And if you can't do it now than you can train to that point. Back in the stoneage we worked for everything, lived on our feet. Now everyone just sits around, drives everywhere, and buys food at the grocery store. Our bodies can do it, you just have to push yourself. When I first started crossfit it would take me a solid two days to recover from a workout and the two days weren't just me being slightly sore, I was crazy sore. My muscles weren't used to it. But I learned to roll out after a WOD which helps release the lactic acid. Also I don't have a lot of protein in my diet so I got protein powder and if I drink it right after a WOD than it helps my muscles repair so much faster and now I can go everyday and my body recovers so much faster. We also don't work out the same muscle everyday. We switch up the focus to avoid sloppy form due to soreness which will lead to injury. So I would have never thought my body was capable but I surprise myself and somedays I show up and see the WOD and think "There is no way" but than again, I push myself and make myself proud. I love crossfit.

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on December 01, 2011
at 08:00 AM

I think the subquestion "are we designed to work out that way" is meaningless, because we are (almost all) aspiring to look and perform in ways we are not designed to look and perform...

that being said, I personally feel that there are better ways to achieve the physique and performance (if that is not crossfit performance) of your dreams than "crossfitting"

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on December 01, 2011
at 06:17 AM

Why do crossfit, when you can get benefits without injury?

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on December 01, 2011
at 06:37 AM

Crossfit is part of an age old tradition in the fitness world. It is the current blip on the screen which combines 1) socialization with 2) novelty. Be patient and this fad will fade and a new one will take its place.

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on December 02, 2011
at 05:16 AM

Haha, yea a even more dangerous one.

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