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IBS, Paleo, Stress, Panic

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 18, 2013 at 9:56 AM

Hey guys,

I've started feeling more fit when going Paleo (1month and 2 weeks ago), my stool isn't perfect yet and i think that i'm still exhaggerating when it comes to fruit / driet fruit and nuts; hence my stool being a bit much and loose.

For the past week i've had some symptoms of bloating again; which are now fading... honestly i'm happy because 80% of my IBS problems are gone.

The problem is that i've lost some weight, i've been having headaches for the past week and i'm having these symptoms of panic where i start noticing my heartbeat in my neck when lying down watching tv and it makes me freak out, stress and think of all kinds of stressors i'm having. I'm currently unemployed, i need to save some cash for a corrective jaw surgery, is my IBS really gonna heal, etc.

I've started dealing with my IBS in january, honestly, things have really improved. But i want to feel better in general, feel more comfortable, be less worry and less stressed out. Feel happy and great all the time, as a sugar addict i used to laugh and smile all the time; now i'm more of a droopy person :-/

My therapist has advised me to take regular breaks from any type of work and to reflect on what i was doing and how it felt; a type of meditation technique. I've been doing these but i can't really control these panicky feelings, it never escalates but it's not really fun either and it makes me feel like an abnormal individual...

Is there any type of food or drink that i can intake to reduce these symptoms? Does someone recognise these?

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on August 12, 2013
at 04:58 PM

Thank you. I figured paleohacks needed a voice of reason to suggest valid options to help people suffering with very real, often undiagnosed and improperly self-treated diseases.

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on August 12, 2013
at 04:56 PM

My, what insightful answers you're flooding the forum with!

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on April 18, 2013
at 06:00 PM

Thanks for the advice; i don't think i lack magnesium; i'm eating quite a lot of nuts, meat, fish, eggs & vegetables; i should be getting all vitamins needed no? I'll be starting with probiotics soon; will check kombucha & water kefir out! Tanx :-)

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on April 18, 2013
at 11:14 AM

Xavier: Paleo doesn't eradicate IBS/SIBO because while a 'natural/paleo' diet is a good way of preventing these problems, curing GI-problems (like the dysbiosis you're having) requires extra steps, supplementation and possibly medicine. Read this post-series: http://syontix.com/small-intestinal-bacterial-overgrowth-part-one-what-is-it/

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on April 18, 2013
at 10:42 AM

well i came across this page; seems helpful, aparantly SCD does have a big chance of healing SIBO? What is the main difference between SCD and Paleo?

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on April 18, 2013
at 10:41 AM

well i came across this page; seems helpful, aparantly SCD does have a big chance of healing SIBO? What is the main difference between SCD and SIBO?

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on April 18, 2013
at 10:31 AM

Hmm; so how would you go and heal SIBO? I can't even seem to find the dutch translation of the term; i've read about anti-biotics here and there :-/ Ughhh; i'm kinda sick of being 'sick' :)

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on April 18, 2013
at 10:27 AM

Oops, sorry. 84% of IBS patients have SIBO. No, SIBO won't heal just by following a diet, no matter how strict it is, especially if is caused by a methane-producing bacteria.

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on April 18, 2013
at 10:13 AM

I remember you saying the exact same thing a while back when i talked about how my stool was very watery. It's going better now but not ideal; anyway; this "SIBO" won't it just heal by eating Paleo? I don't think there's doctors dealing with SIBO here in Belgium :-/

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on April 18, 2013
at 10:02 AM

Could be SIBO... Drop nuts and dried fruit. Actually, you can drop all fruit.

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on May 16, 2013
at 02:54 PM

I have IBS too, which paleo helped quite a bit but I never really enjoyed the full benefits everyone else was claiming - abundant energy, clear mind, smooth bowel movements, etc. Anyway, from my own readings it appears that some of the very common food items on paleo, like onions, garlic, avocadoes, nuts in large amounts (esp nut butters) are known triggers for IBS sufferers. They probably don't affect people with healthy guts but us folks with fragile guts need to take note. Unfortunately the only way to find out which foods affect you and which ones don't is the same approach as whole30: Remove all known triggers from your diet for a few weeks, make sure you're symptom-free, then add small amounts one by one back to see if there are any reactions.

You can try reading up on GAPS/SCD and low FODMAP - both are approaches to handling IBS. There's a lot of information on them so I can't really explain them fully (not to mention my understanding may not be complete), but generally GAPS/SCD is a complete approach towards the problem, with a template and multiple stages to go through. Eg. stage 1, no solid foods, bone broths only. Stage 2, small portions of protein and certain types of vegetables only, must be thoroughly cooked, etc. FODMAP is easier to understand, just eliminate and add back slowly later. I'm following FODMAP and I just started on the second phase, so I can't really tell you how well it works. Hopefully it does!

Oh and if you haven't already, you may want to see a gastroenterologist and conduct some tests, just to eliminate other possible reasons for the symptoms. You can also see how good or bad your guts actually are. I did a gastroscopy and colonoscopy. The doctor can also probably refer you to someone who is more familiar with GAPS/SCD/FODMAP, or if you choose, how to follow up with identifying/treating SIBO. Heard that's really expensive though.

As for the meditation part, I've been trying and failing at it. What works for me is a more active form - doing a simple repetitive activity and just concentrating on doing it. It can be exercise, it can be some simple daily task. Some people do jogging, I find leisure swimming works. It could be peeling potatoes, folding origami, drawing something... Nothing difficult, just as long as it needs some concentration and can be repeated. It will help calm your mind and body, and trains concentration (which is needed for meditation). Hopefully you will eventually find it easier to control the panicky feelings and cope better with stress.

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on April 18, 2013
at 12:09 PM

Have you tried tracking what you're eating each day and seeing if you're deficient in any macros? I was feeling a little anxious with a racing heart and found that I was deficient in magnesium. I started supplementing and felt better in a matter of days, which I thought was pretty crazy. It doesn't address your stomach problems per ce, but maybe tracking your macros could help. n=1 being deficient in any one of the following can really mess with your health:

  • Iodine
  • Selenium
  • Magnesium
  • Vitamin K2
  • Vitamin B12
  • Manganese
  • Choline

More info here and here.

For your stomach, have you tried probiotics like kombucha and water kefir? I've had great success rebuilding my healthy gut flora by incorporating both daily.

Best of luck!

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on April 18, 2013
at 06:00 PM

Thanks for the advice; i don't think i lack magnesium; i'm eating quite a lot of nuts, meat, fish, eggs & vegetables; i should be getting all vitamins needed no? I'll be starting with probiotics soon; will check kombucha & water kefir out! Tanx :-)

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on August 12, 2013
at 04:20 PM

Consider seeing a doctor for your issues instead of random, unqualified people on the internet who are using unproven dietary guidelines to attempt to diagnose your very serious medical issues. Also consider the fact that after switching to a "paleo" diet, whatever that is, may be making your symptoms worse.

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on August 12, 2013
at 04:58 PM

Thank you. I figured paleohacks needed a voice of reason to suggest valid options to help people suffering with very real, often undiagnosed and improperly self-treated diseases.

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on August 12, 2013
at 04:56 PM

My, what insightful answers you're flooding the forum with!

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