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I need help finding the literature for paleo (college club)

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Created August 07, 2013 at 12:04 PM

I'm starting a paleo club at my university this semester. We all know college students can have huge egos. I expect to be opposed in every sense of the word by challenging whole grains, beans, bad dairy, chronic cardio etc. I want to be able to back this up with more than anecdotal evidence online (I'm not as shredded as I'd like, but don't care because I've accepted this as a journey). I have a ton of the paleo books. Should I look through their references? That'd be tedious, but I guess necessary? Also, there was a website I found online dedicated to omega-6 fat research and its ills. Does anyone know what I'm referring to? All help is appreciated! Thanks!!

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on August 07, 2013
at 07:33 PM

The vegan insanity was last summer *** I've been paleo for the last 9 months though

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on August 07, 2013
at 07:32 PM

Thanks :) Nah, I'm gonna be intelligent about this. I lost a ton of weight on Joel Fuhrman's Eat to Live Vegan insanity very fast, and felt terrible after the initial mental clarity and pride wore off. Now, I'm gonna avoid alcohol (that's really my biggest weakness), IF using bulletproof coffee, move slowly more often, and use carb backloading for intense workouts. Intense meaning Doug McGuff BBS workouts. And sprinting once per week. Hopefully that cuts me enough to go shirtless in a month =P

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on August 07, 2013
at 05:52 PM

Buttons! Bumper stickers! Free bacon!

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on August 07, 2013
at 05:51 PM

Read Naipaul's A House for Mr. Biswas for a good snapshot of what damage traditional Indian vegetarianism does to people.

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on August 07, 2013
at 04:08 PM

I do hope you find the science you're looking for to answer people's questions if they ask (not my forte). In terms of leaning out, PLEASE don't compromise your physical/mental health to do it...but it can be pretty convincing to people. Why do you think Mark gets so much respect? Because he's a jacked-as-eff old dude. If all else fails, make people meatza. Everyone loves meatza. All the best!

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on August 07, 2013
at 03:42 PM

I was thinking of 2 sessions per week. One of pure info then a weekend workout session, preferably outside. At least until winter and being completely open about how I live paleo myself, showing them how to shop, eat clean, cook cleanly, etc. that's the focus by fat but I wanna give the geeks what they want too lol. Science. This is for everyone so whatever it takes I want to do

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on August 07, 2013
at 03:40 PM

And I guess it's time to step up my game so I can proudly represent what paleo bodies can look like. I love the food and eat it happily with no weight gain but time to lean out for the first meeting a month from now. Wish me luck

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on August 07, 2013
at 03:38 PM

I definitely agree with the evangelical stuff. I used to be and everyone shut me out. I've radically shifted my POV to complete inclusion and for this, an 80/20 exactly how Mark Sisson runs his. I just want to reach people. And yeah I think anecdotes work great and the logical rather than sciencey stuff but for the premed geeks and stuff I want general studies because they may be genuinely interested if they see good science

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on August 07, 2013
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Everyone at college is a sophomore...bacon and abs throw the pizza diet in to question more than proof texts...

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on August 07, 2013
at 03:26 PM

I don't remember college being about challenging everything lol. Graduate school,yes! College, no. I do remember there being a handful of huge egos but who wants them in a club anyway? It's more about seeing is believing. It all depends on your audience if they need scientific evidence. It would help to have at least a couple of studies at hand but other than that, tell them your own personal journey. They can either join the club or not. Make some cool t-shirts, have some cool swag, and the club is a hit. Trust me. Once people see you in a Paleo Club shirt then that will pique their interest for information.

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on August 07, 2013
at 05:52 PM

Buttons! Bumper stickers! Free bacon!

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on August 07, 2013
at 02:11 PM

Not to be a downer, but my experience in college was that it was pointless to argue. You're probably never going to change someone's mind unless they are "ready" to change. For every study supporting a paleolithic way of eating, someone can pull up another one (of course, of questionable quality) that says wheat is a miracle food or beef is killing you.

The ONLY way I found that "convinced" people to ask me what I was doing "right," was by losing weight, getting visibly stronger and happier, and clearly eating enjoyable food.

For example, I remember sitting at a diner with my friends for brunch absolutely demolishing a pile of eggs and bacon and strawberries (probably cooked in canola but you win some, you lose some). One girl, who felt that she had some weight to lose, had noticed my weight loss AND how much delicious-looking food I was eating. So she reached out to me and was receptive to what I told her.

Bottom line: Focus on your own journey. Find people who are already interested in a similar lifestyle to join your club. Walk the walk, and people will fall in line in time. Build it and they will come, if you will.

You CANNOT be evangelical about this stuff. Evangelism doesn't work. Best of luck to you!

489706f5480edccc9f01130582f7f296

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on August 07, 2013
at 07:32 PM

Thanks :) Nah, I'm gonna be intelligent about this. I lost a ton of weight on Joel Fuhrman's Eat to Live Vegan insanity very fast, and felt terrible after the initial mental clarity and pride wore off. Now, I'm gonna avoid alcohol (that's really my biggest weakness), IF using bulletproof coffee, move slowly more often, and use carb backloading for intense workouts. Intense meaning Doug McGuff BBS workouts. And sprinting once per week. Hopefully that cuts me enough to go shirtless in a month =P

489706f5480edccc9f01130582f7f296

(233)

on August 07, 2013
at 03:40 PM

And I guess it's time to step up my game so I can proudly represent what paleo bodies can look like. I love the food and eat it happily with no weight gain but time to lean out for the first meeting a month from now. Wish me luck

489706f5480edccc9f01130582f7f296

(233)

on August 07, 2013
at 03:38 PM

I definitely agree with the evangelical stuff. I used to be and everyone shut me out. I've radically shifted my POV to complete inclusion and for this, an 80/20 exactly how Mark Sisson runs his. I just want to reach people. And yeah I think anecdotes work great and the logical rather than sciencey stuff but for the premed geeks and stuff I want general studies because they may be genuinely interested if they see good science

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on August 07, 2013
at 03:16 PM

Everyone at college is a sophomore...bacon and abs throw the pizza diet in to question more than proof texts...

E51d7dca3ac0716ba74220b9961a1c3f

(105)

on August 07, 2013
at 04:08 PM

I do hope you find the science you're looking for to answer people's questions if they ask (not my forte). In terms of leaning out, PLEASE don't compromise your physical/mental health to do it...but it can be pretty convincing to people. Why do you think Mark gets so much respect? Because he's a jacked-as-eff old dude. If all else fails, make people meatza. Everyone loves meatza. All the best!

489706f5480edccc9f01130582f7f296

(233)

on August 07, 2013
at 07:33 PM

The vegan insanity was last summer *** I've been paleo for the last 9 months though

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on August 07, 2013
at 03:12 PM

books that rocked and broke my vegan foundations

  • vegetarian myth - lierre Keith
  • (not the hunger games haha) catching fire - How cooking made us human - Richard wrangham
  • The old way: A story of the first people - Elizabeth thomas
  • Salt, Sugar, Fat - Michael moss

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on August 07, 2013
at 05:51 PM

Read Naipaul's A House for Mr. Biswas for a good snapshot of what damage traditional Indian vegetarianism does to people.

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on August 07, 2013
at 01:14 PM

That all sounds tedious and collegiate. How about hiking, camping, potlucks and barbecues instead? Alleviate dorm/library sedentism and demonstrate the food. Drive O6 out by eating rather than lecturing. Make it as social and friendly as you possibly can.

If you want to be literary, stress on paleoanthropology over the usual paleo pundits. Ancestral paths. Tribalism. What we were meant to eat. No one will argue with the fact that Francis Parkman joined the upper plains Amerind buffalo hunt in the summer of 1846 and ate the 80-100% meat ancestral diet with them. This kind of discussion avoids needless credential fights and data quibbling with, for instance, vegan PhD biochemists.

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on August 07, 2013
at 03:42 PM

I was thinking of 2 sessions per week. One of pure info then a weekend workout session, preferably outside. At least until winter and being completely open about how I live paleo myself, showing them how to shop, eat clean, cook cleanly, etc. that's the focus by fat but I wanna give the geeks what they want too lol. Science. This is for everyone so whatever it takes I want to do

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