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I'm losing weight very slowly/not at all. What gives?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created December 14, 2012 at 2:42 AM

I've been Paleo for almost a year now. Though I've fallen off the wagon several times. Until the past two months where I've finally found my groove. Yay! I definitely feel better so I know I'm doing the right thing.

The down side is that I'm not really sure why I'm having such a hard time losing weight. I lost 10 pounds initially and plateaued for forever until the past two months where I've finally cracked down. I lost two more pounds initially and then stopped again.

I'm a girl, age 23. I'm 6'0 tall and I started at 192.5 though now I'm around 180. I'm definitely happy that I lost that weight, but I want to lose so much more. I was 158 three years ago before I had my son, so I know what I'm suppose to weight, I just can't get there.

I exercise every other day. This is something I also added the past last couple months because I found that I started to crave physical activities. I just do sprints on a mechanical bike until I just can't any more(usually for only about 1 minute...I know, I know. I'm a wimp.) and then I lift 5 pound weights while standing(again till my arms can't stand it, between 30 and 40 reps) and then I do some situps(20ish) and as many 10 second planks as I can(usually 3 to 5).

I haven't had actual sugar in almost two weeks and no artificial sweetners. I have a special something every now and then which consists of either a sweet potato with butter or half of cup of blueberries with cream. For all other meals, it's always a protein and a veggie, like green beans. We don't always have grassfed meats because they are very expensive and hard to come by. But we watch our ingredient lists with anything we buy and I can't remember the last time we actually had a "boxed" product. I stay between 30 and 50 carbs most days. I have 3 or 4 cups of decaf coffee through the day as well with no sugar added and a splash of cream. And of course water, whenever I get thirsty inbetween. I also try to watch my calories and make sure I stay under 2000 but I'm not super strict about that compared to how strict I am about the carbs.

Am I doing something wrong or have I just not been going at it long enough? It's really discouraging, watching my hubby lose almost 35 pounds now. Who, by the way, has just as much coffee as I do, but puts a teaspoon of sugar in it everytime...I'm so jealous.

D41bd7b3d3b962eb0146f471eb632f56

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on December 16, 2012
at 04:56 AM

Yup, I grew an inch taller between ages 20 and 22.

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

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on December 15, 2012
at 05:12 PM

I definitely agree with Michelle. Between ages 20-23, I grew two inches, one and a half shoe sizes, and gained thirty pounds, mostly in all the right spots. Measurements at age 20 isn't necessarily representative of what should be expected through adulthood. You can still grow and develop after that.

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on December 15, 2012
at 02:34 AM

I just added up what I ate today in fit day and it was 1200 calories, so maybe I over estimated my average calories since I recently cut out more sugars.

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on December 15, 2012
at 02:19 AM

There are some here that think calories matter. I'm one of them. If I didn't have weight to lose, more would make sense, but as I want my body to go to my fat to make up the missing calories, eating less makes sense. My body should be getting the rest of my needs from the stored fat I have. That's the point. If I eat as much calories as I'm using, my body won't *need* to use stored fat. When I'm down to the weight I want, then I will eat more. It seems very logical to me. If you guys are really hungry on less calories, you probably aren't in ketosis. I don't starve, I'm healthy, I eat well.

88dfec6a41f12fba90e542a018a8fc08

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on December 15, 2012
at 02:14 AM

Thanks for the suggestions. I don't have much of a caffeine problem as long as I don't drink any caffeine after 5 in the afternoon. I'll see if I can tweak my work outs and up my carbs a little.

88dfec6a41f12fba90e542a018a8fc08

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on December 15, 2012
at 01:59 AM

I've been 6' 155 pounds since I was probably 17. I know that losing the weight will take a while. But since I put it all in about 9 months from being pregnant, I just wish that it could come of as fast as it came on I guess. I definitely feel better when I have more carbs, but I was afraid that was just from excess sugar. Maybe that's where my problem is?

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on December 15, 2012
at 01:57 AM

1200 does sound somewhat extreme to me. How do you eat enough healthy fats if you can only have 1200 calories? I mean I thought that fat on a Paleo lifestyle was good thing.

88dfec6a41f12fba90e542a018a8fc08

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on December 15, 2012
at 01:54 AM

I do use fit day although the past couple weeks I've stopped because I've gotten used to knowing that what I typically eat usually equals between 1500 and 2000 calories. I have a liking for cream and bacon so that usually ups my calorie intake. I guess I'm seeing calories as better than added carbs so I stay away from a ton of fruit and veggies. Maybe I'm just scared to add more than 50 carbs in because I've worked so hard to lose that weight that I have. Thanks for your help!

19ff515e8ec02d95e8f2cf68c3ec1373

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on December 14, 2012
at 11:16 PM

Actually, no, excess protein won't have an effect. http://www.ketotic.org/2012/08/if-you-eat-excess-protein-does-it-turn.html "In sum, then, there is no evidence that we could find that consuming excess protein will increase glucose production from GNG. On the other hand, there is much suggestive evidence that it does not."

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on December 14, 2012
at 02:06 PM

@ Michelle: I am heavier, and 5'10", which is similar to this woman. I don't starve at all, I feel just fine on what I eat. I weightlift, walk seeral miles a day, and ride a bike. She doesn't have to do 1200, I was just giving her my example.

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on December 14, 2012
at 12:16 PM

I gain weight at 2000. I would pass out at 1200. Everyone is different, and much depends on how much movement you get & how well your metabolism is functioning, but since Jessica has stopped losing, she might try lowering it a bit. I lose weight at 1750 or below so long as I keep my carbs below 30%. She should experiment to see what works.

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on December 14, 2012
at 11:37 AM

Who downvoted this?!

D41bd7b3d3b962eb0146f471eb632f56

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on December 14, 2012
at 06:49 AM

To your credit, I do agree with the weightlifting suggestions. I was thinking the same thing.

D41bd7b3d3b962eb0146f471eb632f56

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on December 14, 2012
at 06:47 AM

I very much disagree that 2000 calories is high. I lost weight on an average of 1500/day and I am barely 5'7". I STARVED and my weight loss stalled if I ate a calorie less than that. I don't have any magic metabolism. My basal metabolic rate, the number of calories I'd need to consume to keep from wasting away if all I did was lie in bed all day, was measured by machine at 1550. Right at normal. 1200 is MINIMUM given to the woman of AVERAGE height (5'4") and body type (not under/overweight) so that she might not starve. If you are heavier or taller than that, your body needs more nutrients.

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D41bd7b3d3b962eb0146f471eb632f56

on December 14, 2012
at 06:38 AM

I'm a girl, age 23. I'm 6'0 tall and I started at 192.5 though now I'm around 180. I'm definitely happy that I lost that weight, but I want to lose so much more. I was 158 three years ago before I had my son, so I know what I'm suppose to weigh, I just can't get there.

You really can't say that your weight at age 20 is an ideal adult weight. We are all still growing at age 20. I grew 40 lbs around that age, and half of that was in lean body mass, and I wasn't even exercising. Most I know experienced the same thing. When I set on a trek to lose weight, I tried to lose all the weight I gained in the two and a half years in took to gain that much weight. That turned out to be a mistake because my lean body mass had "filled out" and when I got to within 10 lbs of that weight, it became such a struggle that I became disordered. By the time I was even within five pounds of that weight, my health was showing signs of being underweight and undernourished (despite not looking it with my large frame). I was never able to get to that weight again, and it was really for the best. This was my experience, and your mileage may vary, but it's something to keep in mind you are aiming to lose. And honestly, 180 lbs at 6 feet tall really not overweight, so I'm sure you don't have much to lose. :)

That said, all you're doing looks good, though it could be worth lightening up on the macronutrient tracking if your blood sugar regulation is okay. You mentioned you lighten up on the total calories before lightening up on the carb count. Keep in mind, calories count no matter where they come from. Excess calories from fat are still excess calories in terms of storage. Some on this board, including myself, lost best with a higher (100-200g/day) carb intake. It's really a personal thing. But it's worth a try if what you're doing isn't quite doing it for you, especially in light of all the activity you're doing!

D41bd7b3d3b962eb0146f471eb632f56

(2029)

on December 16, 2012
at 04:56 AM

Yup, I grew an inch taller between ages 20 and 22.

88dfec6a41f12fba90e542a018a8fc08

(13)

on December 15, 2012
at 01:59 AM

I've been 6' 155 pounds since I was probably 17. I know that losing the weight will take a while. But since I put it all in about 9 months from being pregnant, I just wish that it could come of as fast as it came on I guess. I definitely feel better when I have more carbs, but I was afraid that was just from excess sugar. Maybe that's where my problem is?

61f9349ad28e3c42d1cec58ba4825a7d

(10490)

on December 15, 2012
at 05:12 PM

I definitely agree with Michelle. Between ages 20-23, I grew two inches, one and a half shoe sizes, and gained thirty pounds, mostly in all the right spots. Measurements at age 20 isn't necessarily representative of what should be expected through adulthood. You can still grow and develop after that.

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on December 14, 2012
at 09:34 AM

1) Watch you're protein intake, if you ARE trying to enter ketosis, excess protein WILL convert to glucose via de novo gluconeogensis.

2) Try Calorie Cycling: On workout days up calories a few hundred, and rest days drop calories a few hundred.

3) don't excessively drop calories. That is no more beneficial than anything else you can do. In fact you may lose weight SLOWER due to the slower metabolism since Leptin will lower and various thyroid hormones (t3 i believe) will lower. You'll only remain hungry and irratible.

4) Workout LESS but more INTENSE. every other day I'm assuming you're working out 4x a week. Depending on how long you have been working out and past history, that might be excessive. I can personally do fine on 4x a week although I typicall keep it to 3x, but I come from a background of 2xday foot ball practice and 3hr long wrestling practices. - Do a full body workout incorporating compound lifts, you will burn more cals and get a larger hormonal response. Don't even have to lift HEAVY per se, just something that is fairly INTENSE for YOU. do some free weight squats, maybe some overhead presses with dumbbells. Look on youtube for demonstrations of the myotatic crunch and tummy vacuum, if done properly they're extremely intense and the best I've ever gotten my abs were doing multiple sets of both (although that was probably overkill, maybe I could've gotten better results)

5) do you have a problem tolerating caffeine? if not I'd suggest not going for the decaff. I haven't read the medical/nutritional literature deeply enough on this topic, but Dave Asprey over at BulletProofExec states caffeine protects coffee from Mycotoxins, which themselves can lead to obesity regardless of caloric intake. Also caffeine increases excretion of various fat burning chemicals.

6)Maybe a carb refeed now and then? you're Leptin levels are probably low, and depending on your overall lifestyle, cortisol maybe high?

If you're interested in reading at all I'd recommend you read Body By Science/4-Hour Body for some nontraditional, yet insightful "hacks" for weightloss. Also check out Marks Daily Apple. I don't know, these are just my insights and observations. Hope it helps though.

88dfec6a41f12fba90e542a018a8fc08

(13)

on December 15, 2012
at 02:14 AM

Thanks for the suggestions. I don't have much of a caffeine problem as long as I don't drink any caffeine after 5 in the afternoon. I'll see if I can tweak my work outs and up my carbs a little.

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on July 23, 2013
at 08:14 PM

Just experiment..eat less carbs maybe, maybe absolutely no nuts or fruit for awhile..but, don't stress. Just keep experimenting. Do you feel good? Not obese? Happy? Cool. Sheesh, do your best and while your doing that...enjoy life. It's passing you by with all the mumbo jumbo! Lol..Cavemen didn't talk keto whatever!

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on December 15, 2012
at 09:40 AM

Hi there, I've been there like you. I know what you mean when you say you can't lose weight. I believe that everyone should find their best way to lose weight. It is not a simple subject. One thing is for sure, you must be consistent about it. Anyhow, I found one weight-loss system that works for me, I don't know if it will work for everyone but maybe it is a good idea to check it out... I found it just by searching the web and after many different tries. Have a look if you want: http://bit.ly/VaYiG3 Good luck to you all!!

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on December 14, 2012
at 08:10 PM

I also try to watch my calories and make sure I stay under 2000 but I'm not super strict about that compared to how strict I am about the carbs.

You have it backwards. Eating paleo is probably healthier than what you were doing before, but it's not because of the carbs. So that's fine. But how is it that you can get away with eating more calories in general than you need? I don't want to hear anything about insulin or ketogenesis. Are you eating too much?

I eat on average about 400g carbs a day. to lose weight i end up eating 200g, but that's at 7% bodyfat, when I step on stage. I don't understand low carb, but i won't get into that. This is the important thing. I gain weight when i want to, and I lose weight when I want to. I don't just let things happen to me that weren't intended. And when I mess up and seek advice, I don't just take it blindly without finding out if it's actually something that will help. Repeat after me. I am in control of my body. When I want to lose weight, I eat less and exercise more. If i get too skinny, I'll eat more, and also exercise more.

1) Watch you're protein intake, if you ARE trying to enter ketosis, excess protein WILL convert to glucose via de novo gluconeogensis.

2) Try Calorie Cycling: On workout days up calories a few hundred, and rest days drop calories a few hundred.

this is why the internet is awful.

  1. your muscles can only use sugar as an energy source. there is no other energy your muscles can use. none. zero zilch. no sugar? the body makes its own. protein gluconeogenesis. fat oxidization and ketosis. All are the body's coping mechanism for desperately trying to fuel your activities in the absence of its PREFERRED energy source. the same thing happens in the end. sugar. muscles. energy. fat to sugar, aminos to sugar. doesn' matter.

The fact that you want to be in keto perplexes me...as it's probably the most inefficient way to operate a human body. But lets say for the sake of argument this is our goal. For you to get into keto, you'd need to have fat be the BULK of your calories. Without bringing in science mumbo jumbo, lets just say the body is good at making sugar from whatever you eat the most. So keto - fat. But what's this about gluconeogenesis? The statement there is false. The body, if it wants sugar will get it. It will literally eat your organs and muscle tissue in extreme cases to get its energy requirement. So are you advising her to eat a high fat diet, and while dealing with the stresses of being on a ketogenic program, also go protein deficient?

Why not...just eat like 2000 calories of food. ice cream. 1 pop tart. a burrito, some chips, diet soda?

Don't believe me? you can see what i eat everyday. If you wanna see how I look eating it, you can check my website in the profiles page.

Repeat after me. I am in control.

19ff515e8ec02d95e8f2cf68c3ec1373

(1207)

on December 14, 2012
at 11:16 PM

Actually, no, excess protein won't have an effect. http://www.ketotic.org/2012/08/if-you-eat-excess-protein-does-it-turn.html "In sum, then, there is no evidence that we could find that consuming excess protein will increase glucose production from GNG. On the other hand, there is much suggestive evidence that it does not."

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on December 14, 2012
at 01:14 PM

You might post what you eat in a typical day so folks can "hack" it. Generally your diet sounds good, congrats on dropping the sugar and boxed foods.

Counting calories is a hassle but you might enter everything that you eat into fitday.com for a week or two just to make sure you're eating what you think you're eating. When I started Paleo I was 6' 229# and once I switched to low carb and stopped eating grains and sugars, my appetite decreased and I was eating around 1200 calories per day. You said you're eating about 2000 per day which sounds like a lot.

I wouldn't worry too much about sweet potatoes being a "cheat" in fact I think they should be part of everyone's diet. I was very low carb (<= 25g) for a few months, and found that this worked better if I had significant carbs about once per week. Carbs have been my enemy most of my adult life, but with the Paleo diet and 3 intense workouts per week, I find that I can have a lot more carbs that I used to, I try to limit them to after workouts or once every 7-10 days.

I find that some foods actually make me hungrier, like if I have a sugary or starchy breakfast, I'm hungry 2 hours later, but if I have the same number of calories as just protein (i.e. eggs), I'm not hungry for much longer, and can sometimes make it all the way to dinner. My diet was pretty high in fat too, and I found that I could eat a higher percentage of my calories as fat but overall eat a lot less calories.

Your exercises are a good start but I would try to add more. Don't think that you have to be a super gymnast, just try to do an intense workout for 20-30 minutes every other day without stopping, something that includes working your largest muscles. Working your largest muscles is what burns the most fat. You might look into taking a class. I was doing exercises at home and joined a crossfit class and found that the class was about 3 times as intense as what I was doing at home, and much more varied, and made a huge difference in losing weight and inches. On your non-workout days, try to go for long walks. I used to commute on the bus/train which involved a lot of walking which was great.

As others have said, trying to lose weight at age 23 can be tricky, especially recently after having a kid, as your body is still growing into adulthood and adapting from the baby. Losing some weight is a good goal but be sure you're doing so in a healthy way -- it certainly sounds like you're on the right track.

88dfec6a41f12fba90e542a018a8fc08

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on December 15, 2012
at 02:34 AM

I just added up what I ate today in fit day and it was 1200 calories, so maybe I over estimated my average calories since I recently cut out more sugars.

88dfec6a41f12fba90e542a018a8fc08

(13)

on December 15, 2012
at 01:54 AM

I do use fit day although the past couple weeks I've stopped because I've gotten used to knowing that what I typically eat usually equals between 1500 and 2000 calories. I have a liking for cream and bacon so that usually ups my calorie intake. I guess I'm seeing calories as better than added carbs so I stay away from a ton of fruit and veggies. Maybe I'm just scared to add more than 50 carbs in because I've worked so hard to lose that weight that I have. Thanks for your help!

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on December 14, 2012
at 07:32 AM

Eat more fat! Seriously. Try it.

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on December 14, 2012
at 05:44 AM

You seem on the right track. I will say that your weightlifting could be a little more vigorous, especially for weight loss. Try higher weights, lower reps, and a wider variety of lifts.

Also, 2000 calories is high for weight loss. I am just a bit shorter, at 5'10", and I try to stay at or below 1200. You can have higher calories when you're maintaining.

D41bd7b3d3b962eb0146f471eb632f56

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on December 14, 2012
at 06:47 AM

I very much disagree that 2000 calories is high. I lost weight on an average of 1500/day and I am barely 5'7". I STARVED and my weight loss stalled if I ate a calorie less than that. I don't have any magic metabolism. My basal metabolic rate, the number of calories I'd need to consume to keep from wasting away if all I did was lie in bed all day, was measured by machine at 1550. Right at normal. 1200 is MINIMUM given to the woman of AVERAGE height (5'4") and body type (not under/overweight) so that she might not starve. If you are heavier or taller than that, your body needs more nutrients.

88dfec6a41f12fba90e542a018a8fc08

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on December 15, 2012
at 01:57 AM

1200 does sound somewhat extreme to me. How do you eat enough healthy fats if you can only have 1200 calories? I mean I thought that fat on a Paleo lifestyle was good thing.

366c23d69eadce094a2b22299c58a424

(2988)

on December 14, 2012
at 12:16 PM

I gain weight at 2000. I would pass out at 1200. Everyone is different, and much depends on how much movement you get & how well your metabolism is functioning, but since Jessica has stopped losing, she might try lowering it a bit. I lose weight at 1750 or below so long as I keep my carbs below 30%. She should experiment to see what works.

D41bd7b3d3b962eb0146f471eb632f56

(2029)

on December 14, 2012
at 06:49 AM

To your credit, I do agree with the weightlifting suggestions. I was thinking the same thing.

Cc3ce03985eac5ebcbb95fc2329f13b0

(7370)

on December 15, 2012
at 02:19 AM

There are some here that think calories matter. I'm one of them. If I didn't have weight to lose, more would make sense, but as I want my body to go to my fat to make up the missing calories, eating less makes sense. My body should be getting the rest of my needs from the stored fat I have. That's the point. If I eat as much calories as I'm using, my body won't *need* to use stored fat. When I'm down to the weight I want, then I will eat more. It seems very logical to me. If you guys are really hungry on less calories, you probably aren't in ketosis. I don't starve, I'm healthy, I eat well.

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on December 14, 2012
at 02:06 PM

@ Michelle: I am heavier, and 5'10", which is similar to this woman. I don't starve at all, I feel just fine on what I eat. I weightlift, walk seeral miles a day, and ride a bike. She doesn't have to do 1200, I was just giving her my example.

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