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How important is it for the meat to be grass-fed/free range?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created July 18, 2013 at 5:45 PM

It took a while to convince my parents to let me do Paleo, but considering we're a muslim household they want to make sure it's Halal. -__-

Given that, I've only managed to find ONE halal-free-range-grass-fed meat butcher in the entire city, but he's way on the opposite end.

I can do fruits and veggies no problem, nuts as well and am good with my water intake. Completely avoiding anything with gluten and dairy (every now and then I'll do white rice).

Any ideas?

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on July 19, 2013
at 03:43 PM

"read for the gospel of grok" haha... your info is good for me Matt, it's appreciated. I do eat grass-fed meat 80% of the time from a local farm near me, it's just nice to have these little pieces of info that wouldn't be mentioned by the hardcore paleo.

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on July 19, 2013
at 01:31 AM

Ritual slaughter by slitting the throat is actually a pretty quick and painless way to die; they slip out of consciousness. Sure a bolt gun to the head accomplishes the same thing, except with some brain scrambling (which sounds quite traumatic).

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on July 19, 2013
at 01:28 AM

The problematic word in my opinion is 'only', cows can certainly eat grains and do quite well on grains, they are a domesticated animal after all, they've been bred to be docile, grow fast, put on tons of fat, and eat grains. A little bit of grain-feeding isn't detrimental, but solely feeding grain (a la CAFO) is problematic. Just my practical farmer side talking; if you want somebody to read for the Gospel of Grok, I'm sure others will do that.

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on July 19, 2013
at 12:38 AM

Grass-fed isn't all that important from a dietary standpoint. It's more of an ethical issue as far as the animal having a happy life, IMHO, as well as being less likely to be tainted during processing.

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on July 18, 2013
at 11:02 PM

What makes you say that Matt? i'm not trying to create a debate by the way, you just strike me as a knowledgeable guy & am interested as to why you think grass-fed only is hype?

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on July 18, 2013
at 06:29 PM

Remind your parents that halal is more than the ritual and the words, it's how the animal was raised. It should be wholesome, fed naturally, and raised humanely. Taking a cow off a feedlot and praying over it would technically be halal, but not halal in spirit.

That said, cattle fed some grain supplement is perfectly fine. Grass-fed only beef is a lot of hype.

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on July 19, 2013
at 01:28 AM

The problematic word in my opinion is 'only', cows can certainly eat grains and do quite well on grains, they are a domesticated animal after all, they've been bred to be docile, grow fast, put on tons of fat, and eat grains. A little bit of grain-feeding isn't detrimental, but solely feeding grain (a la CAFO) is problematic. Just my practical farmer side talking; if you want somebody to read for the Gospel of Grok, I'm sure others will do that.

C4deaa6bb01626b4569e8992890381ab

(930)

on July 18, 2013
at 11:02 PM

What makes you say that Matt? i'm not trying to create a debate by the way, you just strike me as a knowledgeable guy & am interested as to why you think grass-fed only is hype?

C4deaa6bb01626b4569e8992890381ab

(930)

on July 19, 2013
at 03:43 PM

"read for the gospel of grok" haha... your info is good for me Matt, it's appreciated. I do eat grass-fed meat 80% of the time from a local farm near me, it's just nice to have these little pieces of info that wouldn't be mentioned by the hardcore paleo.

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on July 18, 2013
at 10:32 PM

Ideally, you want a 1:5 or so ratio of omega 3:6. With olive oil, you're looking at a 1:10 ratio. Grain-fed beef, maybe a 1:7 ratio. Grass-fed, you hit the sweet spot at 1:3 or so. That should sell you on it.

As an atheist, I'd rather eat a happy cow that was able to see a bunch of sunlight and eat grass vs a grain-fed one given a ritual slaughter described as inhumane by some animal welfare organizations in the U.K. and the U.S. who have stated that it "causes severe suffering to animals."

32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

(41747)

on July 19, 2013
at 01:31 AM

Ritual slaughter by slitting the throat is actually a pretty quick and painless way to die; they slip out of consciousness. Sure a bolt gun to the head accomplishes the same thing, except with some brain scrambling (which sounds quite traumatic).

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on July 18, 2013
at 05:57 PM

It's important if you're going to be eating a lot of fatty meat; however, there's ways to get around it if you don't have ready access to grass-fed fatty meat. Cutting your consumption of meat and supplementing with fish is a good way to keep your O3 and O6 levels balanced (and you should probably be getting fish once or twice a week regardless, just to get enough O3 in your diet). Another option is to buy lean cuts of grain-fed meat and add in a grass-fed dairy fat like butter or ghee. There are a few brands of butter that are grass-fed that are carried around the world (Kerrygold is the only one I know of off the top of my head, but others may have suggestions for specific areas). I apologize in advance if any of those food suggestions are off-limits; I'm not too familiar with religious food restrictions :\

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on July 18, 2013
at 07:16 PM

I think it is very important. There is the O3 angle of course, but also Vit. A, D and K2, all of which are far more abundant in grass fed beef. I will eat a low priced cut of grass fed beef (short ribs, neck meat, tripe, heart) rather than supermarket meat. Your solution is to get a freezer, and buy a ton of the cheapest cow parts when you go across town. A working freezer on Craigslist cost $100. I also agree that some grain supplementation is not decisive in theory, but given that in practice most meat comes from feedlots, I would insist on grass fed. Visually, you should be able to see the difference.

Pastured eggs are not subject to halal restrictions, and they give you a lot of the same (O3,Vit.A/D/K2). They are cheap. I have encouraged my daughter to eat them every day, and she does.

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