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Help: I feel better being off Paleo

Commented on September 13, 2013
Created September 12, 2013 at 1:03 AM

5'11??? 44 years old, 175 pounds, good shape.

I have been on a strict Paleo diet for 3 years. First thing I noticed when going Paleo was that my energy increased. I also stopped getting sick. Before going Paleo I used to be sick with a flu at least 30 days out of the year. Since going Paleo I have been sick maybe 5 days TOTAL. And if I do get a flu it never lasts more than 24 hours.

But sometime between the 1.5 year and 2 year mark of being Paleo I developed heart palpitations. At first I though it was because I was not ???Paleo Enough???. So I dropped to low carb Paleo of being under 50g of carbs a day. This made things tremendously worse, I was now getting heart palpitations if I took a shower or ate any meal. After a month I went back to regular Paleo. The heart palpitation minimized but where still persistent. I had my heart checked out but no problems were found. After having palpitations for another year I decided that this is a serious problem that needed addressing.

I thought that maybe the Paleo diet was causing me to be nutrient deficient and this was the reason for the palpitations so I did a Spectracell test and besides being slightly bit low on zinc everything else checked out. (I started supplementing with zinc).

Since I never had palpitations before I went Paleo and now I had them I decided to start cheating with my diet.

I started intermittently eating cheese and bread, ordering beans with my Chipotle and drinking 4 to 5 beers a week.

Within a week my heart palpitations stopped and have not returned outside of maybe a skipped beat here or there. While being Paleo my palpitations would last for hours and hours a few times a week.

What I find very interesting from all the research I have done is that it seems if someone is going to have a problem with their diet be it Vegetarian, GAPS or in my case Paleo the problems usually come in the 1.5 to 2 year mark. My feeling although I have no proof that the diet alters our gut flora after a year or two and this is the reason for the problems.

As for me I would love to go back to being 100% Paleo again but the palpitations are just too much of a concern. If anyone has any suggestions I would love some feedback.

I have also done tons of tests before finally getting of Paleo if anyone is looking for certain numbers please let me know I will be glad to post them.

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on September 13, 2013
at 03:06 PM

It's funny because first I went gluten free, then decided to cut out all grains too! It felt great. That's what lead me to Paleo (looking for gluten/grain-free recipies tripped me up on Paleo stuff). Paleo lead me to PHD and a dash of Ray Peat. Now I'm learning about WAPF a little, but need to finish PHD first. It's all about what works for you. PHD makes the most sense to me so far and it's the most versatile so I can adapt it to my daily, monthly, and yearly changes.

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on September 13, 2013
at 01:11 PM

I know what you mean. When I go full paleo, let go of all grains, I feel good, hunger normalizes wonderfully, my weight drops, love it love it love it, but then I get stomach pains (my gerd returns). I don't know why, doesn't make sense to me, but maybe some of us just need more starch. I started eating rice foods again. What's especially weird is that it was initially letting go of all grains (including rice) that got rid of the gerd in the first place! I'm still trying to figure this out.

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on September 13, 2013
at 04:58 AM

I really enjoyed Perfect Health Diet Book. (One reason I add rice once in a while).

I feel a little sad getting off something that I thought was the optimum diet, it just did not work out that way for me :(

I am starting to listen to my body more.

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on September 13, 2013
at 04:48 AM

Hi Matt,

I went down that road thinking the same thing as you, and had a thyroid panel done.

TSH - 2.26

Thyroxine (T4) - 9.0

T3 Uptake - 31

Free Thyroxine Index - 2.8

Triiodothyronine (T3) - 113

All are within range.

One thing which has been out of whack has been my DHEA which has been low. Still can't figure out what causes low DHEA.

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See my post below

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on September 13, 2013
at 12:55 PM

I would be curious what your activity level is compared to your carb intake. Maybe you weren't getting enough carbs for your activity level. That said, maybe you should talk to your doctor about your heart palpitations and occasional skipped beats.

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on September 12, 2013
at 03:36 PM

Paleo is up to you. Do what works for your body.

I don't think "bread" and "beans" are going to do any great thing for you but I have no problem with dairy. I eat cheese and yogurt and drink half-and-half like I used to drink milk. I even indulge in ice cream now and then! I eat lots of potatoes and rice and fruits and not a whole lot of meat. I get most of my calories from fat though. Again, it's about finding what works for YOUR body. Even the occasional beans could be right for you and, if you must, hell eat bread. I'm not about to tell you it's the devil's excrement, but I know I feel better without it.

Just keep as much as you can to whole, real, natural food. If you eat things with an ingredient list, make sure it's a VERY SHORT list, and try to eat mostly things that don't require an ingredient list. Cook a lot.

I'd say just keep experimenting. You'll find a "perfect diet" for you. Don't let anyone tell you what's the perfect diet for everyone.

Did you ever read the Perfect Health Diet book? I'm about 3/4 done with it and a lot of the ideas run counter to a lot of what Paleo folk are doing.

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on September 13, 2013
at 04:58 AM

I really enjoyed Perfect Health Diet Book. (One reason I add rice once in a while).

I feel a little sad getting off something that I thought was the optimum diet, it just did not work out that way for me :(

I am starting to listen to my body more.

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on September 12, 2013
at 08:47 AM

Were you tested for hypothyroidism? Heart palpitations are a common symptom. A lot of people over at PHD think there's a common link between low carbing and thyroid issues.

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on September 13, 2013
at 04:48 AM

Hi Matt,

I went down that road thinking the same thing as you, and had a thyroid panel done.

TSH - 2.26

Thyroxine (T4) - 9.0

T3 Uptake - 31

Free Thyroxine Index - 2.8

Triiodothyronine (T3) - 113

All are within range.

One thing which has been out of whack has been my DHEA which has been low. Still can't figure out what causes low DHEA.

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on September 12, 2013
at 07:46 AM

I eat realistically 85% Paleo. I drink beer barely, cheat on chocolate. I was 247 23%bf. Thyroid toast, bad metabolic syndrome. 2 years later measure 9% via skin fold test. I walk 214 but following intermittent fast weigh 209. Lot of attention on my functional fitness, also speed things up.

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on September 12, 2013
at 06:16 AM

Thats the annoying thing is that there was no particular food that I can attribute to the palpitations. A few things did make it worse. I never drank coffee but tea definitely made the palpitations worse. Interesting thing I noticed about tea is that the palpitations happened 5 to 6 hours after drinking tea not right away. Towards the end I stopped drinking tea completely.

One thing I did notice is that the palpitations often would happen as soon as I would start eating when I was hungry. Specially meals that were higher in fat. Eating on a half full or full stomach rarely caused problems.

I thought that this might be related to me possibly having H. Pylori. H Pylori can increase heart Palps. Had myself tested and was negative for H Pylori n both breath test and stool test. That was a dead end.

The only non paleo food I would eat and very rarely was white rice and goat kefir. But neither had any effect on frequency or an on set of palps.

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on September 12, 2013
at 05:41 AM

Idk why but seems like a troll post. What were you eating when you were Paleo? Many people are not always tolerant to all Paleo food.

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on September 12, 2013
at 06:18 AM

See my post below

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on September 12, 2013
at 02:02 AM

You could try sticking a few typical/example food days in to something like cronometer.com.

Do 1 or 2 days from both your paleo & non-paleo eating days. Then compare the two & see if anything obvious (or may be not so obvious) jumps out.

I'd be interesting to see the differences myself, so post them up if you get a chance.

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