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Hair loss, calcium, raw dairy, ray peat, problem, help!!

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created February 03, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Okay people,

I'm having a bit of a problem, and I am in need of some instant advice here...

For starters, I'm on a paleo diet/ray peat diet.

My diet consists of grass fed beef, potatoes, some fruit, veggies every once in a while, chicken, gelatin, OJ.

I have hashimoto's and I take 3mg of LDN (low dose naltrexone) and it seems to be working really well..

However I still get cold/numb extremities sometimes and ive looked into supplementing with calcium and magnesium to counteract it. But instead of supplementing with calcium I decided to take egg shell calcium and eat raw dairy. Since supplementing with magnesium and eating raw dairy, I've been having some complications..

First off, the milk doesnt give me any digestive distress, and I seem to tolerate it quite well. However two problems occur. One is that my scalp starts to itch a little bit, and when I go to urinate/pee and im about to finish my urine turns white, and it starts to burn LIKE CRAZY.. So it seems like im dumping excess calcium or something? Which is strange to me because I really didnt eat dairy up until this occurred. So why would my body be dumping calcium, if im pretty sure i'm lacking it? Not enough zinc/copper, not enough magnesium? IDK you people seem to know a lot, so lets put our heads together and try to figure this thing out for me.

This has gone on for two days straight, and ive only been supplementing for 3. The most magnesium I've taken is around 600mg in a single day, and calcium about a 1000, but today all I did was have 1 cup of raw milk, and the dumping of calcium/urination thing happened an hour after.. I just don't know whats going on, and why... If someone can give me some advice/insight i'd greatly appreciate it.

and no its not some STD or something crazy like that..

Also, the supplementing of cal/mag does seem to help w/ the cold extremities, so I know im doing something semi right, but perhaps Im just missing some important element..

anyways, I know this is a giant rambling question, but I could use some advice please!

Thanks again!

-B

3db91ab30a114f3283334eea4309d74d

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on February 27, 2013
at 09:00 PM

Well I might believe that, but when I plugged my diet into cronometer it said that my niacin intake was 300% daily value.. (56mg total) Is it okay to get that much more? If so, what brand would you recommend?

3db91ab30a114f3283334eea4309d74d

(10)

on February 27, 2013
at 09:00 PM

Well I might believe that, but when I plugged my diet into cronometer, it said that my niacin intake was 300% daily value.. (56mg total) Is it okay to get that much more? If so, what brand would you recommend?

3db91ab30a114f3283334eea4309d74d

(10)

on February 07, 2013
at 10:32 PM

250-300 carbs..***

3db91ab30a114f3283334eea4309d74d

(10)

on February 07, 2013
at 10:31 PM

Okay, so take lots of great lakes geltain w/ muscle meats, and way more fruit/juice to give me carbohyrdate intake.. Thus improving thyroid function... Ive been donig this for 2 days now and man, I feel so much better.. Going to get my carb intake up to about 250-200mg per day and than try to reintroduce dairy again.. Thanks!

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on February 05, 2013
at 08:26 AM

Muscle meats are okay when balanced with gelatin. In hypothyroidism, lactase production is often compromized. It takes some time to adapt to lactose in your diet (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10812376). Your cold hands could be an indication of hypothyroidism, which can be the cause of bacterial overgrowth (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17698907). This, in turn, can cause problems with lactase (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1973395). Since the thyroid is so important for many processes (as illustrated by Broda Barnes), it might be good to check your temperature and pulse.

3db91ab30a114f3283334eea4309d74d

(10)

on February 04, 2013
at 11:06 PM

Def have lactose intolerance. Headache and hair looks awful today from drinking milk again.. Im assuming there is no cure for lactose intolerance... Hard to get adequate protein w/out not eating muscle meats now.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on February 04, 2013
at 10:31 PM

Peat says one cup of coffee has 40mg magnesium though I don't have data right now (I'm on my mobile). I had urine problems when I took 15k iu of vitamin D and drank lots of milk. Because I was still fully in serotonin syndrome back then I tought I would die from it :). Still have serotonin syndrome but it's slightly improving. Social stress + excess substance use pretty much ruined my health, at least for now :D

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on February 04, 2013
at 10:27 PM

Tingles can be a lot of things, from intestinal irritation to deficiencies. It might correlate with temp and pulse (in my case it does though it's slightly more complicated). Peat never recommends eggshell if you're already getting calcium from dairy. If tolerated, orange juice, milk and chocolate provide generous amounts of magnesium. Some people find they need to tone down liquid intake a bit. I think electrolyte intake shouldn't be that complicated, it's probably better to make your thyroid good so sodium and magnesium isn't lost. Good luck!!

3db91ab30a114f3283334eea4309d74d

(10)

on February 04, 2013
at 12:59 PM

What I want is to be able to just drink milk for calcium so im just going to stop w/ the egg shell. Also I have numbness and my hands and feet fall asleep or tingle a lot. which is a sign of eiher low mag and cal or low mag... I'm all confused.

3db91ab30a114f3283334eea4309d74d

(10)

on February 04, 2013
at 12:56 PM

I dont think its the milk that is causing me SPECIFICALLy to pee white, its the egg shell calcium + milk. Its just the calicum in general that is causing this.. So heres what I think i know: I think this is happening because of LACK of magnesium. Because when I take magnesium in abundance, my constipation gets much better and even my eyebrows become thicker, darker. So getting a lot more in my diet is very important. What I also know for a fact is that milk is making my scalp itchy, and that is what I need to figure out how to stop. Idk if its just a matter of taking more mag or....

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on February 04, 2013
at 11:30 AM

With adequate sugar intake it shouldn't be a problem, though the effect of coffee depends on how much you use, and that's something you gotta figure out for yourself. You can use fat-soluble vitamins topically if you want, it's safer. Are you sure the milk is turning your urine white? You say you also supplement eggshell calcium?

3db91ab30a114f3283334eea4309d74d

(10)

on February 04, 2013
at 12:20 AM

The only thing I worry about with coffee is its affect on the adrenals, but I eat lots of sea salt, so i dont see it being a problem. However, I've never drank coffee really in my life. Never had a need for it. I also just read that coffee can cause rather a magnesium deficiency? Any truth to that? How many MG's are we talking per cup here? What specific type of coffee? I'm going to make sure I take my vitamin D now daily..Ill have to look into getting good sources of K2.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on February 03, 2013
at 11:39 PM

No as alternative to treating cold / numb extremities. It is a good source of magnesium. As Brenjin says vitamin d and k2 are important especially in the winter.

3db91ab30a114f3283334eea4309d74d

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on February 03, 2013
at 10:19 PM

I eat liver once a week sometimes twice

3db91ab30a114f3283334eea4309d74d

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on February 03, 2013
at 10:18 PM

coffee as an alternative to calcium? wasn't aware coffee has calcium..

3db91ab30a114f3283334eea4309d74d

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on February 03, 2013
at 10:17 PM

My vitamin D level is lower in the upper 20's, and I haven't been supplementing it regularly like I should. I have NOW brand 5000 IU's that I can take. Im just unsure how to supplement all 3 of them together or apart or?

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9712e4ce885436e557751cfa6ffedd5a

(488)

on February 03, 2013
at 09:42 PM

What are your vitamin D levels like and how's your vitamin k2 and vitamin A intake?

Without either vitamin D or k2 calcium isn't appropriately used in the body and high levels of vitamin A antagonizes calcium's response to vitamin D.

3db91ab30a114f3283334eea4309d74d

(10)

on February 03, 2013
at 10:19 PM

I eat liver once a week sometimes twice

3db91ab30a114f3283334eea4309d74d

(10)

on February 03, 2013
at 10:17 PM

My vitamin D level is lower in the upper 20's, and I haven't been supplementing it regularly like I should. I have NOW brand 5000 IU's that I can take. Im just unsure how to supplement all 3 of them together or apart or?

0
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on February 27, 2013
at 06:41 PM

niacin will help open blood vessels and get more blood flowing to your extremities. ditch the dairy and i would recommend just taking one a day vitamin the one i take is alive max potency. i take 1000 mg of niacin chris shea

3db91ab30a114f3283334eea4309d74d

(10)

on February 27, 2013
at 09:00 PM

Well I might believe that, but when I plugged my diet into cronometer it said that my niacin intake was 300% daily value.. (56mg total) Is it okay to get that much more? If so, what brand would you recommend?

3db91ab30a114f3283334eea4309d74d

(10)

on February 27, 2013
at 09:00 PM

Well I might believe that, but when I plugged my diet into cronometer, it said that my niacin intake was 300% daily value.. (56mg total) Is it okay to get that much more? If so, what brand would you recommend?

0
B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on February 03, 2013
at 09:44 PM

Coffee is probably a safer alternative. Peat doesn't recommend many oral supps. If you get this from milk, you might wanna stop that at least gor a while.

3db91ab30a114f3283334eea4309d74d

(10)

on February 04, 2013
at 12:59 PM

What I want is to be able to just drink milk for calcium so im just going to stop w/ the egg shell. Also I have numbness and my hands and feet fall asleep or tingle a lot. which is a sign of eiher low mag and cal or low mag... I'm all confused.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on February 03, 2013
at 11:39 PM

No as alternative to treating cold / numb extremities. It is a good source of magnesium. As Brenjin says vitamin d and k2 are important especially in the winter.

3db91ab30a114f3283334eea4309d74d

(10)

on February 04, 2013
at 11:06 PM

Def have lactose intolerance. Headache and hair looks awful today from drinking milk again.. Im assuming there is no cure for lactose intolerance... Hard to get adequate protein w/out not eating muscle meats now.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on February 05, 2013
at 08:26 AM

Muscle meats are okay when balanced with gelatin. In hypothyroidism, lactase production is often compromized. It takes some time to adapt to lactose in your diet (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10812376). Your cold hands could be an indication of hypothyroidism, which can be the cause of bacterial overgrowth (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17698907). This, in turn, can cause problems with lactase (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1973395). Since the thyroid is so important for many processes (as illustrated by Broda Barnes), it might be good to check your temperature and pulse.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on February 04, 2013
at 11:30 AM

With adequate sugar intake it shouldn't be a problem, though the effect of coffee depends on how much you use, and that's something you gotta figure out for yourself. You can use fat-soluble vitamins topically if you want, it's safer. Are you sure the milk is turning your urine white? You say you also supplement eggshell calcium?

3db91ab30a114f3283334eea4309d74d

(10)

on February 07, 2013
at 10:32 PM

250-300 carbs..***

3db91ab30a114f3283334eea4309d74d

(10)

on February 04, 2013
at 12:56 PM

I dont think its the milk that is causing me SPECIFICALLy to pee white, its the egg shell calcium + milk. Its just the calicum in general that is causing this.. So heres what I think i know: I think this is happening because of LACK of magnesium. Because when I take magnesium in abundance, my constipation gets much better and even my eyebrows become thicker, darker. So getting a lot more in my diet is very important. What I also know for a fact is that milk is making my scalp itchy, and that is what I need to figure out how to stop. Idk if its just a matter of taking more mag or....

3db91ab30a114f3283334eea4309d74d

(10)

on February 03, 2013
at 10:18 PM

coffee as an alternative to calcium? wasn't aware coffee has calcium..

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on February 04, 2013
at 10:31 PM

Peat says one cup of coffee has 40mg magnesium though I don't have data right now (I'm on my mobile). I had urine problems when I took 15k iu of vitamin D and drank lots of milk. Because I was still fully in serotonin syndrome back then I tought I would die from it :). Still have serotonin syndrome but it's slightly improving. Social stress + excess substance use pretty much ruined my health, at least for now :D

3db91ab30a114f3283334eea4309d74d

(10)

on February 04, 2013
at 12:20 AM

The only thing I worry about with coffee is its affect on the adrenals, but I eat lots of sea salt, so i dont see it being a problem. However, I've never drank coffee really in my life. Never had a need for it. I also just read that coffee can cause rather a magnesium deficiency? Any truth to that? How many MG's are we talking per cup here? What specific type of coffee? I'm going to make sure I take my vitamin D now daily..Ill have to look into getting good sources of K2.

B0fe7b5a9a197cd293978150cbd9055f

(8938)

on February 04, 2013
at 10:27 PM

Tingles can be a lot of things, from intestinal irritation to deficiencies. It might correlate with temp and pulse (in my case it does though it's slightly more complicated). Peat never recommends eggshell if you're already getting calcium from dairy. If tolerated, orange juice, milk and chocolate provide generous amounts of magnesium. Some people find they need to tone down liquid intake a bit. I think electrolyte intake shouldn't be that complicated, it's probably better to make your thyroid good so sodium and magnesium isn't lost. Good luck!!

3db91ab30a114f3283334eea4309d74d

(10)

on February 07, 2013
at 10:31 PM

Okay, so take lots of great lakes geltain w/ muscle meats, and way more fruit/juice to give me carbohyrdate intake.. Thus improving thyroid function... Ive been donig this for 2 days now and man, I feel so much better.. Going to get my carb intake up to about 250-200mg per day and than try to reintroduce dairy again.. Thanks!

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