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Hack My living the definition of insanity

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Created April 07, 2012 at 1:51 PM

So, for 8 months I've been Paleo devoted. I have eaten 100% no cheats for about 6 months, and have recently tried Many different combinations from suggestions is Paleohackers- zero carb, high fat, low fat, low protein, every combination imaginable...

All with the hopes of maintaining a 30 lb weight loss from last year.

My weight and body composition has steadily been changing for the worse ever since I began this Paleo journey.

I realized this yesterday as I went to go try on a dress I would wear all the time last summer, and it barely fit, awkwardly squeaked over my now big thighs and legs and just looked ridiculous.

It made me realize that I am infact living the definition of insanity. Doing the same thing Over and over (Paleo) and expecting a different result (body composition improvements)...

I just don't know what to do next and where to go- if this is the wrong way of eating for me, how does one move away from here.. What does one do when it just truly, isn't working????

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on April 08, 2012
at 09:56 PM

The thing is, Paleo, if your clothes were from the time when you were underweight, they're not going to fit any more, and that's normal. You'd expect that, if you start moving to a healthier weight (which, in your case, probably would include an increase in body mass in hips and thighs), your clothes are going to fit differently, and you're going to need to consider a new wardrobe. Basing your size on the clothes you were wearing when you were underweight is self-sabotage of the worst kind.

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on April 08, 2012
at 08:28 PM

I agree, it would be hard to get an honest answer. A tape measure can't tell you if you are too thin. It can only tell you how you are compared to before. You could post a picture, but I understand that might be too uncomfortable. Maybe you could get a really accurate body fat measurement. Does anyone know how to get a DEXA cheap?

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on April 08, 2012
at 06:01 PM

"My (concept) made me healthy, ergo your (concept) must suck!" Totally defeats the purpose of n=1 experimentation.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on April 08, 2012
at 04:21 PM

I didn't know this person had an ED.

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on April 08, 2012
at 03:42 PM

Just noticed that it sounds somewhat complicated what I wrote. What I was trying to say was: if you live in a climate with 4 seasons who eat more/gain weight in the winter and eat less/lose weight in the summer, paleo or not.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 08, 2012
at 07:03 AM

VLC is sustainable. The only carbs I usually eat are leafy greens. I've been doing it for years and I do very physical work (concreting, block laying, digging etc) on construction sites 6 days a week (9+ hours per day just recently) at 51 years old and I also workout. I have visible abdominals and my bodyfat hovers around the 10-11% mark with no direct ab work or cardio. I usualy eat 3 meals per day and never fast unless I'm unwell. So it would seem that lean active people do not "need more carbs"

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 08, 2012
at 07:02 AM

VLC is sustainable. The only carbs I usually eat are leafy greens. I've been doing it for years and I do very physical work (concreting, block laying, digging etc) on construction sites 6 days a week (9+ hours per day just recently) at 51 years old and I also workout. I have visible abdominals and my bodyfay hovers around the 10-11% mark with no direct ab work or cardio. I usualy eat 3 meals per day and never fast unless I'm unwell. So it would seem that lean active people do not "need more carbs".

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on April 08, 2012
at 04:05 AM

Yeah, I don't know how sustainable it is. But I don't think VLC is sustainable either. I do think that if paleo isn't working, and your short term goal is improved body composition, then you should explore other avenues. again, VLC is only sustainable if you're not active and still overweight. IF you are active and not overweight, then swap the fats for carbs. Leaner people need more carbs than people who are heavier b/c they don't have reserves to mobilize for energy, whereas fat people have a reserve surplus. Thus, lean people need to take in more exogenous energy.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on April 08, 2012
at 02:02 AM

there's no famine coming soon or anything.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on April 08, 2012
at 02:01 AM

I guess I should have clarified with fatty red meat. i try to keep to leaner cuts. I just feel better with leaner cuts of it.

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on April 08, 2012
at 01:45 AM

Just person experience here but my body composition improved when dropping poultry and increasing red meat (far more complete nutrition, higher in fat and lower in excess protein, higher in omega 3s and entirely more satisfying).I could eat a whole chicken yet 1/2 a steak does me in.

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on April 07, 2012
at 11:37 PM

Tape measure is really handy--or maybe a not-so-close friend who will be honest with you.

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on April 07, 2012
at 09:28 PM

Forever, thank you that'd be amazing. [email protected] Greatly appreciated.

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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at 09:28 PM

Ambimorph, that is exactly what i've been trying. Asking my boyfriend if he sees the changes i see, and friends, but everyone treads so lightly because of my past that i can't get a clear answer. What does one do if they can't be sure they are seeing reality, but clothing is not fitting, what becomes the proper form of measuring?

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on April 07, 2012
at 08:27 PM

I have to agree with gydle, given your history of posts, eg. your concern about underweight, and lack of menstruation. I know how it feels to be dissatisfied with your body, but it's hard to tell from here if you have a distorted body image or not. Is there someone you trust to give you an honest opinion about that?

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on April 07, 2012
at 06:38 PM

Yeah. If you want I can send you a good diet that I use to lean up fast if you give me your email address. It's 95% strict paleo as a percentage calories, and far more paleo than many on here would consider themselves to be.

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on April 07, 2012
at 06:31 PM

Just wondering if perhaps continuing your Paleo diet, backing off any exercise (walking only) and focusing on doing some IF'ing forcing your body into ketosis, to fat burn.....just to see if perhaps it helps those areas....then again, if you loose elsewhere instead, targeting with exercise might be the only way?

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on April 07, 2012
at 05:34 PM

ah! didn't know that! very interesting, since i thought that going low carb was going to help me. but things have just gotten worse

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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at 05:33 PM

Gydle, the thing is, i stopped weighing myself, and havent in months, I am mor focused on improving body composition and feeling good. Currently i feel awful, heavy and sluggish, i feel tight in all my clothes not light on my feet. I used to feel like i wanted to run out the door for a 5km in the sun, and i no longer feel like that. More than that, i used to be excited to put on a bathing suit and soak up some Vit D, you couldn't pay me to be seen in a bikini now, my body has definitely changed for the worse, visibly. thats more my concern...definitely agree that i may have dipped to low befor

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on April 07, 2012
at 05:13 PM

cortisol can be elevated due to too much protein and too few carbs.

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on April 07, 2012
at 05:04 PM

I'm going to go out on a limb here - but the past time you posted you were wondering about the difference between an ED and paleo, and mentioned that your family/friends were concerned about you. Have you considered that perhaps the 30 pounds you lost were too many for your body? You're a tall person. A normal, healthy bodyweight for a 5'9" woman ranges quite widely.

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at 04:38 PM

Warren, it's my understanding that pre-competition eating for figure competitors is to get them down to a body-fat level that is unsustainable for the long term.

3b3a449b6705e9ec8b141d0bd07c1a64

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on April 07, 2012
at 04:32 PM

love the cats!!!

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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at 04:28 PM

I wish it was medical. I had a full hormonal panel done a few months ago and everything was normal except cortisol. which i have been working diligently to lower. Adaptogenic herbs and lots and lots of sleep. I stopped going out with friends, and put myself to bed for 9+ hrs of sleep for the past month

Af939911afa817f79a4625d4f503c735

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on April 07, 2012
at 03:47 PM

+1 on sleep and stress. Any supplements? Has anything changed in your *lifestyle* (not just your diet)?

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on April 07, 2012
at 02:57 PM

thanks ill check it out

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on April 07, 2012
at 02:47 PM

David - that is what i am wondering, if that plays a role - I lost the weight with a low fat, mod pro, low carb, LOW CAL diet..it was pretty intense- maybe i did it too quirky and now i am just destined to put it back on, despite lifestyle changes, increase in exercise, and complete diet overhaul?

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on April 07, 2012
at 02:42 PM

I track all my calories everyday and i am averaging 1300-1700 per day. 5'9 female..dont know my weight now, too scared to face it.

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on April 07, 2012
at 02:41 PM

Forever - i havent eaten a piece of fruit in 6 months or dairy since i began paleo. the limiting red meat and egg yolk is interesting...maybe i should try that

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on April 07, 2012
at 02:40 PM

I think the main question here is 'what were you eating pre-paleo (when you lost the weight)?'

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on April 07, 2012
at 02:39 PM

Foever- i workout 6 days a week, long low intensity incline walks, with a few sprints mixed in, and other days body weight resistance, and HIIT mixed in. I could do two workouts a day maybe? And i agree, that maybe i should consider basing it off of a fitness competitor diet...i think i'll try that

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on April 07, 2012
at 02:38 PM

Kelly, it is some muscle, but mostly just mass, i mean i had my boy fat checked and it was like 20% which is normal, but me lower body just keeps getting bigger with no definition, which looks like i am just fatter. @Ralph - i do actually, i count every drop and crumb and put it into an online calorie counter, i was eye balling portions for a while, but maybe going back to weighing everything is the only way? It's just no way to live though, last time i devoted myself to weighing all my food, i became a reclusive isolated person, thats why i stopped. but maybe that is the only option.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on April 07, 2012
at 02:37 PM

That is a great recommendation for you. The ebook only costs 10 bucks.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on April 07, 2012
at 02:33 PM

I know people who eat like this all of the time. During "off season" they add in things like fruit and low fat dairy. Never eat butter though, and eat very small quantities of egg yolks.

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on April 07, 2012
at 02:28 PM

Are you counting calories? Weighing/measuring food intake and tracking? I know that my process is not widely accepted here, but I find that I'm most successful when I pay fairly close attention to my intake. If I eat bacon, nuts, fatty cuts of meat slathered in Kerry Gold butter, etc. "to satiety" my body composition would change for the worse. I have a measuring cup, a table spoon, and a small digital scale. It's a piece of cake and I absolutely don’t obsess over it. Keeps me in tune with what I am actually eating, rather than what I think I am eating.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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at 02:19 PM

Why do figure competitors only eat like that in preperation for competitions? Why don't they eat like that all the time?

345c1755efe005edd162b770dc6fb821

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on April 07, 2012
at 02:14 PM

are you saying that your thighs/legs are bigger muscular or fat? Just curious if you are over exercising and building too much muscle in that area?

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21b36b3de8ff31b0d41e7f0f4b5c1e03

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on April 07, 2012
at 02:44 PM

I've found that since starting paleo I need around 200 fewer calories a day than before. My weight went up when I stayed at my previous caloric level. I'm not sure why, I think it might have to do with fat and protein digesting more completely than all the high fiber carb food I used to eat a lot of (oat bran etc).

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4ccf5d9bba64e54fc95802fe8ae33c47

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on April 07, 2012
at 04:21 PM

I'm also female, 53yo, and paleo since early last summer, so about the same time. I'm not overweight, never was, and always lose weight in the summer, gain in the winter, all my clothes incl. bras, panties, pants are in 2-3 different sizes. Last summer I lost alot more weight than usual, actually too much, got better after I added back more carbs into my diet. I never weigh myself, haven't in decades, just notice from how my clothes fit. So last fall after being paleo a few months I thought I wouldn't gain again in the winter. Well, here I am again at my usual "spring weight", larger size, but with a slightly different body composition. I didn't gain my wheat belly back, and I'm in my fifties. Depending on where you live, what kind of seasons you have it is normal to gain several pounds in the winter. Even my cats do that, they are also paleo, but eat a ton in fall/winter and hardly anything in the summer.

3b3a449b6705e9ec8b141d0bd07c1a64

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on April 07, 2012
at 04:32 PM

love the cats!!!

4ccf5d9bba64e54fc95802fe8ae33c47

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on April 08, 2012
at 03:42 PM

Just noticed that it sounds somewhat complicated what I wrote. What I was trying to say was: if you live in a climate with 4 seasons who eat more/gain weight in the winter and eat less/lose weight in the summer, paleo or not.

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076aefc04dc660161475c1b5f61fae86

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on April 07, 2012
at 03:38 PM

Sounds like something else might be going on. Have you had a medical evaluation? Could be thyroid issues.

There is more to weight loss than diet. Are getting enough sleep? How's your stress levels?

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on April 07, 2012
at 05:34 PM

ah! didn't know that! very interesting, since i thought that going low carb was going to help me. but things have just gotten worse

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 07, 2012
at 05:13 PM

cortisol can be elevated due to too much protein and too few carbs.

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

(871)

on April 07, 2012
at 04:28 PM

I wish it was medical. I had a full hormonal panel done a few months ago and everything was normal except cortisol. which i have been working diligently to lower. Adaptogenic herbs and lots and lots of sleep. I stopped going out with friends, and put myself to bed for 9+ hrs of sleep for the past month

Af939911afa817f79a4625d4f503c735

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on April 07, 2012
at 03:47 PM

+1 on sleep and stress. Any supplements? Has anything changed in your *lifestyle* (not just your diet)?

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on April 07, 2012
at 02:25 PM

I recommend reading Anthony Colpo's Fat Loss Bible. Despite it's somewhat hyperbolic title, it's the truth and approaches the issue from a paleo approach.

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on April 07, 2012
at 02:57 PM

thanks ill check it out

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on April 07, 2012
at 02:37 PM

That is a great recommendation for you. The ebook only costs 10 bucks.

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5af4a091360823d02c3ea2ffe4a71593

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on April 07, 2012
at 03:43 PM

I read just read that an imbalance of your estrogen metabolism can cause fat store on buttocks and legs. You can reduce this by balancing your estrogen again, for example with DIM (Diindolylmethane). DIM is a component which is found in vegetable including broccoli, brussels sprouts, cauliflower and other types of cabbage. I read it on a dutch blog: http://jessevandervelde.com/plaatselijk-vet-verbranden-op-benen-en-billen-wel-of-niet-mogelijk/
But have to say, he doesn't use scientific references, so don't know where he gets his info from.

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on April 09, 2012
at 04:39 PM

Bigger doesn't mean fatter and it isn't always clear at first that it is muscle. I have noticed that my entire body is larger after going primal, but it is really solid now. At first I thought I was gaining weight in my thighs, but when I squat down and raise my toes and feel my thighs, it is all just muscle (even though it doesn't look like ripped muscles when I am just standing in front of a mirror). I think I have been under-muscled for most of my life and now that I am getting adequate protein, I am actually gaining muscle I should have had all along. This has resulted in my pants being tighter around my thighs and butt but I feel powerful and strong and I LOVE it. I would rather have this solid body and be a size or two larger than go back to being the "thin girl" that popular culture celebrates. I might have been super thin pre-paleo, but I look back on pictures and see a mushy little waif in desperate need of a ribeye.

If you have noticed an increase in body fat and definitely not muscle, then I would ask the community if maybe yo-yoing through all the different iterations of paleo might have a negative effect on your body? Also, what is your exercise routine? And give us some numbers! I also have a sneaking suspicion that you might be being tougher on yourself about weight than you should be...

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on April 08, 2012
at 04:15 PM

I understand that you have had an ED in the past (and good for you for doing the hard work to feel more healthy about your relationship with food-that's challenging and positive stuff!)

It's almost my understanding that, once you have done heavy dieting/ED behavior, your metabolism can be pretty wacky for a while. I wonder if you may just have to eat the food that feels healthy for your body, and then try to be patient while your metabolism readjusts. I'm not an ED expert, but I have the sense that it's a long term and gradual process--that once your body thinks that its starving, it slows down the metabolism to try to keep you alive. Makes sense evolutionarily, but very frustrating when you're trying to get to a weight that feels like the right balance for you.

Good luck!

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on April 08, 2012
at 04:21 PM

I didn't know this person had an ED.

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on April 08, 2012
at 03:54 AM

I too gained weight on Paleo, twice! My husband has lost weight and is doing and feeling better than ever on Paleo. I felt fine but my weight never dropped and went up quite a few pounds. My legs and thighs too got much bigger. I know that I was eating the "right Paleo way" because it was and is still working for my husband. He is THRIVING on it! YEARS ago I read a book titled "Eating for your blood type" I have not thought about this book in over 10 years until I saw that Paleo was affecting him and I differently. He is type O and I am type A blood. I know this sounds crazy but according to that book type O's do better on meat and type A's do better on fruits and veggies. I COULD BE COMPLETELY WRONG BUT IT DOES SEEM THAT WAY FOR MY HUBBY AND I! I am now back on Weight Watchers and I focus on lean meats,veggies and fruits. I am now finally losing again.

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on April 07, 2012
at 04:21 PM

Depending on what your diet was like, Pre-Paleo, you are likely seeing your hormones re-balance as you nourish your body with real food.

I am assuming you are avoiding all meat, farmed fish & dairy with growth hormones/antibiotics?

Is your Vitamin D sufficient?

How is your zinc intake?

Patience and perhaps a consult with a paleo-friendly naturopath are in order.

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77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 07, 2012
at 02:21 PM

It would seem that you are eating too much.
How is your energy?

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on April 07, 2012
at 02:42 PM

I track all my calories everyday and i am averaging 1300-1700 per day. 5'9 female..dont know my weight now, too scared to face it.

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1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

on April 07, 2012
at 02:17 PM

carbohydrate cylcing is also helpful, and maintaining a WEEKLY caloric deficit is critical. Cutting out fruit and dairy is also helpful, and limiting red meat and egg yolk consumption as well. If you want to improve body composition quickly while still remaining paleo, these tips should be of use.

IF you don't think paleo is it for you then so be it. Maybe you could do a figure competitor like diet for a few months to really get into solid condition, and then return to paleo once you've reached your composition goals? I'm just trying to be practical. I hope this helps. Oh, and mindset is critical for any fitness goal as well. you have to believe you can do it.

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on April 07, 2012
at 02:41 PM

Forever - i havent eaten a piece of fruit in 6 months or dairy since i began paleo. the limiting red meat and egg yolk is interesting...maybe i should try that

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on April 07, 2012
at 09:28 PM

Forever, thank you that'd be amazing. [email protected] Greatly appreciated.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on April 07, 2012
at 06:38 PM

Yeah. If you want I can send you a good diet that I use to lean up fast if you give me your email address. It's 95% strict paleo as a percentage calories, and far more paleo than many on here would consider themselves to be.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on April 08, 2012
at 02:01 AM

I guess I should have clarified with fatty red meat. i try to keep to leaner cuts. I just feel better with leaner cuts of it.

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on April 08, 2012
at 01:45 AM

Just person experience here but my body composition improved when dropping poultry and increasing red meat (far more complete nutrition, higher in fat and lower in excess protein, higher in omega 3s and entirely more satisfying).I could eat a whole chicken yet 1/2 a steak does me in.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on April 08, 2012
at 02:02 AM

there's no famine coming soon or anything.

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1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

on April 07, 2012
at 02:09 PM

You may just need to exercise more?

Try looking at how natural figure athletes prepare for competitions. They eat things like whey protein, egg whites, almonds, avocado, oats, sweet potatoes, very little fruit, and lots of green veggies spaced out in intervals of 2-3 hours. It will improve body composition naturally, which will have many health benefits in and of itself.

For instance, a figure competitor might eat this - 3-6 egg white omelet with 1/2C oats cooked in water * workout with weights and 10 minutes of cardio - whey protein shake and an apple - tuna with veggies - low or nonfat cottage cheese with almonds - chicken with brown rice and broccoli - casein protein shake

It is different than paleo but it is not all that unhealthy. Whatever unhealthy aspects there are to it may be overshadowed by the health benefits of dropping fat and improving body composition.

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 07, 2012
at 02:19 PM

Why do figure competitors only eat like that in preperation for competitions? Why don't they eat like that all the time?

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

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on April 08, 2012
at 07:03 AM

VLC is sustainable. The only carbs I usually eat are leafy greens. I've been doing it for years and I do very physical work (concreting, block laying, digging etc) on construction sites 6 days a week (9+ hours per day just recently) at 51 years old and I also workout. I have visible abdominals and my bodyfat hovers around the 10-11% mark with no direct ab work or cardio. I usualy eat 3 meals per day and never fast unless I'm unwell. So it would seem that lean active people do not "need more carbs"

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on April 07, 2012
at 04:38 PM

Warren, it's my understanding that pre-competition eating for figure competitors is to get them down to a body-fat level that is unsustainable for the long term.

59ee717de524f921efb7f2984157339f

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on April 07, 2012
at 02:39 PM

Foever- i workout 6 days a week, long low intensity incline walks, with a few sprints mixed in, and other days body weight resistance, and HIIT mixed in. I could do two workouts a day maybe? And i agree, that maybe i should consider basing it off of a fitness competitor diet...i think i'll try that

77877f762c40637911396daa19b53094

(78467)

on April 08, 2012
at 07:02 AM

VLC is sustainable. The only carbs I usually eat are leafy greens. I've been doing it for years and I do very physical work (concreting, block laying, digging etc) on construction sites 6 days a week (9+ hours per day just recently) at 51 years old and I also workout. I have visible abdominals and my bodyfay hovers around the 10-11% mark with no direct ab work or cardio. I usualy eat 3 meals per day and never fast unless I'm unwell. So it would seem that lean active people do not "need more carbs".

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

(14952)

on April 07, 2012
at 02:33 PM

I know people who eat like this all of the time. During "off season" they add in things like fruit and low fat dairy. Never eat butter though, and eat very small quantities of egg yolks.

1edb06ded9ccf098a4517ca4a7a34ebc

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on April 08, 2012
at 04:05 AM

Yeah, I don't know how sustainable it is. But I don't think VLC is sustainable either. I do think that if paleo isn't working, and your short term goal is improved body composition, then you should explore other avenues. again, VLC is only sustainable if you're not active and still overweight. IF you are active and not overweight, then swap the fats for carbs. Leaner people need more carbs than people who are heavier b/c they don't have reserves to mobilize for energy, whereas fat people have a reserve surplus. Thus, lean people need to take in more exogenous energy.

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on April 08, 2012
at 06:01 PM

"My (concept) made me healthy, ergo your (concept) must suck!" Totally defeats the purpose of n=1 experimentation.

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