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GOMAD with Goat's Milk (GOGMAD)?

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Created November 15, 2011 at 2:58 AM

Yes not technically paleo...but we all know where that argument leads.

Has anyone tried the GOMAD protocol with good results? Ever thought of trying it with goat's milk? I tolerate dairy very well, and have basically no ill-effects whatsoever from goat's milk. Is it incredibly detrimental in the long-run to my gut health?

I'm lacto-paleo, and have a hard time gaining weight, even eating prodigious amounts of protein and carbs PWO. The only drawback I can see is the cost.

I also eat in a leangains style with a 16/8 approach, and hope that because of this I will be less likely to gain BF. I suppose I'll just have to try it and report back.

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on November 15, 2011
at 06:54 PM

Its basically all lean mass

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on November 15, 2011
at 06:00 PM

How is the fat to lean muscle mass ratio in your gains?

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on November 15, 2011
at 05:36 PM

I would think GOMAD would be too hard to do with an IFing diet. I'm not sure off the top of my head, but I'm pretty sure the human stomach does not hold anywhere near a gallon. I can barely get 1 1/2 lbs of steak down in one sitting, there's no way I could drink half a gallon, let alone a full gallon. But I do a 23-35:1 fast to feast ratio, so if you're doing 16/8 it might be possible.

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on November 15, 2011
at 04:50 PM

Definitely agree with Stephen-Aegis on the fasting. It's been a pretty amazing way to live for me so far. Even when I cheat, I never really see awful consequences except for maybe the way I feel...I chalk that up to autophagy and increased metabolism I guess.

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on November 15, 2011
at 02:31 PM

I would do it again. Like other n=1 experiments, you will only know if you try it and see what it does or does not do for you.

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on November 15, 2011
at 02:30 PM

Certain GI distress. Gas. Bloating. Diarrhea. It wasn't constant but I experienced these effects throughout the approximate 2 month period. I of course gained some amount of fat, but when I started, I was 150 lbs at 6 feet tall and too lean (IMO). I have no goals of being super lean as it tends to trigger past eating disorders. I am now 175 lbs, much stronger than I was, can run just as fast in a 5k and probably at about 13-15% bodyfat (guesstimate). I don't have a 6 pack of abs but don't want them. You won't get much support in this forum for GOMAD, but if faced with the decision...

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on November 15, 2011
at 02:04 PM

The window is about hormonal effect. I did my muscle gain with a 22/2 feasting fasting ratio. Eating all day never lets your body recover, constantly sending blood/immune response to gut, less energy for rest/recovery/growth. If you're getting more calories than you need for maintenance, you'll grow regardless of how often you consume. My n=1, the less often I ate, same calories, the less went to my gut. Intermittent fasting is amazing.

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on November 15, 2011
at 12:09 PM

I did GOMAD with whole cows milk for a month with 3-4 days a week of weight training. It resulted in a 10 lb weight gain but with the majority of the visible bulk going around my midsection. Even worse, my energy level was terrible. What is your reasoning for the 16/8 eating timing, it seems to be at odds with your overall goal of gaining. I don't know the specific macros of goat milk but I would worry it includes a lot more sugar than you are currently consuming. I would just open your feeding window and go for 5-6 high protein meals daily instead.

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on November 15, 2011
at 09:31 AM

Even more for those of us on this side of the pond. Almost a full litre more! 1 Imperial gallon = 4.54609188 litres

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on November 15, 2011
at 09:30 AM

Even more for those of us on this side of the pond. Almost a full litre more! **1 Imperial gallon = 4.54609188 litres** :: **1 US gallon = 3.78541178 litres**.

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on November 15, 2011
at 06:53 AM

Fuck me (pardon my French)! I only just worked out how much 1 gallon is. 3.78 litres. Are you for real? I don't drink that milk in a week.

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on November 15, 2011
at 06:46 AM

Never had allergies in my life. I would just experiment, if they come back you can always get rid of it or try switching up other stuff.

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on November 15, 2011
at 06:35 AM

Did you ever have seasonal allergies? I cut out gluten, sugar and dairy all at the same time when I went Paleo, and my allergies disappeared. They were pretty awful, and I worry a bit about them coming back. I'm inclined to think it was the gluten and sigar causing them though, as I've been slowly adding in dairy, and haven't had a problem so far with butter, ghee, heavy cream or cheese.

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on November 15, 2011
at 04:31 AM

I don't normally drink milk, but I do eat alot of butter, cheese and drink my fair share of heavy cream. I've been drinking goat's milk for the past week or two, and haven't noticed any ill-effects.

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on November 15, 2011
at 04:19 AM

How much Milk do you drink now? While I do not drink Goats milk my regular post workout drink is 1L of milk, which I have found has increased my overall strength and recovery better than anything else. Some days I drink more, some days I drink less. I guess it really depends on your goal, but I would not recommend just diving into a full gallon if you do not consume any amount of milk on a regular basis. Start slow, see what works for you.

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on November 15, 2011
at 03:59 AM

blew up your stomach in terms of GI distress? Did you notice fat accumulation?

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E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

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on November 15, 2011
at 05:25 AM

I've been gomading for a month or 2 now and before that I was drinking about a half gallon for a couple months. I personally love the convenience of milk and the cheapness of it, the fact that its loaded with nutrients and is a muscle building super food is a just a plus. At this point I see no reason to stop drinking a gallon a day anytime in the near future. If you tolerate dairy i say go for it, I have yet to see any major drawbacks.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on November 15, 2011
at 06:46 AM

Never had allergies in my life. I would just experiment, if they come back you can always get rid of it or try switching up other stuff.

Medium avatar

(5639)

on November 15, 2011
at 06:00 PM

How is the fat to lean muscle mass ratio in your gains?

Medium avatar

(5639)

on November 15, 2011
at 06:35 AM

Did you ever have seasonal allergies? I cut out gluten, sugar and dairy all at the same time when I went Paleo, and my allergies disappeared. They were pretty awful, and I worry a bit about them coming back. I'm inclined to think it was the gluten and sigar causing them though, as I've been slowly adding in dairy, and haven't had a problem so far with butter, ghee, heavy cream or cheese.

E5c7f14800c5992831f5c70fa746dc5c

(12857)

on November 15, 2011
at 06:54 PM

Its basically all lean mass

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072fd69647b0e765bb4b11532569f16d

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on November 15, 2011
at 03:16 AM

I never got all the way to a full gallon. Just before turning to the Paleo diet, I went on the milk weight-gain diet, as I was significantly underweight and had tried other approaches that did not work. It blew my gut up at the time, and I only made it up to a half gallon or so a day of whole milk. I did gain about 12 lbs in 2 months. Ultimately, what I found was that it helped my body adapt to consuming an increased amount of calories. When I stopped drinking the milk, I was hungrier for more food than I was previously. I tried goat's milk, lactose free-milk, and seemingly every other option. It all blew my stomach up. It was probably the significant fat intake, rather than lactose, but I cannot say that for certain.

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on November 15, 2011
at 03:59 AM

blew up your stomach in terms of GI distress? Did you notice fat accumulation?

072fd69647b0e765bb4b11532569f16d

(3717)

on November 15, 2011
at 02:30 PM

Certain GI distress. Gas. Bloating. Diarrhea. It wasn't constant but I experienced these effects throughout the approximate 2 month period. I of course gained some amount of fat, but when I started, I was 150 lbs at 6 feet tall and too lean (IMO). I have no goals of being super lean as it tends to trigger past eating disorders. I am now 175 lbs, much stronger than I was, can run just as fast in a 5k and probably at about 13-15% bodyfat (guesstimate). I don't have a 6 pack of abs but don't want them. You won't get much support in this forum for GOMAD, but if faced with the decision...

072fd69647b0e765bb4b11532569f16d

(3717)

on November 15, 2011
at 02:31 PM

I would do it again. Like other n=1 experiments, you will only know if you try it and see what it does or does not do for you.

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on November 15, 2011
at 11:49 AM

A Gallon Of Milk A Day (GOMAD) is something made up for skinny hardgainer teenagers who simply do not know how to eat enough to grow. If you're everything else but a raging fat burning skinny teenager I'd advise against it.

Unless you really want to gain as fastest fat as you can possibly can in the shortest amount of time.

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