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Food combining versus Paleo..anyone?

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created June 20, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Ok, this is making some headway now, and I have mixed feelings about it (no pun intended), so please share not only your thoughts but experiences too. Any believers in this out there? When I say food combining, if I understand this correctly, I mean cooked versus raw food; vegetables and fruit versus meats/protein, etc. As I understand there is a large following even in the holistic medicinal comunity which believes that meals should be kept exclusive and not mixed.Lay it on me.

Edit: Perhaps I didnt pose the core of my question correctly, and it still remains unanswered. Is there an upper edge to keeping these foods separate (as in separate meals) versus mixing them together, as these holistic approach folks claim? ...aaaand if so, can someone please tell me about their experience(s) why so, and how they benefited from this by comparison?...

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on June 23, 2012
at 01:57 AM

You said everything I was trying to, Amy B. :)

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on June 23, 2012
at 01:55 AM

re: the melons -- I have to go looking for actual reasons, holistically it is said that combining melons poorly leads to subtle and cumulative digestive disorders. Haven't done the research on that. In terms of enzymes -- I would start with trying to make your digestion stronger, not dependent, so say an Indian herbal complex like Trikatu might be useful for a time. Enzymes are helpful and important, but they can become a burden too.

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on June 22, 2012
at 04:25 AM

Why are melons best on their own?

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on June 22, 2012
at 04:25 AM

Completely agree :-)

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on June 22, 2012
at 03:24 AM

It's called "food combining", not "food mixing", hence my edit. Hopefully you will get some feedback now.

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on June 22, 2012
at 03:18 AM

Thanks, Amy. The candid fasjion of your response is awesome, its something I seek in all answers. Perhaps I didnt pose the core of my question correctly, and it still remains unanswered. Is there an upper edge to keeping these foods separate (as in separate meals) versus mixing them together, as these holistic approach folks claim? ...aaaand if so, cansomeone please tell me about their experience(s) why so...

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on June 21, 2012
at 03:56 AM

Thanks, Lindsay. I did hear a holistic Doc speak about this on his radio show, forgot his name. If I may so, piggy back another question off the one above then (for you and everyone else)...How do you feel about these digestive enzyme supplements these holistic docs suggest?

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Eea4c0f072bb5caa74c1fbe6dfab5f46

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on June 21, 2012
at 01:50 AM

This has become popular in holistic health circles, but it is often due to a compromised digestion already. This is an indication to pay closer attention, cuz if your digestion is strong, you should be able to metabolize all manner of various combinations. However, if you're feeling stagnant or experiencing discomfort when eating, look at what combos may be causing this and find out whether it's an organ issue, elimination, absorption or enzymatic.

For example, let's say you notice discomfort when you eat certain fats, this may be a liver congestion issue and it may be necessary to support that/cleanse. Maybe it's a lymph issue, or you're constipated, etc. or you're not chewing your food well enough to coat with the proper enzymes.

Base rules however, if you're wanting to play around with it: fruit is best with fruit. Melons are said to be best on their own. It's always good to have a little bit of raw with your cooked food, i.e. a little bit of salad, as is traditional in most houses (I'm guessing?)

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on June 22, 2012
at 04:25 AM

Why are melons best on their own?

0d892cb232c3c7d59699fd10c995595a

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on June 21, 2012
at 03:56 AM

Thanks, Lindsay. I did hear a holistic Doc speak about this on his radio show, forgot his name. If I may so, piggy back another question off the one above then (for you and everyone else)...How do you feel about these digestive enzyme supplements these holistic docs suggest?

Eea4c0f072bb5caa74c1fbe6dfab5f46

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on June 23, 2012
at 01:55 AM

re: the melons -- I have to go looking for actual reasons, holistically it is said that combining melons poorly leads to subtle and cumulative digestive disorders. Haven't done the research on that. In terms of enzymes -- I would start with trying to make your digestion stronger, not dependent, so say an Indian herbal complex like Trikatu might be useful for a time. Enzymes are helpful and important, but they can become a burden too.

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Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on June 22, 2012
at 03:29 AM

I think this is total B.S.

I can't imagine any hunter-gatherer thinking "Oh, I can't have my honey now, I just ate some wild boar."

I suspect the problem is more likely unrecognized FODMAPS-intolerance.

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on June 22, 2012
at 04:25 AM

Completely agree :-)

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on June 21, 2012
at 02:14 PM

Hmm...

Not sure about the food mixing issue in terms of keeping meat and veg separate, or eating fruit by itself. But as for the raw/cooked combining issue, the WAPF recommends that as often as possible, your meals consist of something cooked, something raw, and something fermented. (Some people call fermented veg and fruit "super raw," because they actually contain health/nutritional benefits above and beyond raw...aside from the live enzymes there are probiotics and the bacteria actually increase the content of certain vitamins.)

The book Enzyme Nutrition by Edward Howell is awesome. A lost gem from the old days. He does a good job of explaining that eating at least some of your food raw is very good for digestion. The stomach consists of three sections. In the upper section, not a whole lot of digestion goes on. The muscular churning (physical digestion) and enzymatic (chemical) digestion happen lower down. When food comes into that upper portion with its own enzymes still intact, they essentially start to "pre-digest" it.

I'm not explaining it very well, but he does in the book, and it makes a lot of sense. (Much more than what I've explained poorly.)

As for salads, like Lindsay suggested, salads used to proceed meals because they were made up mostly of bitter greens, which stimulate digestive juices. Not sure the same holds true for iceberg lettuce doused in thousand island, hehheh.

I don't think there's a whole lot to the "no fruit with meat" thing. I've heard a lot about fruit staying in the stomach or gut longer and fermenting, or the protein putrefying. I dunno. Call me crazy, but come fall and winter, there are few meals more enjoyable than something like a pork loin stuffed with apricots and raisins. Or how about beef roasts with blackberry sauce? Brisket with carrot tzimmis (usually contains raisins, prunes, or some other sweet, dried fruit) on the side for a Jewish holiday. I feel like there are a lot of classic dishes that combine meat and fruit. In tropical areas, don't they do a lot of fish with fresh mango salsa type entrees? Not saying these are ideal for human health, but human society/culture would be missing something without them.

0d892cb232c3c7d59699fd10c995595a

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on June 22, 2012
at 03:18 AM

Thanks, Amy. The candid fasjion of your response is awesome, its something I seek in all answers. Perhaps I didnt pose the core of my question correctly, and it still remains unanswered. Is there an upper edge to keeping these foods separate (as in separate meals) versus mixing them together, as these holistic approach folks claim? ...aaaand if so, cansomeone please tell me about their experience(s) why so...

Eea4c0f072bb5caa74c1fbe6dfab5f46

(942)

on June 23, 2012
at 01:57 AM

You said everything I was trying to, Amy B. :)

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