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Experiences with Personal Paleo Code by Chris Kresser?

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Created November 27, 2011 at 11:30 AM

There's a recently released a package of ebooks and online tools called Personal Paleo Code, authored by Chris Kresser. According to the marketing material: "I???ve condensed over 10 years and thousands of hours of research and my experience working with hundreds of patients into a simple ??? yet highly effective ??? 3-step approach that will help you discover your own ideal diet and finally end confusion about what to eat."

The material is a bit light on details despite its infomercial-like verbosity, but it appears there are a couple of workbooks, and an online-only tool for progress tracking. There is a meal planner (which requires a monthly subscription fee). There is an endorsement from Robb Wolf, but it refers to Kresser himself instead of the software.

At $97 it's not cheap, but there's a 30-day money-back guarantee - just like in infomercials. Does anyone have any experience with this, or Chris Kresser's credentials or products?

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on August 09, 2012
at 06:21 PM

How did it work out, Janja? For the meal plans, do they have you cooking everyday or can you work it out for a one day cooking marathon?

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(5152)

on April 08, 2012
at 03:07 AM

Actually Chris does not really pratcie acupuncutre. He practices integrative medicine that's closer to holistic or alternative medicine. His acupuncturist license allows him to write scripts for blood orders and stuff, my understanding is he really doesn't do it. He's an "alternative doctor", someone to turn to when conventional medicine has no answer. Juding him based on his podcasts and his blog, I have more confidence in him than any conventional doctor that I've seen so far.

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on April 08, 2012
at 02:02 AM

I didn't have a great experience with him at all. I spent a lot of money and don't feel I learned anything helpful. I absolutely felt that he was just in it to get $$ and give the same canned answers to everyone. He debited my account the second time without telling me how much it was going to be. Just asked, so I think you need blah tests and blah supplements... and I said ok, thinking he would send me an invoice or I would get them or something... no... debited $300. I will not go back.

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on April 07, 2012
at 03:41 PM

"He requires large ($400+ amounts of money to be paid weeks prior to consultations and hits you with legal contracts claiming the right to debit your account pretty much as he sees fit immediately after a consult." Without actually knowing his business practices, I'll theorize that he has to protect himself from lost time and money due to people cancelling appointments and such. I imagine your second bit about the legal contracts is probably a protection from people refusing to pay consultation fees. Upfront charging is still weird though.

65125edd5aafad39b3d5b3a8b4a36bb7

(6082)

on April 07, 2012
at 03:36 PM

"Don't forget his first aim is to make money if he sells it for $97." That is highly cynical and makes the tacit suggestion that people with valuable skills or advice do not deserve to be compensated for their time, effort, and costs of training and education.

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on February 15, 2012
at 07:39 PM

Link to another person's experiences with Chris Kresser. http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1664-chris-kresser-and-healing-gut-problems/

A19889c733bd1d30d3e0be81f1bd2079

on February 15, 2012
at 07:37 PM

Link to another person's experiences with him http://survivingantidepressants.org/index.php?/topic/1664-chris-kresser-and-healing-gut-problems/page__p__15698__hl__kresser__fromsearch__1#entry15698

A19889c733bd1d30d3e0be81f1bd2079

on February 15, 2012
at 07:21 PM

I've not tried his Personal Paleo code but am in the early stages of consulting with him directly. Whilst I have been really really impressed by his research and work on the web, I'm finding his business practices at best extremely aggressive and at worst alarming. He requires large ($400+ amounts of money to be paid weeks prior to consultations and hits you with legal contracts claiming the right to debit your account pretty much as he sees fit immediately after a consult. Am cautiously continuing but alarm bells. I've also found someone else online recently speak of similar concerns.

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on January 04, 2012
at 08:02 PM

What is "astroturfer?"

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(14)

on December 21, 2011
at 10:13 PM

How can I prove I am not? :)

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on December 21, 2011
at 11:21 AM

First and only comment praising a product - astroturfer unless proven otherwise.

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on December 15, 2011
at 10:51 PM

I have heard Kresser on some of his podcasts and then on www.undergroundwellness.com He has solid information and is a natural path. I don't know him personally but he seems to have a heart for wanting to help others health. Check out his podcasts on Itunes, they are free and lots to learn. Good luck with your Paleo site! Mark markepierce1@gmail.com

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on December 01, 2011
at 08:55 AM

matthew, u seem so smart and brilliant??!??? except when you spout cw... being contrare seems so... steve parker!!

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on November 30, 2011
at 05:33 PM

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org is a great site. You will get down votes if you are critical of the crazy stuff here. Powdered rhino horn and tigers testicles anyone?

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on November 30, 2011
at 05:32 PM

www.sciencebasedmedicine.org is a great site. You will get down votes if you are critical of the crazy stuff here. Powdered rhino horn and tigers testicles anyone?

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on November 30, 2011
at 05:32 PM

sciencebasedmedicine.org is a great site. You will get down votes if you are critical of the crazy stuff here. Powdered rhino horn and tigers testicles anyone?

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on November 30, 2011
at 05:31 PM

www.sciencebasedmedicine.com is a great site. You will get down votes if you are critical of the crazy stuff here. Powdered rhino horn and tigers testicles anyone?

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on November 30, 2011
at 05:31 PM

sciencebasedmedicine.com is a great site. You will get down votes if you are critical of the crazy stuff here. Powdered rhino horn and tigers testicles anyone?

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on November 30, 2011
at 05:19 AM

who funds thwt website??! ebm is Big pharma which i dont trust further than I can throw it.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on November 30, 2011
at 05:18 AM

I entirely disagree. several pubmed articles and studies show value even thoug western medicine do not explain why it works. one downvote Parker.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on November 30, 2011
at 05:16 AM

one downvote Parker.

792634a784ec6a636c3137d0903e11b4

(1196)

on November 28, 2011
at 08:56 PM

I should add that the introduction includes sweeteners like maple syrup etc, and starches - it's really just focused on getting people into whole foods to start with, then refining according to what's needed. It's a good process and achievable for most people - esp not hitting the 'deprivation' button of no sweets and low or VL carb

792634a784ec6a636c3137d0903e11b4

(1196)

on November 28, 2011
at 08:54 PM

+1 mem, that's exactly what I saw in it. If I'd had it at the beginning of the year it might have really helped me.

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(1196)

on November 28, 2011
at 08:52 PM

Stacey, Yes I do think it's good for someone like your Mum. I would also recommend it for someone in the place I was at the beginning of the year who is feeling really sick and wanting help to get through that - especially if there are problem foods among the 'usual' paleo fare. It was my own process of elimination that identified all nut and dairy products, an excess of FODMAPS etc. If I'd had the PPC at that point I'd have been a happy camper!

Cdee7454bccdc4ac14ec23b9657eb573

(1239)

on November 28, 2011
at 02:12 PM

OK, I'll make it easier for those interested in the science (or lack thereof) behind acupuncture. Just click through and read: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/reference/?p=34 And Chinese medicine: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/reference/?cat=24 And for extra credit, quackademic medicine: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/reference/?cat=15 I'm just saying that if someone tells me they believe in astrology or phrenology, I take everything else they say with a grain of salt. -Steve

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on November 28, 2011
at 04:17 AM

But wait...there's more!

F5f742cc9228eb5804114d0f3be4e587

(7660)

on November 28, 2011
at 04:04 AM

As the spouse of a super skeptical physician, I'm amazed at how on top of this the alternative disciplines are. I don't accept all of their practices or theories, but when it comes to dietary stuff, they are light-years ahead. I'm so pissed at all the Western practitioners who've dropped the ball on our health.

13a44ea00b0c9af0b6d0f3d5f5c2cfca

(7223)

on November 28, 2011
at 02:20 AM

Thanks for sharing your experience. I suspected it might be geared more towards beginners. I'll definitely keep it in mind for those who are thinking about trying paleo--especially if they are coming from the SAD.

C2450eb7fa11b37473599caf93b461ef

(3225)

on November 28, 2011
at 01:42 AM

Hi Jac--do you think it'd be a good purchase for my 64 year old arthritic mom who really needs to change her diet but has a closet full of Jenny Craig meals? Seriously... there's very little in her home that isn't shelf-stable.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on November 28, 2011
at 01:21 AM

Geez, why does it either have to be Chinese medicine or conventional medicine? Isn't there a land between that, where things are based on science, but are more open-minded and experimental? Sorry, but Chinese medicine has some awesome stuff that a lot of scientists in China are validating, but its really mixed in with some backwards nonsense. I'm quite enthusiastic about Siberian medicine myself, but I'm careful because I know that I'm not Siberian and that Westerners misinterpret stuff, but also I know that not all the the "ancient medicine" is good.

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on November 28, 2011
at 12:44 AM

Thanks, confirms what I thought. I won't be getting it, then.

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on November 27, 2011
at 09:51 PM

I'm not interested in the meal planner myself, either. In fact, I'm not very interested in food at all (I know this sounds strange to most), but I've found and adapted some pretty amazing recipes (chicken and shrimp gumbo marinated in a spicy cajun sauce mmmmmmm).

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on November 27, 2011
at 09:49 PM

Thanks, that pretty much agrees what I've gathered. I'm kinda in-between on the self-research - ie. I don't want to spend hours and hours on research, but I'd like to get citations and reasoning behind doing something. $97 is a bit steep for which I suspect is a introduction to paleo, which I already have from De Vany's and Robb Wolf's books and online research.

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on November 27, 2011
at 08:30 PM

I think it likely offers a customization that could be especially important for those we often see coming to this site who has less than optimal and sometimes waaaay less than optimal response to the "generalized plan."

Cbb1134f8e93067d1271c97bb2e15ef6

on November 27, 2011
at 08:26 PM

+1 for objective feedback, with whihc I happen to agree. Kresser is one sharp cat.

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on November 27, 2011
at 08:18 PM

I totally agree!

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(7223)

on November 27, 2011
at 07:14 PM

Amen, Jeff. I am so frustrated with my parents' doctors (MDs) recommending statins for not-terribly-high cholesterol levels for both of them and encouraging the use of the very processed carb heavy exchange diet for preventing diabetes (my mom is pre-diabetic). That seems far more dubious to me. If you have a specific problem with something Kresser recommends, I'd be happy to discuss that, but a blanket dismissal is not helpful for anyone.

27361737e33ba2f73ab3c25d2699ad61

(1880)

on November 27, 2011
at 06:03 PM

I'm with Jeff here. One of NY "best" doc surgeons (as listed in NY mag) insisted that I would never be able to straighten my arm without surgery. One acupuncture treatment later (administered by an athletic MD who was also a pain specialist) and my arm was good as new. No problems since. That was 3 years ago.

Medium avatar

(8239)

on November 27, 2011
at 05:42 PM

Any monolithic embrace or monolithic rejection of "integrative medicine" in the name of "science" is propaganda. Now, break down that abstraction into specific elements, and let's talk.

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(15236)

on November 27, 2011
at 02:58 PM

With all due respect Doctor, are you seriously questioning acupuncture and Chinese medicine as a legitimate practice? It may not be perfect but I think they've got a whole lot more right than they have wrong. I've read your blog and you are one of the 'good ones', but I'd suggest the general practices of many MDs are far more dubious.

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(7223)

on November 27, 2011
at 02:38 PM

That's my understanding of the meal planner as well, Wisper. Fortunately that doesn't interest me at all. I enjoy planning my family's meals myself. But, the customization could be valuable if it is pretty in-depth. And, as I said, I've always enjoyed reading his blog posts and listening to his podcasts, but I'm skeptical there is $97 of new information. But, I could be wrong and if so I wouldn't hesitate to sign up.

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on November 27, 2011
at 02:06 PM

I'd be mostly interested in the customizing part. If it's a robust approach based in research rather than my rather slow and off-the-cuff approach, I'm in. The meal planner is extra, 30 days free, then you have to pay $9.95 PER MONTH for subscription AFAIK.

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on November 27, 2011
at 02:03 PM

Those are exactly the reasons why I posed this question.

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on November 27, 2011
at 01:30 PM

I don't have any experience but I would be wary of advertisements like that and things like "30-day money-back" and the promise to "end confusion about what to eat". You can make a lot of money with despaired people who want to find the answer to every problem with food. Don't forget his first aim is to make money if he sells it for 97 $. Though, there is a possibility that his program is indeed helpful so I am also curious for answers to your question.

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(1453)

on November 27, 2011
at 01:29 PM

I don't have any experience but I would be wary of advertisements like that and things like "30-day money-back" and the promise to "end confusion about what to eat". You can make a lot of money with despaired people who want to find the answer to every problem with food. Don't forget his first aim is to make money if he sells it for 97 $.

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(1453)

on November 27, 2011
at 01:28 PM

I don't have any experience but I would be wary of advertisements like that and things like "30-day money-back" and the promise to "end confusion about what to eat". You can make money with the despaired people who want to find the answer to every problem with food.

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96440612cf0fcf366bf5ad8f776fca84

(19463)

on November 27, 2011
at 03:21 PM

Much as I love the guy's work, and would want him to earn a living from it, there are plenty of resources that are totally free, especially paleohacks.com itself, as well as great websites from Robb Wolf, Mark Sisson, as well as their books. While not free, Art De Vany has an awesome site and a great book.

So you can learn everything you need to do it on your own. Chris himself has a great quick and free intro called The 9 Steps to Perfect Health.

So what does that site offer that you couldn't do yourself with some patience and research? To me, it sounds like an expert system, or one of those software wizards that walks you through what you want to do. Note: I've not tried it myself.

I understand, via podcast interviews where he describes it that it also has a meal plan generator, but you can visit ChowStalker or The Foodee Project and get tons and tons of recipes, or download Robb Wolf's excellent Food Matrix (PDF).

It certainly sounds like a great idea for someone who doesn't want to do the research themselves, and just wants a customized plan without the n=1 trials and work, but is it necessary for you? Can you do it yourself instead? In my case, absolutely, since I love to learn and understand, and even all the deep stuff on the Quilt's Blog is fascinating to me.

For someone who doesn't want to know all the geeky details, and just wants something to work without spending much time on it, I suspect Chris's Personal Paleo code is the way to go. But that's not me.

Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

(32564)

on November 27, 2011
at 08:18 PM

I totally agree!

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on November 27, 2011
at 09:49 PM

Thanks, that pretty much agrees what I've gathered. I'm kinda in-between on the self-research - ie. I don't want to spend hours and hours on research, but I'd like to get citations and reasoning behind doing something. $97 is a bit steep for which I suspect is a introduction to paleo, which I already have from De Vany's and Robb Wolf's books and online research.

Cbb1134f8e93067d1271c97bb2e15ef6

on November 27, 2011
at 08:30 PM

I think it likely offers a customization that could be especially important for those we often see coming to this site who has less than optimal and sometimes waaaay less than optimal response to the "generalized plan."

792634a784ec6a636c3137d0903e11b4

(1196)

on November 28, 2011
at 08:54 PM

+1 mem, that's exactly what I saw in it. If I'd had it at the beginning of the year it might have really helped me.

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792634a784ec6a636c3137d0903e11b4

(1196)

on November 28, 2011
at 12:05 AM

I tried it. Its three workbooks are really valuable, and the cheat sheets seem good. However I think his market is the beginner or the easily confused. I don't see a huge difference from Robb Wolf's 30 day 'try it and see' for the first stage, but then later there are lots of tips about how and what to reintroduce, and then finally how to refine to get optimal results.

I found the recipes too complex and/or too American (sorry ;)). I'm already pretty well informed about Paleo, and have done my own reintroduction process this year, so functionality for me was limited. I asked for and got my money back.

C2450eb7fa11b37473599caf93b461ef

(3225)

on November 28, 2011
at 01:42 AM

Hi Jac--do you think it'd be a good purchase for my 64 year old arthritic mom who really needs to change her diet but has a closet full of Jenny Craig meals? Seriously... there's very little in her home that isn't shelf-stable.

792634a784ec6a636c3137d0903e11b4

(1196)

on November 28, 2011
at 08:52 PM

Stacey, Yes I do think it's good for someone like your Mum. I would also recommend it for someone in the place I was at the beginning of the year who is feeling really sick and wanting help to get through that - especially if there are problem foods among the 'usual' paleo fare. It was my own process of elimination that identified all nut and dairy products, an excess of FODMAPS etc. If I'd had the PPC at that point I'd have been a happy camper!

9f54852ea376e8e416356f547611e052

(2957)

on November 28, 2011
at 12:44 AM

Thanks, confirms what I thought. I won't be getting it, then.

13a44ea00b0c9af0b6d0f3d5f5c2cfca

(7223)

on November 28, 2011
at 02:20 AM

Thanks for sharing your experience. I suspected it might be geared more towards beginners. I'll definitely keep it in mind for those who are thinking about trying paleo--especially if they are coming from the SAD.

792634a784ec6a636c3137d0903e11b4

(1196)

on November 28, 2011
at 08:56 PM

I should add that the introduction includes sweeteners like maple syrup etc, and starches - it's really just focused on getting people into whole foods to start with, then refining according to what's needed. It's a good process and achievable for most people - esp not hitting the 'deprivation' button of no sweets and low or VL carb

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072fd69647b0e765bb4b11532569f16d

(3717)

on November 27, 2011
at 01:39 PM

I also don't have personal experience with this product, but I find Kresser to be one of the sharpest folks in the Paleosphere. I think you will find that even those who disagree with his research and positions will agree that he is sharp and well researched.

Cbb1134f8e93067d1271c97bb2e15ef6

on November 27, 2011
at 08:26 PM

+1 for objective feedback, with whihc I happen to agree. Kresser is one sharp cat.

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Cdee7454bccdc4ac14ec23b9657eb573

on November 27, 2011
at 02:41 PM

I'm wary of Kresser because of his identification with acupuncture, integrative medicine, and Chinese medicine. You can read about these dubious "therapies" at Science-Based Medicine: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/

-Steve

27361737e33ba2f73ab3c25d2699ad61

(1880)

on November 27, 2011
at 06:03 PM

I'm with Jeff here. One of NY "best" doc surgeons (as listed in NY mag) insisted that I would never be able to straighten my arm without surgery. One acupuncture treatment later (administered by an athletic MD who was also a pain specialist) and my arm was good as new. No problems since. That was 3 years ago.

F5f742cc9228eb5804114d0f3be4e587

(7660)

on November 28, 2011
at 04:04 AM

As the spouse of a super skeptical physician, I'm amazed at how on top of this the alternative disciplines are. I don't accept all of their practices or theories, but when it comes to dietary stuff, they are light-years ahead. I'm so pissed at all the Western practitioners who've dropped the ball on our health.

Medium avatar

(8239)

on November 27, 2011
at 05:42 PM

Any monolithic embrace or monolithic rejection of "integrative medicine" in the name of "science" is propaganda. Now, break down that abstraction into specific elements, and let's talk.

9d43f6873107e17ca4d1a5055aa7a2ad

on November 28, 2011
at 01:21 AM

Geez, why does it either have to be Chinese medicine or conventional medicine? Isn't there a land between that, where things are based on science, but are more open-minded and experimental? Sorry, but Chinese medicine has some awesome stuff that a lot of scientists in China are validating, but its really mixed in with some backwards nonsense. I'm quite enthusiastic about Siberian medicine myself, but I'm careful because I know that I'm not Siberian and that Westerners misinterpret stuff, but also I know that not all the the "ancient medicine" is good.

Cdee7454bccdc4ac14ec23b9657eb573

(1239)

on November 28, 2011
at 02:12 PM

OK, I'll make it easier for those interested in the science (or lack thereof) behind acupuncture. Just click through and read: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/reference/?p=34 And Chinese medicine: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/reference/?cat=24 And for extra credit, quackademic medicine: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/reference/?cat=15 I'm just saying that if someone tells me they believe in astrology or phrenology, I take everything else they say with a grain of salt. -Steve

64433a05384cd9717c1aa6bf7e98b661

(15236)

on November 27, 2011
at 02:58 PM

With all due respect Doctor, are you seriously questioning acupuncture and Chinese medicine as a legitimate practice? It may not be perfect but I think they've got a whole lot more right than they have wrong. I've read your blog and you are one of the 'good ones', but I'd suggest the general practices of many MDs are far more dubious.

13a44ea00b0c9af0b6d0f3d5f5c2cfca

(7223)

on November 27, 2011
at 07:14 PM

Amen, Jeff. I am so frustrated with my parents' doctors (MDs) recommending statins for not-terribly-high cholesterol levels for both of them and encouraging the use of the very processed carb heavy exchange diet for preventing diabetes (my mom is pre-diabetic). That seems far more dubious to me. If you have a specific problem with something Kresser recommends, I'd be happy to discuss that, but a blanket dismissal is not helpful for anyone.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on November 30, 2011
at 05:19 AM

who funds thwt website??! ebm is Big pharma which i dont trust further than I can throw it.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on November 30, 2011
at 05:33 PM

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org is a great site. You will get down votes if you are critical of the crazy stuff here. Powdered rhino horn and tigers testicles anyone?

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on November 30, 2011
at 05:31 PM

sciencebasedmedicine.com is a great site. You will get down votes if you are critical of the crazy stuff here. Powdered rhino horn and tigers testicles anyone?

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on November 30, 2011
at 05:31 PM

www.sciencebasedmedicine.com is a great site. You will get down votes if you are critical of the crazy stuff here. Powdered rhino horn and tigers testicles anyone?

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on November 30, 2011
at 05:32 PM

www.sciencebasedmedicine.org is a great site. You will get down votes if you are critical of the crazy stuff here. Powdered rhino horn and tigers testicles anyone?

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on November 30, 2011
at 05:16 AM

one downvote Parker.

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on November 30, 2011
at 05:18 AM

I entirely disagree. several pubmed articles and studies show value even thoug western medicine do not explain why it works. one downvote Parker.

0bc6cbb653cdc5e82400f6da920f11eb

(19245)

on November 30, 2011
at 05:32 PM

sciencebasedmedicine.org is a great site. You will get down votes if you are critical of the crazy stuff here. Powdered rhino horn and tigers testicles anyone?

3864f9a2af09b1b447c7963058650a34

(3703)

on December 01, 2011
at 08:55 AM

matthew, u seem so smart and brilliant??!??? except when you spout cw... being contrare seems so... steve parker!!

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on April 08, 2012
at 03:07 AM

Actually Chris does not really pratcie acupuncutre. He practices integrative medicine that's closer to holistic or alternative medicine. His acupuncturist license allows him to write scripts for blood orders and stuff, my understanding is he really doesn't do it. He's an "alternative doctor", someone to turn to when conventional medicine has no answer. Juding him based on his podcasts and his blog, I have more confidence in him than any conventional doctor that I've seen so far.

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on November 27, 2011
at 01:25 PM

I have always liked Kresser's podcasts and blog posts. He's a smart guy and he is willing to change his recommendations when there is new research pointing in a different direction. He was a key factor in my decision to switch to this kind of diet. However, I am always a bit skeptical of stuff like this so I've been waiting to hear from others who've tried it. I don't need someone to plan my meals and there are plenty of place online to "track my progress" if I am so inclined, but I'm always on the lookout for new information. I'm mostly wondering if there is anything new here or if it's pretty much all the same stuff I've already read/listened to just condensed into a more convenient "diet book" package.

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(2957)

on November 27, 2011
at 02:06 PM

I'd be mostly interested in the customizing part. If it's a robust approach based in research rather than my rather slow and off-the-cuff approach, I'm in. The meal planner is extra, 30 days free, then you have to pay $9.95 PER MONTH for subscription AFAIK.

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(7223)

on November 27, 2011
at 02:38 PM

That's my understanding of the meal planner as well, Wisper. Fortunately that doesn't interest me at all. I enjoy planning my family's meals myself. But, the customization could be valuable if it is pretty in-depth. And, as I said, I've always enjoyed reading his blog posts and listening to his podcasts, but I'm skeptical there is $97 of new information. But, I could be wrong and if so I wouldn't hesitate to sign up.

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on November 27, 2011
at 09:51 PM

I'm not interested in the meal planner myself, either. In fact, I'm not very interested in food at all (I know this sounds strange to most), but I've found and adapted some pretty amazing recipes (chicken and shrimp gumbo marinated in a spicy cajun sauce mmmmmmm).

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on April 07, 2012
at 10:37 PM

I purchased the Personal Paleo Code and am COMPLETELY SATISFIED!!!

Before purchasing it, I listened to EVERY ONE of his back podcasts and found him to be measured, reasonable, and credible.

With all the noise out there, you need to find sources of info that you are comfortable with.

The contents of his package pulled in lots of great info into one handy place.

BTW, one think I liked about Kresser is that he gives away lots of good info for free on his podcasts and website.

Some authors when interviewed on www.UndergroundWellness.com are cagey and give you half an answer and say things like: "buy the book".

Kresser reads the studies and digs into the details of important health issues at a level of detail that is amazing, and far greater than I'm capable of.

If he eats saturated fats, I'm comfortable doing it too.

Bottom line: two thumbs up!

Mike

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on November 27, 2011
at 08:20 PM

Careful???questioning one of the 'paleo powers that be' might get you in the doghouse. Anyhow, it looks good so far, a little light on detail. A good guide for beginners. Price is steep.

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on December 17, 2013
at 03:27 AM

@ted_p I found Paleo to be simplistic also and am much more interested in the Weston A. Price philosophy. Much has been written extensively about the science behind it in Sally Fallon's Nourishing Traditions and Jessica Prentiss's Full Moon Feast. There's even more on the Weston A. Price Foundation site. If a person needs more rehabilitative nutrition, GAPS (Gut and Psychology Syndrome Diet) is a version of the WAP philosophy without complex carbohydrates. It is extremely healing and very much like Paleo in it's focus, but has more in-depth information and once you get rolling it is complex enough to tailor to individual needs. One of the main differences between Paleo and WAP is the relative complexity, that probiotic foods are a larger part of the diet and that the eater is required to learn how to cook well, i.e. to make foods digestible through adding appropriately prepared fats, soaking, sprouting, slow-cooking and fermenting.

I was on GAPS for 3.5 years and had excellent improvement, although it took a while to adjust. We are currently gluten-free, mostly grain-free and following Weston A. Price's ideas.

While there is less macho hype about these philosophies (especially since the main writers seem to be less likely to join a Crossfit gym and more likely to be middle-aged women feeding children and curing autism <smile>) I can say from experience that beforehand I had lots of loose joint issues, chronic injuries, and foot problems. The first thing that I noticed was that the fat pads under my feet rebuilt themselves and my injuries healed much more quickly. After 3 years I returned to my dancing and now am a fairly experienced barefoot runner, as well. I feel that in the second half of my 4th decade I am in better shape than in my 20s when chronic injury forced me to stop dancing.

Our 7-year-old daughter has been eating according to this philosophy since she was a year old. She not only recovered from allergic colitis, but has found that many of her allergic reactions have lessened. She is much stronger and sturdier than I was at her age with (knock on wood!) no cavities and completely straight teeth. Most people can't tell from looking at her that she is an "allergic-type" kid.

We also use cod liver oil (not fermented...we couldn't deal with that stuff either!), vitamin D3 drops and strong probiotic supplements.

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on December 17, 2013
at 02:12 AM

I bought Kresser's baby code for my wife about a year and was expecting a very comprehensive guide on nutrition througout pregnancy and was very disappointed with the extremely simplistic narrative that is repeated across all mainstream paleo outlets. I was at one point fanatical about paleolithic nutrition for a couple years and was very well read but could not find a comprehensive set of information about nurtition with a paleo spin during pregnancies. So I bought this almost out of fear of not having the perfect information for my unborn child.

Everything in this series can be summarized in a few articles from Mark Sisson and there is absolutely nothing new to be gathered here if you've done even a cursory amount of research on paleo nutrition. The one suggestion of using fermented cod liver oil (which I had previosuly bought) instantaneously produced vomiting in my pregnant wife the first time she tried it.

Save your money, this product is definitely not worth it and gives virtually no information that is specific for pregnant women. Whats good for pregnant women is what is good for non-pregnant persons. Some helpful information would have been as such: There is a study that did show evidence that 4000 IU of Vitamin D produced the births with least complications. I was looking at more things like this and there was very little of it.

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on May 18, 2012
at 03:06 PM

Glad to hear some positive response. I too am considering the PPC, because I have auto immune AND thyroid issues. It seems like what is good for one is horrible for the other. Mike, do you think this will help me? I am so frustrated and confused.

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on April 07, 2012
at 02:20 AM

I've been eating paleo for the past montH and really love this diet/lifestyle. However, I am a nursing mother and also quite overweight. I am gaining weight very easily, paleo or not. Is the Paleo Code helpful to adapt the diet for weightloss, or is there a better resource out there for that purpose. Thanks!

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on December 21, 2011
at 06:04 AM

I love Chris Kresser's Personal Paleo Code. I would not call myself a beginner, but sometimes it is easy to get confused when one 1. is trying to lose weight, 2. has an autoimmune disease, and 3. wants to discover which foods are tolerated, using an elimination diet. These three things require different aspects of the Paleo diet, and all need to be scheduled and organized so that one does not go nuts.

I love organizing and planning, and so far I have read most of the materials, entered my personal information, and planned a week of meals designed for weight loss and autoimmune disease--including the shopping list. The recipes look fantastic. (My only complaint is that some of the ingredients are expensive, but I will substitute ground beef for the steak in some recipes, and, of course, you can pick and choose among the recipes.) I will be all ready to go when I begin the plan after the holidays. Then I will do three more weeks of such meals, then begin to gradually introduce more foods.

I will let you know how it works out.

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(14)

on December 21, 2011
at 10:13 PM

How can I prove I am not? :)

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on December 21, 2011
at 11:21 AM

First and only comment praising a product - astroturfer unless proven otherwise.

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on January 04, 2012
at 08:02 PM

What is "astroturfer?"

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on August 09, 2012
at 06:21 PM

How did it work out, Janja? For the meal plans, do they have you cooking everyday or can you work it out for a one day cooking marathon?

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