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Excessive Vegetables and Poop

Answered on August 19, 2014
Created April 08, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Is there such a thing as eating too many vegetables? I load my plate with vegetables (and a serving of protein/fat) at every meal in hopes of feeling "full". I find that growing up on pasta and bread makes it difficult for me to control that "I'm still hungry" feeling when I don't eat grains (I realize this is because of a craving and not necessarily hunger). However, I find that sometimes my body isn't even processing the vegetables; they are just passing through whole. Is this a sign that I am eating so many that my body doesn't need the nutrients?

Just curious what others have experienced. I hate to cut down on the veggies, because I'll end up indulging in something unhealthy that will make me feel terrible. Right now Peanut Butter is my only vice (don't judge me! I'm deployed with limited assets!).

Of note, I go after every meal, if not more often.

I'm not looking for advice on how to refine my diet (especially since I have not given much of a breakdown of what my diet looks lik), simply looking for anyone who has information on what might be considered "too many vegetables" or has seen similar from their own veggie intake. I appreciate the advice, but I'm not in a position to take it, and in most cases I won't! :)

7b4641bc7c610f2944da66f79cc3378a

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on October 25, 2012
at 09:13 PM

One can eat salt or salted foods/pickles before lunch or dinner to prepare stomach for protein/fat digestion by stimulating hydrochloric acid production.

E55906cdb6839a23fd740ad85d160cc8

(1159)

on April 17, 2012
at 10:43 PM

Are you taking magnesium? I have the same thing happen when I've taken MOM or that hot fizzy one...Natural Calm. I can't even take the smallest dose of that. Salad Shooter.

C7fa1bf712d466cf7e9f2a404d5f0e34

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on April 10, 2012
at 02:29 AM

Park&Sherbrooke doesn't have it. I'll use Kijiji once these brutal exams are done...

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

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on April 09, 2012
at 10:57 PM

Heck nick- I would try "couffin bio" on the corner of Avenue de Parc and Sherbrooke, or maybe that organic food store that's in the same underground-mall as Metro and the pharmacy/post office. I scoured Jean Talon, no luck. I brought some kefir from home, but I ran out :( and my boyfriend threw the last bit out!

2870a69b9c0c0a19a919e54cb3a62137

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on April 09, 2012
at 01:48 PM

Well you got the right answer, what you do with it is your thing. Just don't expect a better alternative.

C7fa1bf712d466cf7e9f2a404d5f0e34

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on April 09, 2012
at 01:13 PM

Jenny J - I clicked through to your profile and see that you also live in MTL and go to McGill. I've been looking for kefir grains for a while. Do you know where I can find any? There's some on Kijiji but they live pretty far from me.

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on April 09, 2012
at 09:07 AM

Have you double-checked with the doc there to get screened for things like e-coli, salmonella, water-borne illnesses, and/or parasites? All of those can cause food to pass through you faster than expected.

695d450f25e1e5f4eba82c615206cc5a

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on April 09, 2012
at 07:39 AM

thanks, I may start including a little potato when I can get it. I try to avoid the rice out here, it's usually fried and loaded with stuff!

695d450f25e1e5f4eba82c615206cc5a

(189)

on April 09, 2012
at 07:38 AM

I realize to all of you that seems like a LOT of water, but I am in the desert and I dehydrate REALLY easy. I don't have bloating, indigestion, or gas. No painful or what seem to me like excessive bowel movements, just pass some whole veggies.

695d450f25e1e5f4eba82c615206cc5a

(189)

on April 09, 2012
at 07:35 AM

I don't have issues with bloating or gas or anything. And I have no control over the cooking style of anything.

695d450f25e1e5f4eba82c615206cc5a

(189)

on April 09, 2012
at 07:34 AM

I do get the "vegetable mush" when they have something other than peas and corn. The protein I use is pretty pure too, I've been sure to avoid anything with too many additives!

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on April 09, 2012
at 02:44 AM

Wow, you really are diluting your digestive enzymes and acids. Also, raw veg is really hard to digest as it is. I'll bet you get some bloating, indigestion, or at least wicked gas too.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on April 09, 2012
at 12:43 AM

Rene, I would say that that amount of liquid is not helping your situation. 12 ounces with meal and before!? Why not just do the one before and then eat without? Even that is a bit much I'd say. You don't think you're diluting your stomach acid and thus compromising your digestion?

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on April 08, 2012
at 11:09 PM

Try adding fiber like coconut flakes or cacao nibs/100% dark chocolate in addition to carbs like sweet potatoes. It sounds like your body needs something more.

695d450f25e1e5f4eba82c615206cc5a

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on April 08, 2012
at 06:20 PM

I eat way too much fat already and am working on coming down a bit on my fat levels (which is finally allowing me to drop some weight). I get plenty of protein... meals plus protein shakes several times a day. Eating less vegetables doesn't make sense to me, plus I will be hungry.

695d450f25e1e5f4eba82c615206cc5a

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on April 08, 2012
at 06:18 PM

that's all well and good for people who have the option to cook for themselves. I, on the other hand, can only eat what is provided in our dining facility, so i fill up on raw veggies. I also drink about 24 ounces of water and a cup of tea with every meal -- 12 ounces before, 12 during/after, and the tea after, to help feel full. I also chew a lot since I eat mostly raw.

2870a69b9c0c0a19a919e54cb3a62137

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on April 08, 2012
at 04:40 PM

"Is this a sign that I am eating so many that my body doesn't need the nutrients?" - No, it's a sign your body can't digest that food. We can't digest cellulose. Cook vegetables and follow Ferti's advice.

2870a69b9c0c0a19a919e54cb3a62137

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on April 08, 2012
at 04:39 PM

"Is this a sign that I am eating so many that my body doesn't need the nutrients?" - No, it's a sign your body can't digest that food. We can't digest cellulose, which constitues plant cells. Cook vegetables and follow Ferti's advice.

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on April 08, 2012
at 01:08 PM

Have you tried adding fermented veggies to your daily food intake? Kind of sounds like you lack the right bacteria to break down the vegetables.

667f6c030b0245d71d8ef50c72b097dc

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on April 08, 2012
at 12:55 PM

how well do you chew your food? I find that most of us americans just simply do not chew our food well. This, combined with excessive water-intake while eating, I feel leads to poorer digestion. So, maybe chew your food very well (until it's liquified in your mouth), and don't drink much or any cold water while eating.

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Ce41c230e8c2a4295db31aec3ef4b2ab

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on April 08, 2012
at 11:43 PM

Sounds like you aren't digesting your food & extracting the nutrients, so it makes sense that you feel hungry all the time.

By drinking so much at meals you are diluting your stomach acids and making it even harder to start digesting your food properly. Many folks suggest drinking only 3-4 oz of liquids with meals.

Try eating more fat & protein at your meals & ease off the protein shakes & you will still lose your body fat.

7b4641bc7c610f2944da66f79cc3378a

(298)

on October 25, 2012
at 09:13 PM

One can eat salt or salted foods/pickles before lunch or dinner to prepare stomach for protein/fat digestion by stimulating hydrochloric acid production.

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518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on April 09, 2012
at 01:39 AM

Cook your veggies more thoroughly to help make it easier to digest. Drink water throughout the day so you don't need to drink so much during meals (just little sips). Chew WELL. Eat slowly (so you're not swallowing air and getting too much gas up in there).

I personally eat loads of veggies (4 cups for breakfast typically), but if it isn't cooked enough I look like I am pregnant just a few hours later. Blanch greens before frying them, steam instead of just baking it until it's kind of tender. Those two help me a lot.

695d450f25e1e5f4eba82c615206cc5a

(189)

on April 09, 2012
at 07:35 AM

I don't have issues with bloating or gas or anything. And I have no control over the cooking style of anything.

518bce04b12cd77741237e1f61075194

(11577)

on April 09, 2012
at 10:57 PM

Heck nick- I would try "couffin bio" on the corner of Avenue de Parc and Sherbrooke, or maybe that organic food store that's in the same underground-mall as Metro and the pharmacy/post office. I scoured Jean Talon, no luck. I brought some kefir from home, but I ran out :( and my boyfriend threw the last bit out!

C7fa1bf712d466cf7e9f2a404d5f0e34

(40)

on April 09, 2012
at 01:13 PM

Jenny J - I clicked through to your profile and see that you also live in MTL and go to McGill. I've been looking for kefir grains for a while. Do you know where I can find any? There's some on Kijiji but they live pretty far from me.

C7fa1bf712d466cf7e9f2a404d5f0e34

(40)

on April 10, 2012
at 02:29 AM

Park&Sherbrooke doesn't have it. I'll use Kijiji once these brutal exams are done...

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C53665c3f012fa1ede91033b08a8a6e7

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on April 08, 2012
at 10:53 PM

Your body is trying to tell you something: "stop gobbling down things that relatively low nutritional value or else I'll just eject it as quickly as possible" :-) or something like that.

If I eat more than a small salad or small sweet potato with dinner I'm unpleasantly reminded the next day that fiber is better for cows than humans.

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32f5749fa6cf7adbeb0b0b031ba82b46

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on April 09, 2012
at 12:01 PM

It's possible you just have a faster GI tract than average. My veggies, too, are poorly digested. Particularly if I eat them late in the day, as everything clears out at the same time everyday for me.

You'd be hard-pressed to eat too much vegetable matter on a paleo diet, always bothers me that everybody's answer is perpetually: eat more fat and protein. Paleo is not just some high fat, meat-dominated diet.

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D291fa0ee09423d56db58cd6fded1b85

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on April 08, 2012
at 02:28 PM

Eat more meat, more fat, less vegetables.

695d450f25e1e5f4eba82c615206cc5a

(189)

on April 08, 2012
at 06:20 PM

I eat way too much fat already and am working on coming down a bit on my fat levels (which is finally allowing me to drop some weight). I get plenty of protein... meals plus protein shakes several times a day. Eating less vegetables doesn't make sense to me, plus I will be hungry.

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32c599220cfbc3e5bfd44137ec95238e

on April 17, 2012
at 10:27 PM

I'm going to say what i have yet to read from anyone else, Pooping it healthy! Somewhere along the line people got the idea that its wrong to go to the bathroom often, but the truth is that not going often is bad for you. I have had multiple abdominal surgeries that have made it so that I have no choice but to go constantly. While it is annoying it is also healthy to get rid of the waste that builds up in our bodies.

I had my gallbladder removed and know that is part of the reason that I can be a "salad shooter" for lack of a better term, but it doesn't mean that you are eating too many veggies, or that your drinking too much water, it just means that your body's not breaking down each and every bite!

As long as you feel fine and healthy then I don't know why you should worry. As I said, its annoying but unless you think you have developed a build up of candida, or have chrones, you should be good to go, and go, and go

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on April 09, 2012
at 04:35 PM

I know you didn't want advice, but I'm a fixer...

It sounds to me like you need to do some tweaking to eliminate possible "intolerance" foods. If you have undigested veggies making their way through, then there's something about problematical with either the food or your digestion. Everyone's body is different: there might a couple of vegetables that your system just can't handle, or you may have an underlying problem with your gut flora that is trying to make itself known.

(Also, I'm not sure I buy into the water/stomach acid thing. I haven't actually done the math, but between the stomach being a buffered system and pH being a logarithmic scale, I think you'd have to drink a truly stupefying amount of water to budge the stomach pH into the "ineffective" range.)

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6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

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on April 09, 2012
at 06:22 AM

Do you have access to starch like potatoes or sweet potatoes if only to act as a binder? Having to crap that much per day would put me off of raw veggies all together. Aren't there usually steamed vegetables served at meal times too? A few veggies to avoid raw are cauliflower, broccoli, and mushrooms if you are having digestive issues. If you are eating that much veggie matter, you could safely cut back on the water a bit too.

If starch seems scary during weight loss, check out the Perfect Health Diet, some people actually do better with a bit of it. Rice might be okay for you too, if you are really craving grain.

I'm wondering about the ingredients in the protein shakes, many have sugar alcohols to keep the carb count low, and those have a pretty strong laxative effect.

Good luck, it is hard enough to dial in the right diet when you have control over your food supply, I can't imagine doing this through industrial food channels.

695d450f25e1e5f4eba82c615206cc5a

(189)

on April 09, 2012
at 07:34 AM

I do get the "vegetable mush" when they have something other than peas and corn. The protein I use is pretty pure too, I've been sure to avoid anything with too many additives!

695d450f25e1e5f4eba82c615206cc5a

(189)

on April 09, 2012
at 07:39 AM

thanks, I may start including a little potato when I can get it. I try to avoid the rice out here, it's usually fried and loaded with stuff!

6120c989fd5b69f42a0834b69b87955b

(24553)

on April 09, 2012
at 09:07 AM

Have you double-checked with the doc there to get screened for things like e-coli, salmonella, water-borne illnesses, and/or parasites? All of those can cause food to pass through you faster than expected.

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on April 08, 2012
at 02:34 PM

I don't know about the digestion aspect but I say give it time. I found that, with time, I adapted and feel full for longer on less food.

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on October 25, 2012
at 08:10 PM

You don't need to cook your food and you certainly dont need to eat more meat and fat. There is also no such thing as too many veggies, it's impossible. You will also not "dilute" your stomach acid and keep yourself from digesting properly. My suggestion would be to get off this board and ask such questions of people who know what they are talking about.

Say no to the bro (bro science that is).

Good luck

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