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Does anyone feel awkward going in a store and buying bland items

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Created July 10, 2012 at 12:32 AM

such as tubers/vegetables. I may have phrased the question wrongly, but if a true hunter gatherer entered a supermarket and had to select from natural items he'd have a very strong inclination toward very large amounts of honey and sweet fruits. He might look at you strangely if he knew you were trying to mimic his sustenance diet

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on July 23, 2012
at 10:34 PM

I think he would go straight for the meats

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on July 23, 2012
at 10:31 PM

For a bad cook, everything tastes bland

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on July 10, 2012
at 06:45 PM

No one goes and eats something because it's rare. It's because it tastes best, starch (tubers/vegetables) had to be adapted to turn into glucose by amylase. Sweet fruit does not.

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on July 10, 2012
at 03:36 PM

Actually my comment is not out of context, you asked about a primitive man going for the sweetest foods

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on July 10, 2012
at 02:29 PM

I never drive to the grocery store, though.

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on July 10, 2012
at 12:55 PM

BULLSEYE on all counts!

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on July 10, 2012
at 06:47 AM

The whole working out thing only adds to my point further. Paleo man would wonder why you're intentionally trying to induce something they spend their time trying to avoid. I will often feel awkward lifting weights, like looking at myself from the perspective i just mentioned and realizing that im arbitrarily moving weight back and forth. whats more is i drove to a location and prepared for this

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on July 10, 2012
at 06:40 AM

lol Alvaro jumped at the opportunity to make the typical paleo argument out of context

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on July 10, 2012
at 03:16 AM

Greensun, never in history did carb intake has been as high as today, it's almost impossible to consume 300-400 gr. in one day out of plants and animals

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on July 10, 2012
at 02:47 AM

carbs =/= high carbs. How long do you think it would take a person to gather the 300+ grams of carbs that a modern American eats?

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on July 10, 2012
at 02:43 AM

drink many natty lights before posting?

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on July 10, 2012
at 02:21 AM

Sarcasm? If not, I struggle with this feeling a lot. I am not a fan of pride. I know many people truly believe they're making healthy choices and that I'm fortunate to have come across paleo, to understand biochem, and to feel comfortable challenging "experts."

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on July 10, 2012
at 02:19 AM

^ Until around that time we developed higher intelligence, that is.

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on July 10, 2012
at 02:05 AM

I don't think I've gone quite that far, but I've caught myself looking at obese folks and thinking "If only that person were to discover Robb Wolf or Mark Sisson or Art De Vany's book, they'd be so hawt..." Oh well.

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on July 10, 2012
at 01:19 AM

lol this is exactly how I feel. I always am waiting for the cashier or people in line with me ogling my dietary choices and commenting on how healthy I eat. Sadly enough, I don't believe I've gotten this once. (I did get it all the time when I was a vegan and juiced a lot*PRODUCEOUTTHEWAZOO*). Now I just get cashiers having to the look up the PLU #s for much of my produce in their books. So all I can think is that all that red meat, boxes of lard, and 2 pounds of butter sprinkled throughout the foliage must throw people off

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It depends on location. But plant foods were and have always been the basis of most of human diets throughout history. plants= carbs

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huh............

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on July 10, 2012
at 12:38 AM

No, I feel really smug and elitist when I'm shopping because my healthy food choices make me think that I'm better than all those sickly sheeple.

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on July 10, 2012
at 02:05 AM

I don't think I've gone quite that far, but I've caught myself looking at obese folks and thinking "If only that person were to discover Robb Wolf or Mark Sisson or Art De Vany's book, they'd be so hawt..." Oh well.

1296f5fecd084f101d7c5fbe013f07eb

(1213)

on July 10, 2012
at 02:21 AM

Sarcasm? If not, I struggle with this feeling a lot. I am not a fan of pride. I know many people truly believe they're making healthy choices and that I'm fortunate to have come across paleo, to understand biochem, and to feel comfortable challenging "experts."

1955b5516a3eaedce732f4ea8bb3fa6c

on July 10, 2012
at 01:19 AM

lol this is exactly how I feel. I always am waiting for the cashier or people in line with me ogling my dietary choices and commenting on how healthy I eat. Sadly enough, I don't believe I've gotten this once. (I did get it all the time when I was a vegan and juiced a lot*PRODUCEOUTTHEWAZOO*). Now I just get cashiers having to the look up the PLU #s for much of my produce in their books. So all I can think is that all that red meat, boxes of lard, and 2 pounds of butter sprinkled throughout the foliage must throw people off

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on July 10, 2012
at 02:20 AM

I dispute the premise of your question. A hunter gatherer may get honey and fruit the first time he goes to a supermarket because those are pretty hard for him to get normally (at least the honey), but after eating only the "candy" for a day, what do you think he'd buy the next day? Probably "bland" stuff he's used to eating so he could get a decent meal.

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on July 10, 2012
at 02:03 AM

"OMG!!! What Will the Neighbors Think!" Seriously, let go of that mentality. Do what you want and need to do. It's your health, not some idealized Geico Commercial Caveman's view of what you should do.

Measure your success by how what you do affects your health, not how you fear are being judged by others, even when "others" are idealized archetypes, which of course don't have any grounding in reality.

IMHO, if cavemen were to find supermarkets, in less than a year, they'd be dumb, obese, and inflicted by some disease of modern civilization such as diabetes. Our ancestors weren't healthy because they chose to be, they were healthy because they had no choice but to be healthy. Anything they could have done to damage that ended in a swift, unforgiving painful death.

We're far removed from tooth and claw forms of survival, and many of us are alive today that wouldn't be fit to survive back 20ky ago - I'm not saying that's a bad thing at all. Technology is wonderful and I wouldn't give it up, but there's no innate "wisdom" to a hunter gatherer that we lack - it's all learned. We just learned things that are more appropriate to a modern lifestyle, but also things that are detrimental to it. Our ancestors learned to survive in a very different environment and were well adapted to it, or they died off.

To truly answer your question, I find things like bison meat and even beef very bland. Ditto other meats. Unless I used seasonings such as dried oregano, salt, A1, tabasco sauce, and perhaps ghee to flavor them, they are tasty and satisfying, but not hyper palatable. It took me a long time to appreciate the true flavor of the meat.

Hyperpalatability is a new thing that wasn't available until recently. Sure, grassfed beef tastes better than CAFO beef, and its flavor is more intense, but gram for gram, a bag of Doritos is far more flavorful - the MSG, salt, corn syrup, and who knows what else hiding under "natural and artificial" flavors are all very addictive. Mind you, I wouldn't eat that stuff anymore, but just pointing out that as ex-SAD eaters, we've been trained to expect insane flavor.

So, no, I don't think a hunter gatherer would find a sweet potato bland. But introduce them to Doritos or other crap-in-a-bag, and they'll become instant addicts, willing to sell their children into slavery, just to get another hit.

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on July 10, 2012
at 12:55 PM

BULLSEYE on all counts!

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on July 10, 2012
at 01:45 AM

I wouldn't call it bland, I'd call it healthy! :) actually I feel really good when I'm walking through a store with a trolley full of Paleo - I remember the looks of horror I get, and I giggle to myself trying to work out what they're thinking. "Are these people VAMPIRES?!" "She's fat and she's eating healthy... IS THERE SOMETHING I AM MISSING HERE? grabs a loaf of bread and runs off to the gym" I've only just started Paleo for weight loss, so I'm still ginormous. It confuses their poor brains.

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on July 10, 2012
at 01:28 AM

I think the food I buy is highly flavorful. Sweet potatoes are sweet and yummy. Red bell peppers and onions make everything taste great. Liver is extra flavorful meat. Steak is almost the best thing you can eat, although sometimes chicken and pork are even better. And salmon? Oh yum! A hunter gatherer would only laugh at me for PAYING for this stuff rather than just going out and getting it.

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on July 10, 2012
at 03:44 AM

So last week I was at the Wholefoods and I got the smoked short ribs. I had a plate with 1.5 lbs short ribs and another plate with Steamed veggies and a few blueberries and blackberries. I am then sitting in the cafe area about to start eating, most everyone else has tofu or vegan salads. A large guy comes up to me and says my meal looks tasty, looks like something Fred Flintstone would eat. I laughed my ass off. BTW, I have 5% body fat, and very muscular....eating Paleo works!

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on July 10, 2012
at 06:47 AM

The whole working out thing only adds to my point further. Paleo man would wonder why you're intentionally trying to induce something they spend their time trying to avoid. I will often feel awkward lifting weights, like looking at myself from the perspective i just mentioned and realizing that im arbitrarily moving weight back and forth. whats more is i drove to a location and prepared for this

C45d7e96acd83d3a6f58193dbc140e86

on July 10, 2012
at 02:29 PM

I never drive to the grocery store, though.

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on July 10, 2012
at 12:53 AM

Abundance of high carb foods, has never been part of the Human diet, until recently

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on July 10, 2012
at 03:36 PM

Actually my comment is not out of context, you asked about a primitive man going for the sweetest foods

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on July 10, 2012
at 03:16 AM

Greensun, never in history did carb intake has been as high as today, it's almost impossible to consume 300-400 gr. in one day out of plants and animals

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on July 10, 2012
at 02:19 AM

^ Until around that time we developed higher intelligence, that is.

E8c2167284f0cdd16a12bea2741975b4

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on July 10, 2012
at 01:18 AM

It depends on location. But plant foods were and have always been the basis of most of human diets throughout history. plants= carbs

4ec0fe4b4aab327f7efa2dfb06b032ff

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on July 10, 2012
at 02:47 AM

carbs =/= high carbs. How long do you think it would take a person to gather the 300+ grams of carbs that a modern American eats?

E8c2167284f0cdd16a12bea2741975b4

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on July 10, 2012
at 06:40 AM

lol Alvaro jumped at the opportunity to make the typical paleo argument out of context

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on July 10, 2012
at 05:15 PM

Nope, I have a boat load of spices and I make my food taste awesome!

I always look at what I buy and feel like I'm pretty healthy, and other people comment on it as well. I'm always kinda of awkward, and I'm super okay with it. According to my mom, I've been doing my own thing since I was born.

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on July 10, 2012
at 12:52 PM

Paleolithic man would have steered toward the uber-sweet, uber-salty, and supremely hyperpalatable foods because they were such a rarity in his time. (If they existed at all.) The problem now is, they're not rare. They're everywhere, so we almost have to go out of our way not to buy them, and to intentionally buy real foods.

At first, they seem bland, but once you wean your palate off the crap foods and addictive additives & "flavor enhancers," you find that cherry tomatoes in the height of summer are as sweet as raspberries! And raw red, yellow, and orange bell peppers taste like candy. (Good candy.)

So, no, I don't feel weird buying "bland foods," because to me, they're not bland at all.

E8c2167284f0cdd16a12bea2741975b4

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on July 10, 2012
at 06:45 PM

No one goes and eats something because it's rare. It's because it tastes best, starch (tubers/vegetables) had to be adapted to turn into glucose by amylase. Sweet fruit does not.

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on July 10, 2012
at 12:45 PM

How are sweet potatoes bland?

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on July 10, 2012
at 02:52 AM

If a caveman walked into a grocery store, he or she would probably eat everything in sight.

They would probably be stuffed by the time they reached the honey. That or they would be in shock at the sight of so much food and would be marveling at the abundance of it all.

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on July 23, 2012
at 10:34 PM

I think he would go straight for the meats

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on July 10, 2012
at 02:47 AM

LOL, I ordered 26 half lb Boars Head Cap Off Low Sodium Roast beef packages at the Publix deli the other day, when I came back to get them all the guys in line were jealous and the women were like woah, wtf. Standing at 5'9, 178 lbs and 7-8% bodyfat with my Punisher Infantry Shirt on and shorts, did I feel awkward??? I felt like a damn rock star.

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on July 10, 2012
at 12:35 AM

Sometimes.

However, I plan on doing my own shopping (for most of these same items) when I'm 90. I also won't ever use one of the motorized carts that are usually occupied by morbidly obese individuals who are in their 40's, driving them down the breakfast aisle buying "fiber healthy grain" cereal.

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